Hard Flaccid Thread

Sexual Reboot Forum Hard Flaccid Thread

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  • #9364

    Jc

    Has this already been posted yet? These guys over at PE started an entire thread devoted to hard flaccid recovery, I haven’t read it all yet

    http://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-anomalies-injuries/20460-official-hard-flaccid-recovery-thread.html

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    #9366

    Neville

    Frenchi, could you input your theory about the NE/PGe2 that causes hard flaccid?

    #9368

    Michael

    Sorry didnt even notice the question. I mentioned the theory on norepinephrine and pge2 on another thread.. but now i already have doubts that Dr. Richards knows anything about hard flaccid at all. So forget what I said about norepinephrine. Chris told me hard flaccid is most like caused by a combination of high E2, low free T/ dht, low cortisol, and clogged liver…. so basically everything.. and I think that’s the most reasonable thing to believe.

    I just checked out the old medhelp forum:

    http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Mens-Health/Continuation-of-Penis-hard-when-flaccid-thread/show/1122440

    The buddy9 has been taking large quantities of magnesium powder and applying magnesium oil on his body.. and claims that it helps hard flaccid tremendously.

    He thinks magnesium is a magic pill that helps.. when most likely whats happening is that its just helping his adrenals heal or something.

    He still hasn’t replied if he got it by injury or hormonal imbalance. If injury then perhaps magnesium has a healing effect on tissues. If hormonal imbalance then most likely its helping adrenals recover.

    I’m try large quantity magnesium too. He takes powder. I’ll start by taking 1000 mg tablets before bed.. if doesn’t help switch to powder and oil.

    Some dude even mentioned that he applies the magnesium oil right on his dick (not the head though – it stings).. and hard flaccid literally goes away. But I got a feeling his case is injury related.

    #9370

    Ian

    Yeah I never understood the NE part

    I have to test my E2 and cortisol and then we’ll get a confirmation on if it’s hormonal or not. I don’t know if I agree with the “Clogged liver part” my liver is extremely healthy.

    If it isn’t I’m going to try going to a psychiatrist and getting anxiety meds. Yeah I know they’re bad for you, but if it’s anxiety in cause, at least they’ll let me know.

    Otherwise it’s a pelvic floor disorder, in which case…. 0.o

    my dad agreed to ordering a cortisol 4x daily, Where should I get it from? ZRT?

    Although we’re going to try and see if my GP will do Cortisol/Free T/DHT/E2 all for free.

    He’s a dick though.

    #9372

    Mohammed

    ‘clogged liver’ doesn’t only apply to a buildup of toxins… it could also be a buildup of E2 in the liver that causes it to under perform. Which is likely the case.

    I’m 99% sure this is not pelvic floor disorder. You prolactin is high like mine, SHBG raised, your free T is probably low like mine, your morning cortisol wasn’t great.

    You’re just that you’re treating this on time, as opposed to me a year later… so your adrenals are probably not as burnt out as they would be in a year… and thyroid is still more or less in check. In a year it would be in the shitter. So the general pattern matches.. + tylenol doesn’t really do shit for me anymore.. so it would see we got the same thing.

    Your 4x and E2 will tell. Yea you can order from ZRT. $138.

    BTW the tyrosine has been helping me. Today i took 2 grams in the afternoon as usual, half an hour later hang was much better and more mental clarity. And I;m not even taking 5-htp. I’ll take 4 grams tommorow see what happens.

    #9375

    Dwain

    Everyone here has some form of pelvic floor dysfunction, that’s 4 sure. But sure it isn’t the only system that is broken. The whole endocrine system is in sleep aswell, which you can see as diminished hormone production and premature aging of the organism. In my experience, this is mostly a result of lazy bloodflow, an indication of low virility (due to excessive sexual performance and other bad habits). If your glands don’t get enough blood and oxygen to start with, how can they produce hormones?

    Best ways to increase bloodflow to your hormone productors:

    -Aerobic exercise

    -Deep relaxation

    Many other things are helpful aswell, but these two form the cornerstone!

    You may say to yourself, ‘hey, my blood flow is just fine!’ but believe me, you can really increase it dramatically. Also the tensions which block blood circulation are mostly unconscious, so you wouldn’t really know until you have made some premilinary work. Look in the mirror. Is your posture perfect, is it the posture of the alpha male? If not, there is unnecessary tensions in the body and most likely a diminished testosterone production. Our posture, gait and voice tell much about us.

