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    Filiberto

    It was revolutionary when W. started telling people how he healed himself in the late 2004s. Before W., few people challenged Dr.Lin. Dr.Lin kept telling people that his products should start working in just a week and will have a significant effect in just 2-3 months. If his products didn’t work for you, he would suggest that maybe your digestive system is not picking up the ingredients. He told me to take bioperine with his products.

    Now many years later, W. is long gone and few people if any ever actually benefited from his regiment. The sexual exhaustion community is moving towards new directions with people like Dr. Mariano and Dr.Chrisler being consulted. Let’s analyze and critique W’s method and views in light of new advances (if any).

    My Note: Around that time I was one of the first people to stumble across Dr.Wilson’s Adrenal Fatigue book at a book store before it became a more popular idea (like on the integrative psychiatry site). Now many years later a lot of people are also looking into adrenal fatigue, seems to be a possible aspect of our problem. Officially I was diagnosed independently by two different TCM practitioners as suffering from kidney yin deficiency so I picked up the book because I take the Chinese are talking about the adrenals. Chrisler’s page on hormones seems to have looked into this well.

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    W. Method:

    First steps:

    – Get a testosterone level check. Check your FSH and LH hormone levels to see how well your pituitary is working. Test for prolactin level (My note: Obviously this is outdated, you will have to do a full range test on the many different hormones and neurotransmitters)

    – Take a liver detoxification formula for six weeks.

    Supplements:

    Morning – on empty stomach, take two Tribex capsules

    Breakfast – Choline 500 mg, NOW ADAM multi-vitamin

    2 hours later – 5-HTP 100 mg, two Tribex capsule

    Lunch – NOW ADAM multi-vitamin

    1 hour later – 5-HTP 100 mg, Tribex two capsule

    Dinner – Choline 500 mg

    1 hour after dinner – 5-HTP 100 mg, Tribex two capsule

    Just before bed – L-arginine

    Additional Supplements if you can get:

    – ZMA

    – Tongkat ali

    – Exotica – horny goat weed formula

    – Clomid – take 100 mg for two week then 50 mg for the next two week

    – 6-OXO

    What to do and what to avoid:

    – Tribex, L-arginine, 5-HTP and L-tyrosine should be taken on an empty stomach

    – Drink at least 12 fl oz of water with every intake of supplements

    – Get at least seven hours of sleep each night, ten hours is preferred. Your body makes high amounts of HGH at night.

    – No alcohol (increases prolactin)

    – Absoubtly no sexual activities/porn

    – Stop worrying

    Proposed corrections to Dr.Lin:

    – You can get much more for your money and much better quality of supplements elsewhere, stay away from Dr.Lin’s products

    – Androstenedione is actually more of an estrogen precursor in men. Androstenedione is an androgen, introducing androgen into your body will slow down your testicular function. A better compound is androdiol (also known as 4-androstene or 4-androstenetrione). But both androstenedione and 4-androstene do not permanently raise testosterone levels. They “spike” testosterone levels, natural herbs like tribulus, avena sativa, mucana pruriens, Asian and American ginseng are better.

    – Mexican wild yam has been shown to have no effects on DHEA levels.

    – Soy isoflavones and licorice have been shown to decrease serum testosterone levels in men (My note: Dr.Lin said soy must be taken with zinc in order to do the opposite and increase testosterone levels)

    – Your body cannot use pure trib. It has to have 20% protodioscin and 60% total saponins for it to work.

    – GABA does not cross the blood brain barrier, you would have to take 5 gram of GABA at night with a tiny bit of wine for it to cross the blood brain barrier

    – Dr.Lin uses chrysin as an aromatase inhibitor in his products but chrysin is not really effective, a better product would be 6-OXO (My note: This was missing in my paper but I recalled from memory)

    Notes:

    – Depression slows down and almost halts hormone production

    – Serotonin can be easily raised by a high intake of 5-HTP. Vitamin A, calcium, chromium and magnesium will also help.

    – Low testosterone in the brain receptors will cause depression, lack of motivation, unhappiness etc.

    – Normal testosterone level is different in every person. The range that is most used is 260 to 1000 ng/dl. However, for larger men, some have levels in the 1500 ng/dl. Even though you’re having problems, if you’re in the normal range then you’re considered normal to them.

