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  • #14844

    Cole

    , you keep saying that you’re fully healed and it has nothing to do with hormones or anything. That your brain has to repair itself and then you started talking about some kind of pelvic exercise? Not following well there.

    What’s your solutions. Clarify and explain please.

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    #14845

    Sherman

    the concept POIS dosnt seem to be getting is that there are all sorts of people on this forum with 50 diffrent versions of SE or sexual related problems.

    Its totally possible that in his case all he had was fucked up pelvic muscles or whatever that caused his problems and by doing whatever it was he did he was able to reach a satisfactory level of sexual funciton.

    But if thats the case then he is without a doubt in the minority on this forum.

    If you have eyefloaters, depresion, mood swings, anxiety, premature ejacuaiton, precum leakage, fatigue, then you have a biochemical reason for your problems. fixing your pelvic floor will do absoltly nothing for that. at the best minimal effects.

    It is possible that you can have both biochemical and pelvic floor dysfunction. Its possibly frenchi has this. either way in this case your job is to fix the most important problem the biochemical reasons in the hopes it helps your body resolve its issues. If not then you can do secondary therapies to resolve it. Its all very individual.

    I literally know for fact that I have nothing wrong with my pelvic floor. I actually had it checked by urologist by pure luck not to mention I dont have any of the symptoms the people in this thread describe.

    So by POIS saying shit like peopel are afraid to accept this and do this blah blah blah hes just saying how ridicolously ignorant he is.

    #14846

    Jake

    I say that the hormone imbalances come after the core problems.

    Pelvic excercise? Are excercises which try to shut off unconscious clenching called pelvic excercises? Is relaxing a certain part really an excercise? Isn’t it an anti-excercise actually? See where I’m getting?

    To clarify. I’ve got rid of my problems through 1. learning to get aroused the old way 2. learn to feel your pelvic regions 3. learn certain very easy relaxing procedures (like when you pee you remember the feeling of you “letting the pee” flow out and doing that throughout the day.. if you do it right it tremendously almost the whole pelvic area.. sort of like reverse kegel but not pushing.. just relaxing” 4. learn proper orgasming method

    therefore the video is in the making.. but it will not give you explanation since the science is not complete on this and it’ll take a while to explain the main interactions that happen

    #14847

    Harley

    If a depression causes hormonal imbalances which cause certain symptoms, will solving the hormonal imbalances solve the depression??

    If an orgasm causes “a temporary decrease in the metabolic activity of large parts of the cerebral cortex with normal or increased metabolic activity in the limbic areas of the brain” + prolactin secretion (spike in the prolactin levels) + testosterone changes does it mean you have “hormonal imbalances” ???

    If an certain person’s brain process causes nervous clenching which overtime totally corrupted the autonomous procedures happening during sexual activity and triggers an abnormal orgasm which triggers abnormal brain activity, abnormal hormonal levels and even more clenching will not having the nervous clenching solve the problems?

    See my way of thinking?? This kind of thinking was secondary in my case.. first I had the results, then I started thinking why I do have these results.

    #14848

    Steven

    That’s a good one, my friend.

    #14849

    Rolland

    , for me laying down doesn’t change anything.

    Last night I got really high, which improved flaccid hang pretty quickly.. then I took 2 tylenols later on. Within half an hour hang/tension/everything was nearly perfect. I tried to consciously feel out pelvic floor muscles while I got control over them but couldn’t tell the difference in tension between then and before. Jerked off later.. after I busted THEN I could feel the pelvic floor muscles tighten up again.

    So again impossible to tell if weed + tylenol only affected pelvic floor or also tweaked around hormones.

    Today practically no brain fog. If Tylenol wasn’t that bad for liver I’d be on it everyday.

    #14850

    Dominic

    forgot to add that everyone with hard flaccid should try tylenol + mary j + deep breathing and whatever you want to add and see what happens. It should release pelvic floor muscles for sure.

    “there are all sorts of people on this forum with 50 diffrent versions of SE or sexual related problems. ”

    Yea exactly.

    I never used to clench anything while urinating. Never had arousal problems and still don’t. I get all the symptoms POIS is describing but don’t really experience them.. so maybe I have an entirely different condition.

    #14851

    Cliff

    If a depression causes hormonal imbalances which cause certain symptoms, will solving the hormonal imbalances solve the depression??

    If an orgasm causes “a temporary decrease in the metabolic activity of large parts of the cerebral cortex with normal or increased metabolic activity in the limbic areas of the brain” + prolactin secretion (spike in the prolactin levels) + testosterone changes does it mean you have “hormonal imbalances” ???

    If an certain person’s brain process causes nervous clenching which overtime totally corrupted the autonomous procedures happening during sexual activity and triggers an abnormal orgasm which triggers abnormal brain activity, abnormal hormonal levels and even more clenching will not having the nervous clenching solve the problems?

    See my way of thinking?? This kind of thinking was secondary in my case.. first I had the results, then I started thinking why I do have these results.

    My depresion isnt even neccasrily caused by my hormonal though they play a small part.

    My mild depresion, mood swings , ADD are a a result of my terri ble neurotransmitters which i have checked twice and both times every single neuro meausured came back well below range.