    #9377

    Barry

    Everyone here has some form of pelvic floor dysfunction, that’s 4 sure. But sure it isn’t the only system that is broken. The whole endocrine system is in sleep aswell, which you can see as diminished hormone production and premature aging of the organism. In my experience, this is mostly a result of lazy bloodflow, an indication of low virility (due to excessive sexual performance and other bad habits). If your glands don’t get enough blood and oxygen to start with, how can they produce hormones?

    Best ways to increase bloodflow to your hormone productors:

    -Aerobic exercise

    -Deep relaxation

    Many other things are helpful aswell, but these two form the cornerstone!

    You may say to yourself, ‘hey, my blood flow is just fine!’ but believe me, you can really increase it dramatically. Also the tensions which block blood circulation are mostly unconscious, so you wouldn’t really know until you have made some premilinary work. Look in the mirror. Is your posture perfect, is it the posture of the alpha male? If not, there is unnecessary tensions in the body and most likely a diminished testosterone production. Our posture, gait and voice tell much about us.

    blood flow and posture will not fix your hormonal production. That might win dumbest thing iv heard you say so far. blood flow…..maybe just maybe slight improvment( possible ten percent at most…..most of us are gona need 50-60 percent imporvment at least)…….but posture……..just please use common sense. There are alot of people on here who are newcomers and dont understand how hormones and the body work. Reading stupid shit like that misleads them.

    #9379

    Reinaldo

    you know its pointless arguing with Nicolas…

    he truly believes that his way is the way…

    but hey Nicolas.. after seeing my blood test results you still think my issue is blood flow then I don’t know what to say..

    I’m sure you can recover from abstinence + deep breathing + whatever but it will take you many many years… probably over 10. (what will actually be happening is your hormones/organs will slowly be recovering while you think yoga is responsible for the success).

    OR you can just balance your hormones and neurotransmitters in 1-2 years and have the same result.

    I don’t know why you’d wanna go the long route..

    I’ve been doing aerobic exercise and deep breathing btw since the beginning of summer up until October or something.. and it did nothing for me but relax me.

    #9381

    Bill

    I truly believe my way is the way, because I’ve experienced a lot of physical and mental healing with it so far. It’s the universal route to good health. I think one problem is, that people try to fix an “sexual disorder”. This doesn’t help people to realize the whole picture. I advocate longterm superhealthy life habits as the foundation of healing.

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    I don’t understand a number in those tests so don’t really read them. Health isn’t measured in numbers, it’s an inner feeling of being well and in peace with everything in our life surrounding us. Blood isn’t the only issue. But I prefer talking about blood, because blood follows your consciouness where ever you direct it, but using words like chi and energy seem to irritate people so it’s better to talk about blood. When you feel increased amount of blood flow anywhere (in your genitals, brains, heart) you feel good. It’s healing in first place. The blood will heal you. It will wash away all the shit, and transport all the goodies to the cells. The effiecency of this system contributes greatly to the overall health.

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    If you are old then it will take longer and you might need more drastic measures (like supplements). But if you’re young the regeneration power is much stronger and there is little need for else than complete transformation of life habits.

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    I don’t think yoga is responsible, I feel it. It’s a direct experience, not based on belief or thinking.

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    Because patience is gold, and with time you can build something based on much stronger foundation, not relying on Any supplements.

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    Like with every exercise, mastery takes years, especially exercises with breath and deep muscles. Usually you do the breathing all wrong for many years when you start yoga etc. The results will be amazing after a few years of training, when you learn correct execution.

    This is my truth, why wouldn’t I say it? Because you don’t like what you hear?

    #9383

    Edwin

    Nicolas maybe when you backup what you have to say with any shred of logic, reason, or evidence people will take you seriously.

    #9385

    Sid

    “I don’t understand a number in those tests so don’t really read them.”

    That’s pretty stubborn of you to be dismissing my theories without even understanding them.

    How are you advocating that you’re way is right if you don’t even know any other way but yours?

    Open the internet and look up what all those numbers mean. And you’ll see that the problem is a lot greater than blood flow. Poor blood flow is only a symptom of the mess that’s going on.

    I looked up your theories before critiquing you.. it’s only fair.

    I been feelin really down last couple days. Last night went clubbing to see one of my favorite djs perform.. every other person there was rolling on mdma.. people offering mdma left and right. Alota girls, but most are too hyper/manic for a conversation (I’m sober). Way too crowded, people tripping out.. I had to get outta there. The lack of air, mdma all around me, and horny girls kinda made me sick to the stomach.

    So for the past few days I’m just kinda in a mood to break shit. A bit angry, a bit depressed. Obviously mainly cuz of this and partly cuz of my back injury because of which I can’t do certain sports.