    – Eye floaters go away when your dopamine level returns

    – Anxiety is caused by extremely low serotonin levels due to severe over-masturbation. Stop masturbating and looking at porn

    Exercise

    – Exercise 4 to 5 days a week for at least an hour

    – Weight training is better for kicking hormone production into high gear

    Eating:

    – Eat a lot of veggies, fruits, nuts and stay away from junk food. Drink a glass or two of milk a day (My note: I can see criticisms here, have been reading lately that dairy is a no no)

    Eat eggs everyday if possible. Eat a lot of meat, whether it be fish, poultry, red meat (lean cut). Eat a lot of peanuts everyday. Peanuts contain a lot of monosaturated fats which make the tests produce more testosterone. Start eating broccoli, cabbage, brussel sprouts, collards, cress, kale, kohlrabi, radishes, turnip greens and watercress. These all contain high amount of idole-3-carbinal which turn bad estrogens into good estrogens. This will increase your testosterone because bad estrogens decrease production of testosterone.

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    Additional Notes from others:

    Symptoms of over-masturbation by Gloria S.

    – Muscle loss, vision problems (eye floaters), hair loss, dry flaky scalp, graying and dull hair color, lower back pain, pale greenish tint to skin, acne, bad breath (My note: possible but doubtful), loss of skin elasticity, long heavy period (women), depression, memory loss, loss of concentration, paranoia, hysteria, brittle nails, swelling of limps, excessive sweating

    I recently pulled this old post from the Dr.Lin site in case you haven’t seen it, while I was looking into POIS symptoms to see if it’s a variation of sexual exhaustion

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    1. daily or orgasmic/ejaculation pains or cramps in pelvic cavity – including low back, tail bone, perineum, groins, perineum, penis (clitoris/vagina for women during penetration, intercourse, orgasm or post orgasm), testicles, low abdomen, neck/shoulders or rear brain (or whole head)- due to a lack of the relaxation and tissue-elastic hormone prostaglandin E-1 synthesized by the local tissues, an abrupt drop of the brain’s neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin and GABA, or an excessive conversion of the dopamine->norepinephrine->epinephrine.

    2. depression, stress , anxiety, and emotional instability (Mood Swing) – due to deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin add GABA.

    3. Attention Deficiency and Absence mind (losing mind concentration and memory) – due to the deficiency of the brain’s neurotransmitters serotonin and acetylcholine – memory protection failure or insufficient memory.

    4. eye floaters or sun-light sensitive eyes, blurred vision or sympathetic nervous pupil dilation – due to disorders of the nervous sensing (acetylcholine nervous) and amplifier (dopamine nervous) circuits, a deficiency of the serotonin/GABA nervous modulation in retina, excessive stress hormones, or a poor retinal blood circulation or an arterial constriction due to deficiency of prostaglandin E-1 or/and Nitric oxide or sympathetic nervous action on the beta receptors, or an excessive inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2 release induced by deficiency of the androgen hormones or excessive stressors cortisol or epinephrine.

    5. buzzing ears – the same as Item 4..

    6. less or no seminal/lubrication production (vaginal dryness for women and VAGINISMUS ), weak ejaculation or ejaculation dysfunction – watery ejaculation or no ejaculation or orgasm – due to the neuro-endocrine disorder resulting from the weakening liver, adrenal, prostate and testicular (ovarian) functions. This is the destruction of seminal production mechanism for men. For women, it is due to a low estrogen and androstenedione/testosterone/prostaglandin E-1/oxytocin or/and a high progesterone level in the bloodstream.

    7. weak erection or youth impotence.

    8. low libido, exhaustion and fatigue due to deficiency of the brain’s neurotransmitters dopamine, acetylcholine and serotonin and a lack of oxytocin.

    9. prostatitis or urethitis ( the abrasion of the prostate or urethral duct; easier to have prostate/urethral/bladder infection) , urinary or bowel incontinence, pelvic pains (Interstitial Cystitis (IC) , testicular pains, penile pains, and clitoral numbness or pains as a result of excessive inflammatory prostaglandin E-2 release with a deficiency of healing hormone prostaglandin E-1 – disorders of the 3rd brain – the pelvic parasympathetic nerves S1-S5 and Co and the serotonin nervous modulators for the sympathetic T10-L2, particularly the L1 and L2 nervous branches to the bladder, urethra, prostate, bulbourethral glands, Great Vestibular glands, Urethral glands (de-generated seminal vesicles), clitoris, vagina, uterus and rectum/anus. men produces excessive pre-cum and women are vaginally over-wetted. Men or women may experience sex-/orgasm-induced stress incontinence (leakage or ejaculation of urine during sex or orgasm).

