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  • #13173

    Shelby

    well there are some good docs out there, but id say the avg. endo isnt going to have an idea.

    the only way your gonna get help for have low testosterone and high LH/FSH (testicular failure) like T level of like 250, but there going to think you have enough Testosterone.

    but there not going to help you anways because your Testostone looks fine to them..

    dude you need the test SHBG done, dr. shippen gave me a chart to see where exactly your testosteone levels need to be for you to be functioning properly.

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    #13174

    Kip

    With your testo that low, I am sure that you will be able to find a doc who will prescribe testosterone to you if you just look around enough. A normal family doc will tell you that your testo is fine if it is in the lower part of the reference range, and a doc more up with new research will give you a prescription for your low testo if your symptoms match hypogonadism. Just tell ALL your symptoms to the docs and show them your testosterone test results and hope for the best.

    I would suggest choosing endochrinologists over urologists. Urologists mainly only work with old men’s prostate issues. Try to find a hormone replacement therapy spedialist, possibly a guy that is renowned in treating ED with hormones. I guess you could find one with a simple google search from a big city.

    And when you get the prescription, do not take oral pills, only testosterone gel on the skin or shots. Liver takes too much strain with the pills, and you might develop bitch tits due to overconversion of testosterone to estrogen.

    But, you are so young that I don’t know if the whole testo thing is good for you.

    #13175

    Grant

    Just got back from the urologist and he pretty much was just being condescending to me and made me feel like an idiot. Two things he said pissed me the hell off…He told me that testosterone and erectile dysfunction are not related at all, and he asked my why I’m worried about this at my age…I said well besides the obvious, erectile dysfunction can be a sign for other health problems and then he had the nerve to ask me like what. WTF…he’s the fucking doctor, why I got to teach him? I said whatever, nothing. After all that, he proceeded to check my prostate!!! OMG, WTF?!?! I’m never going to a urologist again in my life. He recommended an endocrinologist and that I come back to see him in a month, but I’m skeptical to do either. I cant go find another doctor because I dont have that freedom, everything I do like that I have to have my mother with me and she just wont do it because they all think I’m crazy and it doesnt help that my mother works in the health field(she’s a nurse), she thinks just like those idiots. How the F*ck is he gonna tell me a 400ng/dl test level for a 17year old is fine and that I have premature thoughts of erectile dysfunction because it doesnt happen at my age. NO SHIT, thats why there is something seriously wrong. I fucking hate doctors and the whole entire health field…I’m done looking for a cure for now, I’m not gonna live my life(especially in college) avoiding sexual contact with females because my penis is a stupid mother fucker… I’m just gonna do what does and recommended for me and get a test booster, libido enhancer, and a vasodilator for “penile rigidity”. Maybe when I’m older and have the freedom to do what I want you guys will still be here, and I’ll go try to find one of those doctors like Dr. Shippen or something and get healed.

    #13176

    Mitchell

    rave

    take it easy man it’ll be okay,

    i told you this before, endos and urologist are bad at these types of things..

    dr. shippen told me the same thing, its not that there “bad” docs, its just that theres no training on the hormonal level….

    i hope your not going to try to fix your self with T boosters and other supplements, yes they may work, but they also might make matters worse

    #13177

    Nathanael

    Max I understand that endos and urologists are bad for this type of thing, but those are my only options right now.

    No, I’m not going to try to fix myself with t boosters and other supplements, I’m just gonna use those for now so I can atleast have sex. I’ll just rely on T boosters and viagra-type supplements to have sex for now until I’m older and can go see a real doctor, you recommend Dr. Shippen right?

    Also how can they make things, worse?

    #13178

    Stanton

    thats too bad man

    contrary to what max says i say first things first get lj100 and stick to it for a couple months.. as you don’t use it things will get back to normal again, so might as well try it

    see how you feel after a couple days/weeks

    let us know

    then let’s talk about vasodilators

    #13179

    Vicente

    Yes man, have you ever got a prostate examination? I wasnt expecting one…argh. Never again…lol Atleast I know I’m not gay…lmao

    You say as I dont use it, things will get back to normal? You mean like when I stop taking them, things will go back to where they were before I was taking them right?