    I did not get fried neuros from clenching during masterbation, shitting, or peeing.

    I got it from overmasterbation and drug use.

    In order for ME to have any chance to fix my autonomic nervous system which is core problem for the vast majority of the people on this forum.

    I need to have optimal hormonal levels and then optimal neurotransmitters levels. I could practice everything you and could mention and it would do very little for me.

    Its totally possible that your case wasnt as severe as mine. It is indeed possible that all you had was a learned habit of clenching that you had to unlearn by the therapies you mention.

    Its just foolish of you to offer your solution to this problem because if indeed your problem only consisted of clenching then you indeed make up a very small majority of the people on this forum.

    the vast majority of the people on this forum come with severe biochemical imbalances that need to be dealt with.

    If that dosnt resolve there problems fully then sure they sould by all means try all secondary therapies to improve their function. I sure plan on doing it once I get to that point.

    Also I have plenty of results that have completly convinced me that I first and foremost need to deal with my biochemical issues. Iv meantioned them a ridicolous amount of times but whatever dosnt matter. Your gona do you and im gona do me.

    Good luck. Looking forward to your video.

    #14852

    Shon

    Time will tell. It will obviously take years before people realize they all have the same exact problem – clenching orgasms – which probably totally disrupt the brain’s normal functioning and in the end create imbalances and a myriad of other troubling symptoms.

    My work is done here.

    #14853

    Tomas

    I’m on board with this. How many times can your penis prank call your CNS before the CNS just stops picking up the phone?

    Maybe “clenching” is the wrong word. I think clenching is the eternal, multi-layer-deep rats nets of muscles that are all intertwined 24/7 that I don’t even feel any more. I think the ejaculation misfire is more of a “flex”.

    And I’ve probably got my fair share of problems greater than clenching anyway. Just got back from the endo’s office. They me a script for blood work and a psychiatrist. I won’t deny, I could use some serious unraveling but I’m not taking any more drugs until I know my current test results. Don’t want to add more logs on this fire. Now I need to go decompress. Went to the ER this morning because I lost functionality of my BC muscles. Today sucked pretty hard.

    #14854

    Malik

    I don’t know if this method will work, don’t seem to apply to me. Some people can’t even have orgasms anymore and some people’s systems are so weak that it takes over two months of no sexual activities before they see their body start to recharge a little. After sexual activity without an orgasm, the body becomes weaker. The original sexual exhaustion theory is more accurate.

    #14855

    Manuel

    Time will tell. It will obviously take years before people realize they all have the same exact problem – clenching orgasms – which probably totally disrupt the brain’s normal functioning and in the end create imbalances and a myriad of other troubling symptoms.

    My work is done here.

    Im sorry but that is actually HILARIOUS

    #14856

    Ryan

    If your problems go away after abstination (1,2 or even 3 weeks) you know your system is strong enough. If your problems are restarted by an orgasm you know there is something with the trigger mechanism. Maybe one day you’ll give it a go. I’ll make sure the vid will be online all the time. It’s a sign of my gratitude because without reading the forums for all of these years I might never had the inspiration to try this approach.

    Normal orgasms are interesting.. no bad sideffects.. just feeling relaxed, sleepy but a bit… hollow.. sort of like something took a piece of my soul… so there IS something negative even with normal functioning body.. but it’s more psychical than physical. When i wake up the next day the part of soul that felt “hollow” is ok again. Heh… but oh man does sex without condom feel great again!!!! eternal delight!!

    #14857

    Elton

    Once again the main issue is that this forum consists of

    1) people with SE/POIS ( the two are interwined to some degree)

    2) people with hard flacid

    3) People with both Both SE, hard flacid

    4) People with just pelvic floor dysfunction

    5) People with SE, Pelvic floor dysfunction, , hard flacid

    6) as well as other cases

    POIS treatment would only apply to a small percentage of people on this forum. Great for them. the vast majority of us dont fall into that category.

    the theory of clenching causes hormonal and neurotransmitter imbalances is actually one of the funniest theories iv seen yet on this forum.

    I can guarentee you that the people who have the general more common version of SE such as you and me know we have biochemical deficinescies.

    iv actually seen you post on some social anxiety forums ( im assuming it was you actually ) . If this is indeed you then you probably an identical situtation to me . im assuimging aside for anxiety you also have eyefloaters, premature ejaculation, depresion, mood swings?

    You sould defiently run a neurotransmitter test would love to compare results.

    #14858

    Elisha

    Actually this forum consists of people who:

    1. Problems dissapear after abstination and reappear after orgasm

    ……

    that’s all.. nothing else… all is a variation of a corrupt orgasm procedure that effs up everything.

    And… I have LOADS of eyefloaters (it pisses me off) from SE/POIS times… I had SE/POIS/Pelvic floor dysfunction and maybe some hard flaccid but since my penis is 7,8 inches long I never really cared if it is hard, turtles or etc (not bragging but just stating.. it never bothered me how “small” it looked).

    #14859

    Enoch

    ,

    You’re correct that is me. I have all minus the eye floaters. In my researches I cover a lot beyond sexual exhaustion and social anxiety is one of them. Only problem with me right now is I’m so unmotivated and struggling with the final semester of college. I need to get these out of the way before I can continue with my work. This semester has been a killing.