    10. penile (clitoral or G-spot for women) shrinkage ( or vaginal enlargement or loosening for women) – due to atrophy of spongy tissues caused by nervous damage, deficiency of acetylcholine or/and Nitric Oxide, or excessive stress hormone in the sympathetic alpha receptors.

    11. unwanted penile bending and shrinking (the clitoral/G-spot death and shrinkage)- formation of the scar tissues due to tissue and nervous abrasion .

    12. premature ejaculation – damage of the prostate/urethral nerves and duct, and burning-out (drop) of the serotonin and acetylcholine level in the brain and nervous synapses.

    13. premature hair loss or decoloring.

    14. short breathing and irregular cardiovascular output (sympathetic) – a weakening brain’s acetylcholine/serotonin and parasympathetic/vagus nervous function.

    15. white or violet nails – deficiency of Zinc.

    16. weak immunity – neuro-immune disorder resulting from the deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine (Yin Chi) and dopamine (Yang Chi). For example, easy to catch cool or get sick and requiring a longer time to get recovery from sickness.

    17. Sleeping disorder and its associated symptoms- due to the deficiency of serotonin and melatonin, both of which are synthesized by the pineal gland with GABA and norepinephrine, or due to excessive pituitary LH and FSH hormones in an attempt to revive a weak/dying testicular/ovarian function, or due to excessive Yang-type stressor epinephrine in the cerebrospinal fluid. This causes a deficiency hGH and excessive inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E-2 release into the bloodstream, an undercharging of the parasympathetic nervous system, and an excessive sympathetic nervous fire (Flight or Fight), resulting in back/joint/ligament pains or cramps, urinary or bowel incontinence, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), prostatitis or urethritis, as a result of no or insufficient healing (restoration) power (prostaglandin E-1) in the organs. muscles, ligaments and joints. Please note that excessive Ying-type stressor cortisol causes hGH, DHEA and testosterone deficiency and induces drowsiness over-sleeping, blurred vision, and hangover.

    18. organ functional disorders in the 2nd brain (between the neck and pelvis) due to the weakening of the vagus (parasympathetic) nerves and the weakening serotonin nervous modulation on the sympathetic nervous functions – the most typical ones are: digestive , cardiovascular and liver systems; some experience the gallbladder and pancreas functional disorders too. The most visual or sensible disorder is stomach pain or digestive panic.

    19. Excessive Sweating – the sympathetic/epinephrine nervous fires burning the entire body due to an constantly excessive dopamine/norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion in the hypothalamus and adrenal medulla.

    20. Headaches or migraines – due to excessive inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E-2 release and excessive dopamine/norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion in the brain after the acetylcholine, serotonin and GABA nervous system were exhausted by excessive sex.

    21. Fatigue, tiredness and exhaustion – the parasympathetic nervous recharging/healing system is out of order; the pituitary releases excessive prolactin to shut down the testicular function.

    22. Muscle weakness – due to deficiency of DHEA, testosterone or DHT. This results from exhaustion of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and/or testicular axis.

    23. Muscle Tremors/Twitching (pre-Parkinson’s symptoms) – due to deficiency of dopamine and acetylcholine.

    24. Weak neuro-immune function and persistent inflammation – easy to get infection or catch flu or cold, sinus, allergy, or/and sore throat.

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    #13840

    Adrian

    Comments, criticisms?

    #13841

    Leonard

    alot of the stuff he mentioned is good. he definetly knew alot and understood alot of the theories.

    there are several forms of SE we have identified. Not to mention everyone has a differnet hormonal and neuro profile. So I think before starting any supplement program you need to know exactly what defeciencies your adressing. so basically it can be misleading to follow this protocol . Its also kind of unorganized.

    overall though with the information this guy had 7 years ago he did a graet job. He clearly understood that you need a very serious and dedicated aproach to heal this. Not to mention the clomid is good shit and alot of the stuff he mentioned it good.

    i feel this protocol is caught in between all the people who tried just supplements and all natural methods and people who are more into HRT. its almost combining the best of both worlds though proably leanin more toward the natural side. But whatever works for you i suppose.