    You still just using maca, viagra, and ZMA? It’s still working for you fine? Hows the sex been recently?

    Also where can I get LJ100, where I dont have to order it online?

    #13180

    Jerold

    Yes man, have you ever got a prostate examination? I wasnt expecting one…argh. Never again…lol Atleast I know I’m not gay…lmao

    You say as I dont use it, things will get back to normal? You mean like when I stop taking them, things will go back to where they were before I was taking them right?

    You still just using maca, viagra, and ZMA? It’s still working for you fine? Hows the sex been recently?

    Also where can I get LJ100, where I dont have to order it online?

    yeah you didn’t get a hardon from the prostate exam ?? well i never had one but i can imagine its icky jicky

    yep

    maca not anymore, im horny myself, only zma and viagra… sex is still quick ejac on first try but longer than normal… yesterday second round i couldn’t cum it was great after 25-30 minutes i quit i said yeah im not cumming and i was tired and couldnt pump anymore (no physical stamina lol) so i just quit

    go to a local bodybuilding store and get controlled labs blue up or universal n1t try either one of these, blue up with the yohimbine or stim free version is also good, this also has other stuff for libido you can try these

    p.s. im getting l-methionine from the store and will try to take 1000 mg 30 minutes before sex hopefully this will lower my histamine levels and increase pumping time

    #13181

    Jame
    #13182

    Sanford

    Oh I almost forgot…they want to do some kind of scan, I forgot what it’s called, on my kidneys, pelvic region, etc…If I were to start to take the test boosters and such, would it mess with the scans? Also would there be any reason to go back in a month to get tests done again, or reason to see an endocrinologist?

    #13183

    Sammie

    the problem with treating to treat yourself, is you end up back where you started, only sometimes worse or possibly better.

    i know your in a bad position with docs but you really got to think this out.

    yes and did heal themselves, but both of them had dam good testosterone levels.

    im guessing your LH/FSH is low, now tongkat ali does increase LH therefore testosterone.

    #13184

    Ronny

    i’m not trying to “heal myself” persay, I’m just trying to do something to manage in the meantime so I can actually have sex for now, until I’m able to go see someone like Dr. Shippen

    #13185

    Christopher

    Oh why no more maca, because you ran out? Haha…You say you quick to ejaculate on the first try, so does that mean you usually have a 2nd round(maybe more) each time you have sex?

    yep 2nd round always

    i only have vitamin shops or GNCs, thats all that I know of atleast

    hmm try to get source naturals lj100 if your in the store or look around, i dont know what gnc is but i looked it up for you, and the only thing in it where they have lj100 is universal nutrition animal stak 2.. take this one but it’s more expensive then others.. look around man

    what does that do? I mean does all it does is lower histamine levels?

    yep

    #13186

    Clair

    yep 2nd round always

    How do you do it? Is it the viagra? Also have you ever done more than 2 rounds?

    hmm try to get source naturals lj100 if your in the store or look around, i dont know what gnc is but i looked it up for you, and the only thing in it where they have lj100 is universal nutrition animal stak 2.. take this one but it’s more expensive then others.. look around man

    Is source naturals LJ100 quality? I think I’ve seen Source Naturals Tongkat Ali…but I dont know what the extract was

    #13187

    Robby

    Oh, they want to get an ultrasound done on me. Supplements wont interfere with this, will it?

    #13188

    Kendall

    get an MRI on your pituitary

    have any head injuries or bad accidents?

    #13189

    Lyndon

    Max Nope…none of the above. An MRI on my pituitary? I dont know if I can do that.

    Max, you think after this test is done, that I just forget about it until I’m pretty to get real help? Or should I still go see the endo and still go see the urologist for a check up? He told me to come back in a month and he’ll retest my test levels

    #13190

    Samual

    How do you do it? Is it the viagra? Also have you ever done more than 2 rounds?

    -> yeah the viagra rules.. today i had sex without the viagra.. it went soft, so i asked her to suck it again and then it came back better and was able to insert.. second round again with out any viagra (wasn’t planned sex so i just thought we’ll see if it works, if not fine..)