    #14860

    Phil

    1. Problems dissapear after abstination and reappear after orgasm

    Whose problems have disapeared after abstination???!?!?!?!?!? I havnt encountered a single person yet would apreciate a reference.

    If you have eyefloaters then you are far from healed. Just cuse your dick works better does not mean you are healed from sexual exhaustion.

    If that was considered healed id be healed along time again. theres alot more to this then just getting your dick hard.

    I love how healed is considered ” as long as I abstain im healed but then I ejacualte and all my symptoms return” . I just dont get it do you guys really want to go through your life like that.

    whatever dude if your satisfied with your sexual function congrats. But just the fact that you eyefloaters still just shows you accomplished very little…im glad your dick gets hard mine does to

    pelvic floor dysfunction causing hormonal biochemical imbalances thats to funny man thanks for that.

    #14861

    Brooks

    In speaking with YUHU he told me had alot of social anxiety as well. SE and social anxiety go hand in hand. He just like me and you studied the social anxiety websites all the time to.

    Once he balanched his nueros and hormones he said there was a huge improvement in sociability, confidence, and general outlook.

    Though I wouldnt say I have social anxiety. But Iam defiently more anxious and unconfident then I used to be around people. On my few weeks of amino acid therapy I saw huge results in this area. It was like for 6 weeks I was able to be the old funny care free me.

    Dont give up man your what like 23 years old? I know this shit is fucking ridicolous but you have like 60 years ahead of you. If you go through them sexualy exhausted it would probably better to just blow your brains out. Thats my view on it anyway.

    I just had my phone consultation with dr. Mariano and theres no doubt in my mind theres a way out of this mess. Its just a matter of figuring out how to put your body back together.

    #14862

    Terence

    That may be true for a lot of people but not me either. Like I mentioned earlier some days I’d ejaculate and I’d actually have better hang next day. I wouldn’t say mood is better, but sometimes its not worse at least. And when I’m abstaining, generally yea symptoms slowly dissapear, but sometimes I’d wake up and hard flaccid would be worse than the day before. So its totally random.. I wouldn’t really say my symptoms dissapear after abstaining.

    But anyway POIS I see you’re set as a bull that you’re right and we’re wrong.. so lets just drop this. topic closed.

    #14863

    Rich

    I agree with POIS message of muscle relaxation, because over months Ive realized how tense I am down there.

    However it doesn’t explain then, why POIS did not have a hard flaccid, and I do.

    Besides POIS explaining the whole relaxation thing, that’s where I get off..

    I agree with pretty much everything everyone else is saying. It’s clear we all have similar symptoms, but are very different cases.

    For example I think me and Frenchi may share symptoms, but we’re not the same cause.

    However, , me and you share a LOT of similarities, your story is strikingly similar to mine. So keep us posted on the development from here on out. After I see Dr. Mariano, I’ll see what he has to say, but my next stop will be a pelvic floor specialist, and finally a psychiatrist.

    That covers Hormones + Pelvic Floor + Psychological/Neurotransmitter shit.

    Oh and Obitoo, this isn’t a physical damaging of the penis. Mine started immediately after smoking weed and then taking a piss and applying a topical cream thing.

    It has to be hormones+neurotransmitters+Pelvic floor disorder.

    The real question here is, in what order did they come? For me I know neurotransmitters was last because PE/ED followed LATE after the onset. My order is either; Hormones -> Pelvic Floor disorder -> Neuro’s

    or what I’m thinking right now

    Pelvic Floor disorder -> Hormones -> Neuro’s.

    For anyone else the order could change or one factor may be taken out. The question is what was the forward push that began this whole thing, and how do you fix it?

    I think for me it will be the case of relaxation techniques (Which can include yoga/meditation, but you don’t need those as I won’t be using them) many of these relaxation techniques can be taught to you from a pelvic floor specialist, along with the use of Biofeedback. After fixing my pelvic floor, the hormones and neuro’s will just fall back into place with a better state of mind along with therapy.

    #14864

    Clifton

    it may or may not work, it would at least tell you whether the hormones you THINK are responsible actually are or aren’t. If you smoke weed and the hormone dont change, then it means it could be other hormones or muscular, if you smoke weed and the hormones change then you know the hormones have a good correlation.

    However POIS is still wrong, he may have a case for hard flaccid people, but not for people like JS.

    Anyone tried any alpha blockers? If so, which were best for you? I think I’m going to give them a try.

    #14865

    Raleigh

    Nice info. My order was likely Pevic Floor (ongoing) > Hormones (meds, stress, saw palmetto) > Neuros (mega stress, adrenaline overload, masturbation)

    I might even venture to guess that many of us could put both Hormones and Neuros before Pelvic Floor as well. I didn’t start ruining my pelvic floor for no reason. Tension and stress would have got that going as well.