    #13842

    Maxwell

    i started out with dave’s theories without using 5-htp

    tribex should be a good test stimulator but we’ll NEVER know if it increases test because in ALL the years ive been on many boards, everybody keeps raving it increases test but NO ONE actually got a bloodtest while it only will cost you 70 euros

    i don’t understand if it’s really that good, someone should test it for the purpose it was made for

    it did increase libido a lot, it did increase sperm output a lot, but doubt if it increased test levels.. for me it increased precum and that now tells me it somehow messes with dopamine for libido and increased LH/FSH output POSSIBLY but triggers the dopamine->NE conversion which triggers PE and precum.. i also feel trib impacts the prostate too much for me

    i believe this statement by lin to be true

    dopamine increases this in MY BODY so i need to either balance it with 5-htp or use super low dosages throughout the day

    for ppl with super low adrenals and super high NE output his protocol will not work, since it does not really address this, apart from 5-htp calming the system down

    it’s also a haphazard approach.. take this and that and this and that you never know what’s gonna work

    so FOR ME it’s all about the hydrocortisone, destressing the system, reducing precum, reducing inflammation.. HC was dealbreaker for me

    i am thinking about increasing thyroid.. i am on 3.5 grains now and this shit definitely helps with energy and lessens dark circles, indicating it helps my body somehow

    testosterone (in it’s real form) is the shit.. i used to have 300-500 levels, but 125 mg test e just kicks ass

    if i sleep 8 hours, i am awesome in the morning feel super duper

    i need to take my second HC and thyroid dose approx 4-5 hours later, if i wait 7-8 hours i feel tired again.. because it takes over my entire production

    the oils are good for inflammation, and per ‘s recovery story i think we need to do all we can to up vitamins, adrenals, thyroid and if test is still low increase with TRT, and then if still precum (like me) need to look at inflammation reduction

    edit:

    – if you have major morning fatigue count on adrenal fatigue, NO HEAVY WORKOUTS AT ALL! you’ll be able to tell if your body can handle it if after the workout and DAYS after feel wiped out, and get more eye infections and darker circles

    – high dose 5-htp – don’t agree need 50 mg 5-htp and it’s enough to get deep sleep, super high dose is countereffective for me

    – l-arginine i tried 500 mg x 3 daily and this also produces more precum for me, i believe it increases prolactin and thus lowers dopamine so not sure how but it didn’t help with erections but way way more precum

    – l-tyrosine for dopamine i don’t like this, and i did feel it made me produce more dopamine and also more precum.. felt too edgy for me and don’t think everybody needs this

    – AIs chrysin isn’t supposed to work but many reviews on the product even without bioperin show good results.. so blood testing is in order.. 6-oxo without a doubt lowers estrogen and dr mariano finds it to be effective.. a real AI like arimidex works better as was verified by my bloodtesting.. since i produce so much aromatase i may be helped better by aromasin a steroidal suicide AI, but have not tried it yet

    #13843

    Hobert

    I think it’s a bunch of bullshit like 99% of this forum.

    #13844

    Raymon

    ya really hit it on the spot. Theres some good shit some bad. Its sorta disorganized with few dosages and blood tests given.

    I think most of the stuff we talk about now would be alot more productive and beneficial.

    I think if someone is marginally sexually exhausted they could follow a similar protocol and see benefits.

    I think the vast majority of us got more serious issues going on

    #13845

    Teddy

    Quote:

    Well no one has gotten it figured out yet so no one knows the absolute truth.

    #13846

    Hai

    Yes dave was indeed mildly exausted thats why this protocol worked for him , i highly doubt it would work for most people…. dr.lins products have actually helped many people who were mildly exausted i remember years ago whenever herbolove.com had a forum and alot of people would rave about how good dr.lins products were and it was really helping tons of people out (mildly exausted) then came the people to the forums complaining about hes products then they shut it down for that reason lol dr.lins products are actually 5 times more potent then tribex contains 20 more herbs that are useful and contains 4 times more tribulus then tribex , if dr.lins products never worked i doubt tribex would either, its actually funny how people degrade dr.lin but yet take the information they need from him , he use to give me free phone consults for 30min long back in the day if he was really a bad guy he wouldent be doing so , even until now if you email him about ANY questions even if it has nothing to do with hes products he will anwser them hes never not anwsered any of my emails , the only problem is dr.lin doesnt hasnt perfected how hes products work and he doesnt seem to understand the flaws in hes products and how certain deficiencys in the body wont let hes products to be absorbed , i mean if it wasnt for this guy how da hell would any of us knowa about SE? i sure wouldent know and would be living a confused and miserable life , btw machine thanks for the post im sure theres definitely certain things people can benefit from daves protocol.