    Is source naturals LJ100 quality? I think I’ve seen Source Naturals Tongkat Ali…but I dont know what the extract was

    -> lj100 is a general name/trademark for an extract of 1:100 tongkat ali

    thus, if lj100 is in a product, it’s quality

    #13191

    Gregg

    im not sure, u can go to as many docs as u can go to, maybe you’ll get lucky with one or one who is dam open minded

    #13192

    Connie

    -> yeah the viagra rules.. today i had sex without the viagra.. it went soft, so i asked her to suck it again and then it came back better and was able to insert.. second round again with out any viagra (wasn’t planned sex so i just thought we’ll see if it works, if not fine..)

    So you went 2 rounds of sex without viagra? Good job man. how soon to sex do you usually take viagra? And how long does it take to work?

    -> lj100 is a general name/trademark for an extract of 1:100 tongkat ali

    thus, if lj100 is in a product, it’s quality[/quote]Oh ok..is an extract of 50:1 or 25:1 any good? Or are they worthless? Also when an extract doesnt show a percentage and they have a ratio like that, is the bigger the number the better?

    Max I doubt it…right now I’ll manage with supplements until I can see someone that knows what the hell they are doing…

    #13193

    Nick

    So you went 2 rounds of sex without viagra? Good job man. how soon to sex do you usually take viagra? And how long does it take to work?

    -> yep, thx. probably half an hour before, then foreplay and then it’s ready to go prolly an hour with food, half an hour with an empty stomach, if you grind up the tablet in your mouth (not recommended since it’s a sort of time release) and mix it with coca cola/pepsi i’d say fifteen minutes

    Oh ok..is an extract of 50:1 or 25:1 any good? Or are they worthless? Also when an extract doesnt show a percentage and they have a ratio like that, is the bigger the number the better?

    -> 50:1 is also good, but i heard some ppl say lj100 is better so i would just go with that.. with the other extracts you have to increase dosage for more effect to get the same as 1:100

    #13194

    Carroll

    Thats cool

    Hey man check your case

    Quote:Oh ok…remember I’m taking tribuloid, ejaculoid, and stimuloid right now. They have the 50:1 extract, thats why I was asking…

    So the bigger the number, the better?

    #13195

    Delmar

    haha raven

    im reading over this post, i cant believe your doc said testosterone and erections are not related

    this is taken from dr. shippen sbook

    “IF testosterone doesnt have a major role to play in making everything down there work properly, then the design of the human body must be grossly inefficient , because everything in the gential, pelvic region that could effect the functioning of the penis is packed with testosterone receptors”

    show your doc that or better yet tell him to read shippens book

    #13196

    Jody

    Max No no, my doctor agreed with me…and said there is something wrong, so he recommended me to either a urologist or an endo. The urologist is the one that said testosterone and erections are not related. He said they are separate things. When he asked me why I’m concerned about this, besides the obvious(i wanna have sex), i told him that erectile dysfunction could be a sign for other problems in the body…and he asked me like what? I was like, you’re the fuckin doctor…you tell me. Thats when I just gave up and agreed with everything he said and he the proceeded to stick his finger up my asshole…argh…nightmares

    #13197

    Jarod

    Is it possible my testicular function has slowed down? I havent ejaculated in over 2 months and I’m not horny ot getting erections, even with the supps I’m taking. Or have we thrown that out the window?

    #13198

    Emil

    yes its very possible since its not natural todo that

    actually i think not ejuaclting is the worse thing u can do.

    ejaculating once a week is healthy, either ur exhausted or not

    i been doing it 2x weekly now and each time my erections get more harder and my morning / night erections returned, i havent had them in like 7 months

    #13199

    Domingo

    Max Really? Thats what I’m thinking, once I ejaculate…I’ll start getting erections again maybe. But I’m NOT going to masturbate…EVER AGAIN. I tried to have sex…but couldnt hold an erection. She was giving me head, and it got hard(not fully hard)…but then she would stop and it would go soft errr. So I dont know what to do. So you think even tho I’m taking these supps, if my testicular function is locked up, they wont work?

    #13200

    Ward

    i donno, id take Clomiphene if i were u

    #13201

    Barney

    actually i were u, id buy shippens book, print outa bunch of articles online and show them to ur doc and get him to test what u want and to get on Clomiphene or HCG…

    show them the testosterone results of average men from 18-25. i think the average Testosterone level was 650-750

    #13202

    Chance

    what are symptoms of ones testicular function slowing down?