    #14866

    Luis

    whether or not your statement is true pois im interested in your video and we need to see how it works

    perhaps it works for all us who knows??

    we need some ppl here to try it

    i know abstaining didn’t do much for me, neither for max

    still im in this shitter i’ll admit

    but what i do notice is that i have hormonal deficiences and i would like to have them fixed regardless

    when i had low t at 300 and adrenal fatigue i had no sexual function, i add in HC and can function, add in vitamin D because i am way low on it and test goes up also e2 goes up, e2 goes up i try dim and zinc and can have a decent wood to bone with, i have lack of thyroid and i add thyroid and my dark circles reduce dramatically and i feel ten times better, i add even more testosterone and i feel like a champ but can’t have wood again

    you see where im going with this?

    i’d like to have the hormones and vitamins neuros fixed regardless

    but if your video has merit we definitely be interested, you just need some ppl on here who followed your instructions and post results and then we can probably settle this debate

    #14867

    Gerry

    The thing with hard-flaccid is that i think it’s just a variation of clenching that remains after an orgasm.

    There are alot of muscles down there which means we could have learned to clench them differently. I felt that I was clenching all the time the muscles that are responsible for orgasm (that’s why I was able to do an “auto-orgasm” consciously) and my BC was absolutely going bananaz whethever I had any stronger penis stimulation. That could be the reason why I didn’t have any prominent hard flaccid but more of POIS/SE problems.. very tough POIS/SE problems..

    It’s just very hard not to follow the simmilar things we all shared.. some sort of anxieties (especially the weird social one), porn addiction to a certain degree, eye floaters (very interesting symptom), low testosterone link, brain fog in many individuals, overactive skin oil production, hair falling out…. and especially – everything goes wrong again after an orgasm.

    same source problem, different variations depending on what are you really clenching..

    1. If you clench more the muscles in the “orgasm-trigger” system you get SE/POIS (heavy brainfogs and many physical symptoms).

    2. If you clench more the IS + maybe some combination of BC area you get especially hard-flaccid. IS muscles are responsible for : “Ischiocavernosus compresses the crus penis, and retards the return of the blood through the veins, and thus serves to maintain the organ erect.”

    So what happens after orgasm for you that this muscle goes into a certain spasm which causes it to do the same thing as if it wanted to keep an erection. But an erection without any blood in penis = hard flaccid

    the most important thing is… these are just theories.. we all have just unproven theories… the difference now is that I have perfect results. If you don’t try you’ll never know exactly.

    #14869

    Derek

    , the problem does NOT disappear after time away from sexual activities. It improves but very very very slowly. The body is not producing things fast enough for normal recovery time.

    , I’m actually getting very old now at 26 and ready to hang it up. I will give it one last shot as soon as I get things in order.

    #14870

    Gerard

    , what was the longest time of your abstinence? Pls be honest about it.

    #14871

    Hyman

    Only problem I have with the orgasm/clench/brain scenario is; How do we explain the people who’ve got this from jelqing their flaccid penis? Nothing sexual going on there.

    I’m really wondering about an injury to the Pudendal nerve. Constant spasming and flexing of the BC could lead to a stretch injury, or get damaged if there is some kind of entrapment. And since nerves only have about a 12% maximum give in either direction, so could jelqing have the same effect.

    I just can’t get past the fact that my BC went from being the strongest muscle in my body to now being the weakest, overnight. I can’t even flex it at all half the time. Not to mention, the numbness in my penis, the urine dribbling etc. This is a lack of control.

    Perhaps nerve damage is sustained, and it is this new lack of communication FROM the penis to the rest of the body that is causing hormones and chemicals to change accordingly? I can’t think of any reason for my BC to just give out other than nerve damage.

    On the other hand, there’s a guy on the other forum who said he had all the same symptoms and was cured in 3 days with a low dose SSRI. That’s pretty amazing.

    #14872

    Jeff

    This is my speculation but people who do penile exercises to make their schlongs longer are probably very anxious about their genitals. Sort of a penis anxiety. The more you concentrate on your penis (by excercise or just “feeling” the area) the more you can disturb the autonomous processes going on there. And you said it was your strongest muscle before. That means you created a very strong conscious link to it. Normally people never do.. only during peeing they squeeze to get the last drops out…. and when the orgasm happens.

    #14873

    Mariano

    Indeed the cases vary, I myself don’t really relate to anyone here. I never lost erection power (can do it 6 times a day) and I don’t get any acute symptoms even from that many ejaculations. POIS has good points but his theory alone cannot fix everything and everyone.

    #14874

    Michale

    LOL

    I think you just got sexually abused, my friend.

    X-Rays and Ultrasounds will not show chronic tension.

    #14875

    Rigoberto

    this has pretty much been my message the whole time. I just think i have a more asshole aproach then .

    #14876

    Carlton

    That means I have bad points because these days I “blatlantly” believe we all have just variations of a certain anxietal pelvic muscles disorder syndrome which can be fixed by properly breaking the psychosomatic loop.

    So what are you doing with your yoga anyway. And what is your story why you’re here?

    #14877

    Moshe

    that fact that alpha blockers work literally proves its a biochemical reactions for MOST ( not all )of you.

    Just the same way that 5htp cures PE for me temporarily in super high doses.

    Good luck curing a biochemical imbalance , with sticking your fingers in yoru ass and abstaining.

    #14878

    Tommie

    why…..why would you hang it up? wtf are you gona do for the rest of your life. It almost seems like you like being sexualy exahuasted.