    #13847

    Carmine

    thats tru without lin we would have absolutly no fuckin clue whats going on. He answered all my questions to but im not gona lie answers were terrible. I never knew wtf he was saying usually one word gibberish answers. But whatever at least he tried lol

    #13848

    Robt

    Dr.Lin is no doubt ahead of his time then and now, there are just flaws that are beyond his ability. He also actively try to con people to buy his products whether they work or not though.

    I actually found out about Dr.Lin’s site in 1999 while looking up things about sexuality and didn’t think that sexual exhaustion can happen to me, thought he was bullshitting. Then in the summer of 2000, it just stop working all of a suddenly one day. These stories will be covered in my work.

    #13849

    Arnold

    I think all of this can pretty greatly improve overall wellbeing but not SE. But HEY! I also claim I’ve recovered and didn’t need any help from drugs.. maybe some combined alpha/beta blocker from some time to time and a great B vit. complex

    #13850

    Vito

    Seeing that amount of symptoms is a flag, whenever you see anyone pushing conditions with 15+ symptoms and very general ones at that, like adrenal fatigue, you shouldn’t take it at the persons word.

    Any information that I follow must be backed up by credible research and people with science degree’s including MD’s. They have credible backgrounds and actually know what makes sense and what doesn’t rather than making illogical or claims that have yet to be proven. We keep using the word SE and POIS but that’s not really what most of us have. I’m not sexually exhausted and I don’t experience PIOS, although I may have symptoms that match the disorders. Really what we are addressing here is body imbalances, and it should be treated as such.

    Also if you don’t like how this forum is evolving, than leave. New research and information is rising. Just like how religion is dying because of science better understanding the world, your spiritual theories are dying because we better scientifically understand what is happening to us. You either evolve with us, or get stuck behind.

    #13851

    Leandro

    LOL!

    #13852

    Peter

    LOL!

    LOL indeed.

    #13853

    Jimmie

    , you’re right. POIS and SE are just two names used for body imbalances that can cause a variety of problems and more specifically sexual problems in the case of these two.

    I’ve reached a conclusion that many different stressors that effects the body can result in all sorts of problems including symptoms of mental illnesses and sexual dysfunction. Drug abuse, poor diets, a lot of stress, weak health from birth (nutritional and genetics), excessive sex etc. can all cause imbalances.

    ly speaking POIS is not correct because orgasm and ejaculation are actually two different thing (you can still ejaculate and no longer experience orgasm). They’re simply talking about draining the body here (which has been known in Traditional Chinese Medicine for thousands of years). You can also get the same symptoms from using SSRI drugs which goes to show that it is simply the stressing of and imbalance of the body’s organs (liver, nervous system, adrenals etc.). Dr.Lin’s coining of sexual exhaustion and post sex stress trauma disorder are more accurate than POIS.

    #13854

    Tommy

    Yeah. The problem is that people are surrounding these imbalances with mysticism like we possess some sort of invisible sexual energy.

    That’s not how the world works. Everything you talk about comes down to biological factors. We just may not understand them yet. Which means that although for some people becoming “spiritual” worked, that doesn’t mean that there was some invisible switch that turned on and all of a sudden you were fixed. The brain has plasticity, if you become spiritual and you believe its helping you, it will. It can create changes in hormones and neurotransmitters. That’s why people who are happy with their lives don’t wake up one day unhappy, they usually need some sort of traumatic event or regression over time. However, the change that say spirituality has over you, may not actually be big enough to fix some people, also some people may not be inclined to become spiritual.

    So things like positive attitude etc. certainly will help, because they are causing REAL changes. The problem is these changes are not big enough. For us changing our lifestyles and the way we lived would have worked if we saw a degradation of our sexual lives. However many of us just woke up one day without sexual function. This suggests a biological crash of some sort. Which means changing your lifestyle AFTER the crash won’t do anything, because it’s already occurred. We have to somehow give the body what it needs, and THEN change our lifestyles so our bodies don’t crash AGAIN.

    #13855

    Williams

    That is what Dr.Lin’s bio-electricity theory is. Once the body is shut down, you need to figure how to jump start it. What a week of rest use to be able to do, two months can’t even come close to duplicating. Someone very healthy can ejaculate three times a day and still be able to repeat the habit the next day while an unhealthy guy can’t even ejaculate once a month anymore even though he’s in his twenties, without feeling exhausted and running out of seminal fluid.

    #13856

    Quentin

    Right, the problem is figuring out what needs to be re-balanced and then how to go about doing so.

    And that can be a real pain seeing as how everything is so inter-related.