    #13203

    Waldo

    i donno then; my parents would be more than happy to take me to see any doc i wanted if i was sick.

    if your sick you need treatment. if not than get use to being the way you are.

    #13204

    Osvaldo

    Max Both my parents work in the medical field and they dont see me as sick…I mean they dont know I have erection problems.

    #13205

    Clifton

    Both my parents work in the medical field and they dont see me as sick…I mean they dont know I have erection problems.

    have you tried to tell them about the issues.

    #13206

    Dirk

    Both my parents work in the medical field and they dont see me as sick…I mean they dont know I have erection problems.

    have you tried to tell them about the issues.My mother treats me like a child and thinks I know nothing about anything. I wont be suprised if she was suprised I knew what the penis was used for…I dont live with my father, and he is always busy. I cant sit down and talk to my parents, well my mother, in an adult fasion because she treats me like a child. I can go to either a urologist or an endocrinologist, which do you think would be more beneficial, or neither? Max said an endo wouldnt help…

    #13207

    Nicolas

    maybe, you have togo to a doc that knows you have hormonal problems, theres a good chance most docs are going to say your testosterone levels are fine, you might go to an endo and they will like your hormones are fine.

    see there are some man who are high testosterone males and some men that are low testosterone males. but your having problems of low testosterone levels. if functionally very well sexually and had t levels of 400 id say your just a low testosterone male, but thats not that case.

    but the range is going up to 1550, i bet most if not all sexually healthy males from 18-25 years old have 800-1500 T levels.

    thank god i lucked out getting in with shippen, he doesnt even care about lab work, his main focus is on symptoms. most docs are only going to look at lab work that are in the ranges, thats why people who have hormonal problems have togo through several docs before finding a good one, its a long battle but it can be won.

    find a doc here

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    or if u want to see an endo, speak with them over the phone first to see if they can help you.

    #13208

    Antonia

    So my best bet is to just keep looking for a doctor and skip the urologists and endocrinologists?

    #13209

    Reinaldo

    yes find one in that link i sent you is your best option….

    #13210

    Federico

    Ok…I cant see another doctor, but I can see either a urologist or an endo. Which would be better between the two?

    #13212

    Otha

    well shippen told me endos and urologist are usless for treating testosterone related problems because theres simply no training. he said docs just arent up to date or have the proper training for this type of stuff.

    #13213

    Parker

    Max This is crazy…so should I not waste my time then, or should I try and go anyway?

    #13214

    Arron

    well there are some good docs out there, but id say the avg. endo isnt going to have an idea.

    the only way your gonna get help for have low testosterone and high LH/FSH (testicular failure) like T level of like 250, but there going to think you have enough Testosterone.

    but there not going to help you anways because your Testostone looks fine to them..

    dude you need the test SHBG done, dr. shippen gave me a chart to see where exactly your testosteone levels need to be for you to be functioning properly.

    #13215

    Justin

    With your testo that low, I am sure that you will be able to find a doc who will prescribe testosterone to you if you just look around enough. A normal family doc will tell you that your testo is fine if it is in the lower part of the reference range, and a doc more up with new research will give you a prescription for your low testo if your symptoms match hypogonadism. Just tell ALL your symptoms to the docs and show them your testosterone test results and hope for the best.

    I would suggest choosing endochrinologists over urologists. Urologists mainly only work with old men’s prostate issues. Try to find a hormone replacement therapy spedialist, possibly a guy that is renowned in treating ED with hormones. I guess you could find one with a simple google search from a big city.

    And when you get the prescription, do not take oral pills, only testosterone gel on the skin or shots. Liver takes too much strain with the pills, and you might develop bitch tits due to overconversion of testosterone to estrogen.

    But, you are so young that I don’t know if the whole testo thing is good for you.