    If thats your mentally you might as well go on HRT. like wtf…….Have you even tested neurotransmitters. I guarentee theres so much shit wrong in your body its not even funny.

    Iv seen your list of all the supplemtns you have tried and there all retarted .

    I just dont get it your 26 dude thats not that old!!!!

    #14879

    Wilmer

    “that fact that alpha blockers work literally proves its a biochemical reactions for MOST ( not all )of you.

    Just the same way that 5htp cures PE for me temporarily in super high doses.

    Good luck curing a biochemical imbalance , with sticking your fingers in yoru ass and abstaining.”

    lool.. to be fair though alpha blockers can also just have a vasodilating effect on muscles kinda like viagra.. so its not necessarily a biochemical reaction.

    But there are plenty other hints that show this is biochemical. The dude Scot mentioned how its the worst in the morning, and then hard flaccid could be nearly gone by nighttime. I experience that sometimes.

    If this were only due to pelvic floor tension why the hell would it release in the evening and be worse in the morning? there’s no answer.

    More likely its because cortisol it at its worst in the morning, below range, for me at least, and scot too probly, and then gets back in range by nighttime. Also thyroid is at its worst in the morning. Body temperature is low when you wake up, hypothyroids experience cold hands and feet in the morning and an overall shitty feeling, like me lol, and then thyroid also picks up in the afternoon and is at its best by night time. hypothyroid releases PGE2, adrenals release excess norepinephrine which according to dr. richards releases excess PGE2. So it makes sense.

    I don’t know if E2 fluctuates throughout the day.

    #14880

    Scott

    yet another biochemical explanation of whats happening and a real explanation for hard flacid ( for most of you not all im not saying it cant just be pelvic disorder for some)

    How SSRIS work

    SSRIS increase the serotonin signal in the brain. Serotonin is calming signal associated with reduced anxiety and stress. By increasing serotonin one lowers norepinephrine the primary signal for stress.

    To even further illustrate this point

    Alpha Medications work by keeping the hormones of norepinephrine or noradrenaline at bay. Thus, it can lead to a smoother blood flow through open veins.

    Once again it seems like there are multiple versions of hard flacid as well as mutliple reasons for it. So the above may only apply to some of you.

    Never the less I think I make a good point and you sould not discount this.

    the idea of pelvic floor dysfunction increasing sympathetic activity and ruining hormonal levels is…….I dont even have the words for it .

    and even more ludicrous is the idea that attemptin to fix the pelvic floor through exercises will reduce sympathetic activity or fix hormones is even more……

    Only if you are a very mild case indeed would abstaining and sticking your finger up your ass or whatever it is you do partially fix the biochemical reason for it in the first place. Even that is a stretch.

    #14881

    Rudolph

    Your logic is as good as a logic of a troll. Also your snickering remark about someone (?) sticking his fingers into his ass is rather arrogant.

    Beta adregenic-blockers a.k.a Beta-blockers help people who have stage fright. Through your troll logic it means – oh no they have imbalances! Poor souls should get tested and get their hormones in order…well LOL.

    You have no idea how hormones work, what affects hormone productions, where do the signals for hormone production start, what is stress, how stress works, where do the signals to start stress originate, how certain levels of chemicals in body enhance or diminish these stress signals or other hormones.

    You’re head deep in ad-hoc fallacies all the time. And you have even the nerve to be arrogant to some of the members.

    #14882

    Nicky

    LOL

    I think you just got sexually abused, my friend.

    X-Rays and Ultrasounds will not show chronic tension.

    The experience was indeed was a complete shocker . Im not very proud of it but you gotta do what what you gotta do.The dude walks in and fires up some bangbros and is like get an erection ill be back in 5 minutes. I was like WTF…..

    I can literally guarentee you that ultra sounds will indeed show chronic tension. The initial reason he even bothered with this test was cuse I told him I had PE and he said the number one reason he encoutered for PE was chronic tension in the pelvic and another muscle underneath your balls and above your ass ( i cant remeber the name sorry) . He did ultrasounds on both of those while i masterbated and ejaculated .

    He said I have completly normal contractions and ejaculation reactions in those muscles. He said I have no chronic tension and said it must be a trained reflex responsible for my PE. So he processed to prescribe me testosterone and a fleshlight lol and said to masterbate alot.

    And i dont have chronic tension and never have. yet I have all the symptoms of SE. once again proving that offering a video as the solution to everyones problems is pretty ignorant.

    #14883

    Caleb

    Your logic is as good as a logic of a troll. Also your snickering remark about someone (?) sticking his fingers into his ass is rather arrogant.

    Beta adregenic-blockers a.k.a Beta-blockers help people who have stage fright. Through your troll logic it means – oh no they have imbalances! Poor souls should get tested and get their hormones in order…well LOL.

    You have no idea how hormones work, what affects hormone productions, where do the signals for hormone production start, what is stress, how stress works, where do the signals to start stress originate, how certain levels of chemicals in body enhance or diminish these stress signals or other hormones.

    You’re head deep in ad-hoc fallacies all the time. And you have even the nerve to be arrogant to some of the members.