    #13857

    Nathanial

    you hit it right on the spot there. the lifestyle changes , spiritual changes, and postitive thinking will not do much until you adressed the route of the crash. thats 90 percent of it. The other parts are just fine tuning and prevention of this happening again.

    #13858

    Garland

    you hit it right on the spot there. the lifestyle changes , spiritual changes, and postitive thinking will not do much until you adressed the route of the crash. thats 90 percent of it. The other parts are just fine tuning and prevention of this happening again.

    who on this board thinks there going to get healed by spiritual changes and positive thinking? LOLL

    #13859

    Timmy

    you hit it right on the spot there. the lifestyle changes , spiritual changes, and postitive thinking will not do much until you adressed the route of the crash. thats 90 percent of it. The other parts are just fine tuning and prevention of this happening again.

    who on this board thinks there going to get healed by spiritual changes and positive thinking? LOLL

    A surprising number.

    One of them being the guy who think 99% of the stuff on this forum is bullshit.

    #13860

    Elvis

    you hit it right on the spot there. the lifestyle changes , spiritual changes, and postitive thinking will not do much until you adressed the route of the crash. thats 90 percent of it. The other parts are just fine tuning and prevention of this happening again.

    who on this board thinks there going to get healed by spiritual changes and positive thinking? LOLL

    you really would be surprized how many. I think its why this forum has been such a fail for so long.

    #13861

    Kent

    I think most people has been tackling this from a biochemical perspective except I guess a few who think it’s really a mind game. If there are people who thinks there are real biochemical problems at play I don’t know, clue me in since I haven’t been really active on the forum. But since the times of W. and early members who parted ways with the herbolove forum, the focus has always been on the biochemical side. Anyhow it’s a tough problem unrecognized by western medicine so we have to try to pioneer the solutions for by ourselves.

    #13862

    Sal

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    #13863

    Rogelio

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    If you can explain to me how meditation, spirituality, nature and letting go can heal the following Iam all ears.

    Cortisol Morning: 2.7 range: 3.7-9.5 *

    Cortisol Noon: 2.7 range: 1.2-3.0

    Cortisol Evening: 4.5 range: 0.6-1.9 *

    Cortisol Night: 1.5 range: 0.4-1.0 *

    Estradiol: 48 range: 12-56

    Testosterone: 721 range: 400-1200 (age dependent)

    SHBG: 50 range: 15-50

    Ratio: T/SHBG: 0.5 range: 0.7-1.0 *

    DHEAS: 231 range: 70-325

    PSA: 1.9 range: <0.5-4 (optimal 0.5-2)

    Free T4: 1.8 range: 0.7-2.5

    Free T3: 3.1 range: 2.5-6.5

    TSH: 5.5 range: 0.5-3.0 * <— think the range was supposed to be 0.5-5

    TPO: 16 range: 0-150 (70-150 borderline)

    * = out of range

    PSA = Prostate Specific Antigen)

    TPO = thyroid peroxidase antibodies

    #13864

    Reinaldo

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    Dude i really dont understand were your trying to get at lol , if it was as easy as nature healing us why would we all be here right now?

    #13865

    Cristopher

    I’m sorry, but nothing I say will incline you to do these things so why do you even talk this way? You certainly are not the type to rely on meditation. You need to fool around with supplements for more years to come and when you see nothing’s gained, maybe then you’ll start weighing another options.

    If you want explanations, try it for yourself and find your own truth. Don’t ask me, goddammit!

    #13866

    Leif

    You are here because you broke the laws of nature, and keep to do so.

    #13867

    Benton

    I’m sorry, but nothing I say will incline you to do these things so why do you even talk this way? You certainly are not the type to rely on meditation. You need to fool around with supplements for more years to come and when you see nothing’s gained, maybe then you’ll start weighing another options.

    If you want explanations, try it for yourself and find your own truth. Don’t ask me, goddammit!

    you keep going on about how your methods are the only way to true healing. your little motto is abstain, meditate forgot all other crap. But when i ask you to explain how your methods will heal a specific problem you tell me “dont ask me, goddammit!”.

    I was genuinally interested in hearing your answers.

    I suppose buddha wouldnt reveal his secrets to all who asked either i apoligize .

    #13868

    Reed

    Jesus said, “Don’t cast your pearls before swine”.

    #13869

    Benedict

    Jesus said, “Don’t cast your pearls before swine”.

    Guess its good im not religious then. OINK OINK

    #13870

    Brain

    That doesn’t rule out the wisdom of the proverb!