    #13216

    Norman

    Just got back from the urologist and he pretty much was just being condescending to me and made me feel like an idiot. Two things he said pissed me the hell off…He told me that testosterone and erectile dysfunction are not related at all, and he asked my why I’m worried about this at my age…I said well besides the obvious, erectile dysfunction can be a sign for other health problems and then he had the nerve to ask me like what. WTF…he’s the fucking doctor, why I got to teach him? I said whatever, nothing. After all that, he proceeded to check my prostate!!! OMG, WTF?!?! I’m never going to a urologist again in my life. He recommended an endocrinologist and that I come back to see him in a month, but I’m skeptical to do either. I cant go find another doctor because I dont have that freedom, everything I do like that I have to have my mother with me and she just wont do it because they all think I’m crazy and it doesnt help that my mother works in the health field(she’s a nurse), she thinks just like those idiots. How the F*ck is he gonna tell me a 400ng/dl test level for a 17year old is fine and that I have premature thoughts of erectile dysfunction because it doesnt happen at my age. NO SHIT, thats why there is something seriously wrong. I fucking hate doctors and the whole entire health field…I’m done looking for a cure for now, I’m not gonna live my life(especially in college) avoiding sexual contact with females because my penis is a stupid mother fucker… I’m just gonna do what does and recommended for me and get a test booster, libido enhancer, and a vasodilator for “penile rigidity”. Maybe when I’m older and have the freedom to do what I want you guys will still be here, and I’ll go try to find one of those doctors like Dr. Shippen or something and get healed.

    #13217

    Ron

    rave

    take it easy man it’ll be okay,

    i told you this before, endos and urologist are bad at these types of things..

    dr. shippen told me the same thing, its not that there “bad” docs, its just that theres no training on the hormonal level….

    i hope your not going to try to fix your self with T boosters and other supplements, yes they may work, but they also might make matters worse

    #13218

    Gil

    Max I understand that endos and urologists are bad for this type of thing, but those are my only options right now.

    No, I’m not going to try to fix myself with t boosters and other supplements, I’m just gonna use those for now so I can atleast have sex. I’ll just rely on T boosters and viagra-type supplements to have sex for now until I’m older and can go see a real doctor, you recommend Dr. Shippen right?

    Also how can they make things, worse?

    #13219

    Rolando

    thats too bad man

    contrary to what max says i say first things first get lj100 and stick to it for a couple months.. as you don’t use it things will get back to normal again, so might as well try it

    see how you feel after a couple days/weeks

    let us know

    then let’s talk about vasodilators

    #13220

    Millard

    Yes man, have you ever got a prostate examination? I wasnt expecting one…argh. Never again…lol Atleast I know I’m not gay…lmao

    You say as I dont use it, things will get back to normal? You mean like when I stop taking them, things will go back to where they were before I was taking them right?

    You still just using maca, viagra, and ZMA? It’s still working for you fine? Hows the sex been recently?

    Also where can I get LJ100, where I dont have to order it online?

    #13221

    Barton

    Yes man, have you ever got a prostate examination? I wasnt expecting one…argh. Never again…lol Atleast I know I’m not gay…lmao

    You say as I dont use it, things will get back to normal? You mean like when I stop taking them, things will go back to where they were before I was taking them right?

    You still just using maca, viagra, and ZMA? It’s still working for you fine? Hows the sex been recently?

    Also where can I get LJ100, where I dont have to order it online?

    yeah you didn’t get a hardon from the prostate exam ?? well i never had one but i can imagine its icky jicky

    yep

    maca not anymore, im horny myself, only zma and viagra… sex is still quick ejac on first try but longer than normal… yesterday second round i couldn’t cum it was great after 25-30 minutes i quit i said yeah im not cumming and i was tired and couldnt pump anymore (no physical stamina lol) so i just quit

    go to a local bodybuilding store and get controlled labs blue up or universal n1t try either one of these, blue up with the yohimbine or stim free version is also good, this also has other stuff for libido you can try these

    p.s. im getting l-methionine from the store and will try to take 1000 mg 30 minutes before sex hopefully this will lower my histamine levels and increase pumping time

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    #13223

    Florentino

    Oh I almost forgot…they want to do some kind of scan, I forgot what it’s called, on my kidneys, pelvic region, etc…If I were to start to take the test boosters and such, would it mess with the scans? Also would there be any reason to go back in a month to get tests done again, or reason to see an endocrinologist?

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