    I HAVE NO IDEA HOW HORMONES WORK!?!?!?!?! hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahah

    YOUR THE ONE ADVOCATING THAT FIXING YOUR HORMONES AND NEUROTRANSMITTERS IS DONE BY SOME EXERCISES ON YOUR VIDEO.

    I cant do this anymore some people are just to fucking stupid. Are you fucking retarted. THERE IS A BIOCHEMICAL reason for stage fright.

    I literally spoke to Dr. M yesterday and he was like the reason you feel anxious, irritable, unconfident and have mood swings is because your body has terrible control over its norepinephrine production. When you feel ok is when your body has managed to temporarily control our norepinephrine. But when all your symptoms return is when your control over norepinephrine is weak.

    im assuming that explanation was lost on you. By all your statements you are the one literally proving how pathetic your knowledge of the human body is.

    #14884

    Lyman

    @: wow, thanks for sharing! very interesting case. so, for you, is it that this WAS due to overmasturbation and chemicals – or that it IS due to those things? Basically I’m wondering:

    – How long have you had this?

    – When this kicked in, did you immediately stop overmasturbating completely?

    – Are you still overmasturbating?

    – Are you getting any better, and how?

    I don’t believe I was OVERmasturbating but who knows, maybe it was a little too much for me personally – especially with the stress and meds thrown into the mix? Really wish the doctor didn’t tell me to ejaculate as much as possible when it turns out that I never had an infection. One simple test 2 months ago, instead of a prescription, would have prevented all of this.

    I actually know who Dr. Paduch is. I wanted to see him for something else not long ago but unfortunately their dept doesn’t take my insurance. But I’m willing to pay if it’s helpful.

    What did he determine exactly? What did he say is actually happening the shaft when it’s hard? It is blood? It it void of blood? Is the muscle eternally clenched, eternally unclenched? Anything is helpful.

    This is probably naive but I’d assume that if we’ve whacked our bodies out that simply stopping all the bad activity would allow it to correct itself. I still haven’t heard of a single person who had this happen, then ceased all masturbation etc. Seems like most kept going. And there lots of people who say “Happened to me. Leave it alone for a few weeks and it will go away.” That’s what I’m doing. I don’t even have any desire at all anyway. Perhaps it really can heal if you go 100% hands-off immediately. I do think my hormones at play as well though. The stress I was under was intense, plus the meds and supplements were already screwing with me.

    Keep in touch. I can’t friggin’ believe in Manhattan we can’t find a single doctor whose even heard of this before. That blows my mind. Did Paduch say he’d seen it before?

    #14885

    Jan

    Iv had this condition for about 15 months now. Im 19 years old and it started happening to me halfway through my first relationship.

    I had always masterbated , usually at a rate of 2-7 times a week depening on my needs from lets say 4th grade to senior year of HS. Senior year of HS i meet my EX and we started going out. I had some initial performance anxiety not to mention was a little desensitized from the years of jerking off to porn so i had some mild ED the first few times we had sex.

    But after several weeks of being together and reducing my masterbation ( was pure luck she satisfied me so I didnt have a need to jerk off) I regained more then satisfactory sexual function.

    For the next 12 months or so everything was great. I rarely ever had ED, was always horny , was very happy, energetic, could work out as much as I pleased and I basically had an awesome senior year. O also very very important. I didnt have the slightest case of Premature ejaculation. I could go foever. I would say I only ejaculated 1 in 5 times and it took a huge effort.

    Now during most of highschool years I drank moderatly and smoked weed moderatly. Prob drank like once every two weeks and smoked like twice a week on average during senior year. In the earlier years of HS I smoked much less more like once a month.

    Anyway fastforward to freshmen year of college and we decide to do the whole long distance thing. I also decide to try exstacy twice, Xanax 3 or 4 times, started smoking almost daily sometimes even twice, and also returned to my old ways of jerking off, except this time even more instead of 2-7 times a week it was more like 1-4 times a day. I was also traning 6 times a week during this time 4 days lifting 2 days cardio.

    That combination of events in the span of 3 to 4 months of freshmen year caused my body to go overboard and totally crash.

    My first symptoms manifested itself as severe premature ejaculation. This obviously caused me to start having ED. After that I gradually started realizing i was really depressed, low energy , trouble recovering after training, inflamatory pains in my back.

    Fast forward a few months and added to that list were eyefloaters and a 2 months long period of very very frequent urination.

    For the first 4 months of these symptoms I had no clue wtf was going on. I thought maybe i was just over excited for sex or some thing. But then after doing some extensive research i found the whole Dr. Lin explanation of overmasterbation and sexual exhaustion realized it matched everything I had perfectly and then I found this forum and realized im not alone.

    My first course of action was to run to all the different doctors in the area and see what they had to say. And basically they all said i was fine and it was in my head. so after a few frustrating months I was like F*ck this its not in my head these assholes are retarted.

    So I made the journey to Dr. Overbeck and Shawn bean in philadelphia. I dono how familiar you are with the whole forum community but Shawn bean posts on all the main forums as Hardasnails1973. He even used to post on me.