    #13871

    Melvin

    I really didn’t wanna get into this pointless argument

    but Nicolas.. some people here didn’t brake any laws of nature.. just wanted to let you know

    has never done any drugs, has never over masturbated…

    Same with nirvana

    same with

    Its genetic predisposition + everyday stresors.. things we have no control over…

    once the body is in a state of inflammation and/or sympathetic dominance and or neuro imbalance.. it doesn’t have the resources to pull itself out of it.. no matter how much you eat or exercise.. this is according to Dr. Crisler and Mariano..

    So you need an external stimulus to give it the needed boost… which is powerful supplements/hormones like pregnenolone.

    #13872

    Tod

    Of course this is according to the doctors, otherwise they would be without a business wouldn’t they 😉

    #13873

    Stewart

    drugs and over masturbation ain’t the only crimes. there is something they done wrong unto themselves. Everything happens for a reason. We sure love to play victims.

    #13874

    Rusty

    I thank Lord daily for being a religious guy….

    and its obvious how things are changing in this world and how materialism have dominated our souls leaving us shallow

    even in our societies the materialism have invaded us leaving us irritated and indulged in many things yet forgetting the purpose of being created

    youll tell me this is bullshit and i know that….

    but look to the changes around you….look to the figures

    In our countries the suicide is un-comparable to the figures of the western countries

    look to the criminal rate….

    if you would think that being a man of science will lead you to an end…then tell me did the science managed to discover where is the location of the human soul???!!

    I like doctor lins theory…i red many of his articles and i believe that his method will heal us

    i cant assure the success of his products neither any one because simply his products are made to be a sexual energizers and boosters…

    i noticed that used a good combination of supplements and i believe that his situation has been hit with the right proportion of nutrients and that’s why he managed to heal him self

    but the question is…did he healed himself permanently?

    how much does it takes to recovery from an ejaculation?

    [ 1- 2 days or hours?]

    Generally his protocol is more than good…and it worth a try

    #13875

    Leonardo

    Warning

    from now on , any disrespectful post that caries any sarcastic message will be delete

    Please keep our forum for discussion….keep it for grown ups

    #13876

    Gayle

    I think the forum should be open minded and if someone thinks his way is the only way then let him try it and report back. We shouldn’t try to impose our views on others. Personally I am with the biochemistry/genetic school of thought (with environmental factors as strong influences).

    Quote:

    That varies depending on your age and health condition. The older and less healthy you are, the longer it would take.

    #13877

    Freeman

    That varies depending on your age and health condition. The older and less healthy you are, the longer it would take.

    Did mentioned anything about his recovery from ejaculation…with such a legit approach it should assume its fast…because he managed to reach to his balance

    i do like Dr.Lin approach in addressing the sexual exhaustion symptoms… and i link it with other factors

    #13878

    Gerard

    You are here because you broke the laws of nature, and keep to do so.

    You cannot break the laws of nature, that’s why they’re called laws.

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    I don’t scientifically understand yet, are you not paying any attention? Stop being so naive and ignorant. Stop saying “us” you have claimed to heal yourself, but you seem to go back and forth from healed, to not healed, from you’re completely abstinent, to you’ve had great sex. Pick a side.

    You don’t know how to fix yourself either, that’s why you’re still here.

    1) I’m canadian

    2) If it wasn’t for americans this forum wouldn’t even be here. Take your European superiority complex elsewhere. The world owes a lot to western culture, if you can’t realize that you’re just being ignorant.

    I thank Lord daily for being a religious guy….

    and its obvious how things are changing in this world and how materialism have dominated our souls leaving us shallow

    even in our societies the materialism have invaded us leaving us irritated and indulged in many things yet forgetting the purpose of being created

    youll tell me this is bullshit and i know that….

    but look to the changes around you….look to the figures

    In our countries the suicide is un-comparable to the figures of the western countries

    look to the criminal rate….

    if you would think that being a man of science will lead you to an end…then tell me did the science managed to discover where is the location of the human soul???!!

    You’re using suicide rates and criminal rates as a means to evaluate the impact religion has on a country?

    How about this? The highest living standard countries in all of Europe are dominantly Agnostic.

    Another statistic? America’s population is only 16% reporting as non-religious. By crime rate standards you are suggesting it’s only the non-religious committing them right? How ignorant.

    The location of the human soul? The human soul doesn’t exist, how can you locate it? Biology rules your body. You can’t prove any different.

    drugs and over masturbation ain’t the only crimes. there is something they done wrong unto themselves. Everything happens for a reason. We sure love to play victims.