    Anyway it was with them that I finally started taking the right steps to regaining my health. We did extensive blood work for hormones as well as neurotransmitters.

    from hormonal blood work I have the following problems

    1) Low to mediocore testosterone

    2) Low DHT

    3) slight adrenal fatigue

    4) hypothyroid due to ok Free t3 but terriblly high Rt3.

    My neurotransmitters all came back terribly low below range thanks to the overmasterbation and drug use.

    So this all looks nice and dandy but to make a long story short I needed “more help ” to figure out my problems.

    So this past december I flew out to california for an apointment with Dr. Mariano who along with Dr. Chrisler are the two best in the buisness when it comes to hormones neurotransmitters etc.

    THe dude is a genious and by taking my temperature, pulse, checking my eyes, skin texture, reflexes, and ofcourse blood work was like you have clearly blown your sympathetic nervous system into overdrive and you all sorts of hormonal issues etc.

    So now its about month 15 or so of this living hell. Iv basically identified all my problem areas . At this point its a matter of creating a protocol to do the following in this order

    1) reverse my slight adrenal fatigue

    2) Fix my thyroid

    3) fix my testosterone

    4) fix my neurotransmitters

    the problem is that for now mariano is taking a kinda of all natural approach with vitamins nutriotional intervetion etc that was a epic fail but thats ok I understand that he wants to i guess take his time especially based on my age. My first phone consultation is actually this thursday so I have a shitload to talk about with him and hopefully we can begin the real healing.

    Now you also asked how has stopping masterbation and porn affected me?

    well lets see the day I found out about this SE shit I stopped both and saved my energy for my GF at the time. Within a few weeks I rarely had ED but still had ALL my other symptoms. Since then we have broken up and iv only hooked up with one girl since so i dont have a girl to “test things ” with anymore.

    However its my opinion that abstainin is only part of the solution. All it does it resenstize your brain ( most likely resenstizes dopamine receptors) to sexual stimulus. So sure it will help you get erections.

    As a matter of fact in janurary and febuary I did another abstainin stint of about 30 days. Similar results, a week or two in you notice its easier to get erections , hornier etc. But if your not gona deal with all the other issues affecting your body its my opinion you will never truly heal. Iv known what its like to experience a year of pretty good ( could have been better had I known everyhting I do now ) sexual function. And just abstaining will not let you regain that and my goal is to get as close I can to what I previously was if not better.

    anyway this past month since the abstain iv been keepin it to like once a week. never watch porn. It dosnt really affect anything.

    However Once im truly on a protocol for healing I plan on doing everything I can to abstain as much as possible.

    Sorry for how crazy long this is lol

    #14886

    Bart

    Wow, thanks for sharing. Do you, or did you, have “hard flaccid” as well? I’ve never really suffered from ED at all. Once in a while I’d lose excitement when really tired but nothing major.

    #14887

    Ronald

    No hard flacid for me thank god . But I have noticed something like this happen.

    When I decide im gona masterbate ill sometimes get heart palpitations and anxiety. this is almost defiently due to the spike in norepinephrine when im faced with a sexual situation. anyway I have noticed that when this happens my dick will often turtle and get hard while soft.

    this only happens sometimes ( usually when i abstain for a long time lmao ) and is about the closest I get to experiencing hard flacid.

    #14888

    Sergio

    Frenchiman :

    I think this way because clearly if hormones were to blame there would be much more cases of hard flacid and SE if it were the hormones. People have hormonal imbalances all the time and if you would look into the database you would see many people with the same exact values and you have but no hard-flaccid or SE. No coincidence there buddy.

    And no I don’t have all the answers.. the thing is I stoped looking for explanations in the theory.

    I was a clencher too, Obitoo just admited to that also.. we are all clenchers and certain life circumstances have threw us over the edge into a very exotic ailment. Yes pumping testosterone into your veins can help you feel a bit better but it will not erase the problem that is in your brain and in your pelvic area. But if you would undergo HRT and do the right things to re-learn your buttons you would probably get a speedier recovery. It was insanely fast in my case but it’s probably thanks to all of the previous training I had before.

    #14889

    Melvin

    number 1. I couldn’t find anybody else with a combination of hormonal imbalances just like mine, besides. There are people with thyroid issues, there are people with cortisol issues, people with both thyroid and cortisol.. but I could find nobody with low thyroid, adrenals, AND high E2 at the same time AND high inflammation AND messed up T.

    The only person with the same combination is Chris and he had hard flaccid.

    Next alota people have hard flaccid actually, unfortunately. There’s this forum, medhelp forum, Dr. richard’s and lin’s countless cases, and a bunch of other forums. Yea true a lot of people around the world have adrenal fatigue and don’t have hard flaccid.. but how many of them have low thyroid, super high e2, low T, and inflammation at the same time? not many. And how do we know that those not many all don’t have hard flaccid? Maybe they do. We don’t know. We’ll never know.

    I’m not advocating that hormones are responsible for everything – you could be completely right – i’m just throwing both sides of the picture out there.

    I actually used to clench my PC/BC/whatever muscles down there too when I was younger. Not to the extreme, and I’ve never hard problems with urinating or bowel movements, but I did clench whatever muscles down there while jerking off when I was young to speed up the process, and now I’m assuming that how I developed PE in the first place.