    Then you’re guilty of the same crimes.

    Luckily I don’t believe in your heebeejeebee stuff, so at the end of the day, you have to answer your own beliefs, but I’m justified in my own knowing that I’m a good person who is unlucky.

    “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

    Hey look, I can quote the bible too. I wonder if it has anything to do with 12 years of Jesuit education and world religion studies.

    #13879

    Boyd

    you hit it right on the spot there. the lifestyle changes , spiritual changes, and postitive thinking will not do much until you adressed the route of the crash. thats 90 percent of it. The other parts are just fine tuning and prevention of this happening again.

    who on this board thinks there going to get healed by spiritual changes and positive thinking? LOLL

    A surprising number.

    One of them being the guy who think 99% of the stuff on this forum is bullshit.

    #13880

    Quinn

    you hit it right on the spot there. the lifestyle changes , spiritual changes, and postitive thinking will not do much until you adressed the route of the crash. thats 90 percent of it. The other parts are just fine tuning and prevention of this happening again.

    who on this board thinks there going to get healed by spiritual changes and positive thinking? LOLL

    you really would be surprized how many. I think its why this forum has been such a fail for so long.

    #13881

    Kim

    I think most people has been tackling this from a biochemical perspective except I guess a few who think it’s really a mind game. If there are people who thinks there are real biochemical problems at play I don’t know, clue me in since I haven’t been really active on the forum. But since the times of W. and early members who parted ways with the herbolove forum, the focus has always been on the biochemical side. Anyhow it’s a tough problem unrecognized by western medicine so we have to try to pioneer the solutions for by ourselves.

    #13882

    Dwayne

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    #13883

    Jae

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    If you can explain to me how meditation, spirituality, nature and letting go can heal the following Iam all ears.

    Cortisol Morning: 2.7 range: 3.7-9.5 *

    Cortisol Noon: 2.7 range: 1.2-3.0

    Cortisol Evening: 4.5 range: 0.6-1.9 *

    Cortisol Night: 1.5 range: 0.4-1.0 *

    Estradiol: 48 range: 12-56

    Testosterone: 721 range: 400-1200 (age dependent)

    SHBG: 50 range: 15-50

    Ratio: T/SHBG: 0.5 range: 0.7-1.0 *

    DHEAS: 231 range: 70-325

    PSA: 1.9 range: <0.5-4 (optimal 0.5-2)

    Free T4: 1.8 range: 0.7-2.5

    Free T3: 3.1 range: 2.5-6.5

    TSH: 5.5 range: 0.5-3.0 * <— think the range was supposed to be 0.5-5

    TPO: 16 range: 0-150 (70-150 borderline)

    * = out of range

    PSA = Prostate Specific Antigen)

    TPO = thyroid peroxidase antibodies

    #13884

    Chauncey

    You scientifically understand, and you know how things “should” work but still you cannot repair yourself

    All the information rising hasn’t made us any healthier.

    You poor souls have no idea how to fix yourselves. You think that if you are just smart enough in tweaking with supplements, you can do it!

    Ahh this forum is so american.

    You don’t fix this thing with your head. You let the nature do the work. But people don’t really know how to let go.

    Dude i really dont understand were your trying to get at lol , if it was as easy as nature healing us why would we all be here right now?

    #13885

    Quintin

    I’m sorry, but nothing I say will incline you to do these things so why do you even talk this way? You certainly are not the type to rely on meditation. You need to fool around with supplements for more years to come and when you see nothing’s gained, maybe then you’ll start weighing another options.

    If you want explanations, try it for yourself and find your own truth. Don’t ask me, goddammit!

    #13886

    Cornelius

    You are here because you broke the laws of nature, and keep to do so.

    #13887

    Herb

    I’m sorry, but nothing I say will incline you to do these things so why do you even talk this way? You certainly are not the type to rely on meditation. You need to fool around with supplements for more years to come and when you see nothing’s gained, maybe then you’ll start weighing another options.

    If you want explanations, try it for yourself and find your own truth. Don’t ask me, goddammit!

    you keep going on about how your methods are the only way to true healing. your little motto is abstain, meditate forgot all other crap. But when i ask you to explain how your methods will heal a specific problem you tell me “dont ask me, goddammit!”.

    I was genuinally interested in hearing your answers.

    I suppose buddha wouldnt reveal his secrets to all who asked either i apoligize .

    #13888

    Ty

    Jesus said, “Don’t cast your pearls before swine”.

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