    So its possible that turned into pelvic floor disorder.. but my hormones are still messed up regardless and I gotta balance them either way. Then we’ll see what happens.

    Today my flaccid is not bad at all. Since I jerked off two days in a row its stayed soft and plumb.. go figure :S

    So earlier I was sitting, fully relaxing, doing some improvised yoga, deep breathing.. trying to relax pelvic floor muscles like Tech was saying.. and I could actually feel some muscles down there relaxing. I look and flaccid hang improved by just a small amount. Then I got up, started clenching everything I can down there to see what would happen.. pc, bc, everything.. started walking quickly.. I look and hang is practically unchanged. Actually from flexing my pc muscle I started getting semi hard.. instead of back to hard flaccid which should have happened if I ‘contract things down there’..

    so basically all day today hang is pretty good.. tightening or relaxing those muscles makes a very small difference..

    so this completely against pelvic floor theory.. probably means that I got alota sleep, havent been stressing, was barely moving all day.. so cortisol was better than normally.

    #14890

    Stan

    Theories and theories again yada yada. You say that cortisol is ok without having a proper blood test. That’s borderline crazy.

    Frenchi what counts are the results and not the usual forum babble. Your results Frenchi??? that’s what counts.. the results.

    #14891

    Brant

    Ok you’re gonna have to rephrase that cuz I don’t really get you.

    “without having a proper blood test”?

    – I have done a blood test. and a saliva test. I mentioned it many times in this thread alone. The results show that my cortisol is not ok. Far from ok. Morning cortisol is below range, evening is over the top of the range.

    I was saying that on days when I don’t stress, don’t move much, sleep alot, cortisol probably improves.. and that helps my symptoms. That’s just my guess.

    If by “results” you’re talking about progress and how I feel then I agree. In that sense I haven’t really achieved any results yet. But we’ll see what happens when I improve hormones.

    #14892

    Patrick

    Okay but be on the lookout for the ad hoc fallacy. Good levels of hormones and neurotransmitters can improve every aspect of life and therefore even SE or hard-flaccid. But improve doesn’t mean cure or fix and therefore the “core problem” is somewhere else.

    People spent too much time following wrong paths even though they seemed promising at first.

    #14893

    Hank

    So you had hard flaccid and recovered quickly? That is encouraging, and the only first-hand recovery I’ve heard of. How long did it take, and what was involved? I am seeing a doctor today that I hope can help and would like to have as much useful info as possible. I’m willing to do anything.

    Thank you.

    #14894

    Horace

    I’m not really sure if I had hard-flaccid. Sometimes it was harder to the touch and sometimes it was nice and plump. I think it’s normal that it hangs differently every now and then. But I definitely had some serious pelvic muscle problems as my ass was tight all the time, buzzing prostate especially when I was sitting, ED from time to time, loss of sensation in penis. By spasming certain pelvic muscles I could even acheive a complete orgasm without any manual stimulation.

    My main problem was that I had was serious health problems after an orgasm. A post orgasmic illness syndrome.

    What made me normal again were normal orgasms. These “normal” orgasms caused relaxation in my pelvic area and suddenly every symptom I had started immediately vanishing even severe brain fog, flight-or-fight mode I was in all the time and certain social phobia. Funny thing is.. I’m the only one to date active on the forums who’s reporting a 100% success.. not just 50-60 or 80.. 100%.

    We’re doing a video on our findings but I’m seeing a complete lack of any serious interest from the sufferers. This is seriously annoying for me and I’m losing any interest of explaining anything. That’s why I want the video finally finished so people who want to try something else will try it and I don’t have to be active and try to persaude people. It’s even free for god sakes.. no tests, no supplements, no hard training. You just have to have patience to reach a certain breaking point after which the pelvic area function restarts normally again. If you don’t reach that breaking point you can have some success but if you try again it’ll be harder and harder and you’ll be failing all the time.

    It really reminds me the way that people with traumatic masturbation syndrome have to fix it (www.healthystrokes.com). If they just try to masturbate the normal way they won’t be able to do it. They have to wait two weeks (depends on the case) without any sexual actvities and after that the body has reset it’s learning process enough so they can achieve the orgasm in a more normal way (it takes a few long attempts normally). The body learns the new process and makes it the primary one. When you get used to one masturbation technique you immediately forget the older ones and it’s harder with them to achieve an orgasm.

    Same with people why try TENS (electric stimulation) on their penis to achieve an orgasm. They ussualy have to abstain for a while to learn to orgasm with it.

    In our cases it’s different that it’s not the masturbation technique but the reflexes which cause clenching the pelvic area. They need to be erased and you should actually feel relaxation in the pelvic area to achieve a normal orgasm. Your autonomous reflexes will trigger the orgasm when it’s the right time so there will be no need for extra “pressure” you have been causing consciously. It’s the arousal alone that should be manipulating alot of functions and for that you also need normal arousal (no pr0n).

    Before I even needed the “pressure/flexing” downthere to have an erection. Not anymore… it pretty much happens very autonomously.

    If your hard flaccid and other problems go away if you abstain from masturbation or sex then I guess you might start thinking what i’m trying to say here.

    but people rather not listen or bother…

    I guess people fear something… and it’s seriously annoying!

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