    Most of the time I’m calm and not one to let my problems show or talk about them.. but other times like now I just feel like being angry/depressed/whatever because its actually congruent with how I feel, and have felt for the past year.

    I know I always gotta ‘make the best of what i got’ and ‘not let shit faze me’.. and I’ve read a bunch of spiritual material, which I enjoyed.. but at the end of the day this is how I truly feel and I feel like I’m bottling it up by making it seem like everything is fine.

    When people ask how I’m doing.. I just feel like being like: not good, my hormones are out of wack.

    Obviously I feel much better already that I got my test results and have somewhat of an idea of what the near future will look like.. but for the time being this is obviously always on my mind, and its fucking with me, and I don’t feel like being the funny or nice guy. On days when i got brain fog/ dont feel great I usually dont care enough but to answer 2 word answers just so people leave me alone faster.. but on a day like today, when I feel fine, I guess my testosterone is higher, and I’m just in a ‘dont F*ck with me mode’.. dont feel comfortable about my situation.

    Any of you guys relate?

    #9387

    Stacey

    Not only do I relate. its very similar to how I feel. I cant tell you how many times iv been out with my intoxicated friends and its just so weird, frustrating, depresing, overwhelming for me that I need to just go out and get some air. Somtimes I just end up bounching early. Where in a very difficult situation that nobody else understands. Thats the most important part, people will act like they care but in the end they really could care less and dont understand. this dosnt make them bad people or anyhting its very much human nature but its just frustrating as F*ck.

    I always try to take comfort in the fact that I know my hormones neuros, etc are outa wack. there is no doubt that alot of my mood swings, depresion, F*ck off attitute is highly related to whats goin on in my body. I mean i used to never ever get upset, would have to be really be something huge to knock me outa my good mood. I always remember what I was like when i was normal and just fantasize, visualize being healed and having all this behind me. Its just gona take a long ass time and its gona be a hard ass journey but I truly believe ill get there its just not all the cards in my hands.

    Its just a very tough situation for anyone our age. thats why im so motivated to figurin it out asap. If i heal my problems within the next few years ill still have most of my 20s and 30s before me to do whatever I please.

    Theres alot of positive to….the amount iv learned about the human body is ridicolous. I mean honestly by having to deal with these problems it proably puts us in the top precentage of people who understand the human body well….and theres still so much more to learn which is crazy.

    In the end if were healed……will know how to live our lives better then so many people. If i had continued my lifestyle I probably would have had a miserable life . But now that I know what I know as long as I heal my issues i think ill be able to live a much healthier more fulfilling life. alot of my freinds and peers are heading toward some serious health issues and are so clueless to whats happening to them . As a matter of fact i have friend whos dropped out of college this past semster and moved back home. He claimed he was depressed and unmotivated to do anyhting. Wonder if his huge binges with xanax, Exstacy, weed, alcohol, aderol had anything to do with it? whats his solution? goes to a psychiatrist who puts him on more benzos and ssris. Some solution. Then theres my ex roomate from last year who bascially has some form of SE!!! kid abused exstacy, benzos etc all of senior year and freshman year and now what? dude has serious precum and PE issues . Hes a good lookin kid to and gets mad girls and each one leaves really disaponted. I tried explainin to him but…..nope he talked to his dad who said ” every kid goes through that dont worry “. Guess his dad knows best right. I told him if he ever reaches the conclusion that his dad is Wrong and his PE is not improvin no matter what to hit me up again.

    anyway i think you see what im gettin at. this can truly be a lifechangin experience ( not tryin to corny but its true) . its just unfortuante that fixing everything is such a hassle.

    #9389

    Gilberto

    Yeah I was at were you guys were at but I took a different approach. I just don’t go to clubs etc. Temptation is too great, and it just makes me more depressed. However all my friends ever want to do is go to clubs really. So at the moment I just feel kind of lonely. I’ve got one buddy who doesn’t go to clubs at least, we weren’t that close before but to be honest at this rate I don’t doubt eventually he’ll be one of the only guys I hangout with. Kinda sucks.

    On a good note, my hard flaccid has been subsided, for a while. I’ve been usually at 90-100% for almost three or four days now. I’m hoping it sticks for a little longer.

    I know the last time this happened I smoked weed and it went back to how it was. That was after like a month of not smoking weed, this time it took two months. So I’m hoping if I just continue to stay away from the stuff I’ll be alright.

    I never really have cravings, but I miss it. Especially without being able to hangout with all of my old friends, sometimes I feel like just saying F*ck the world and just smoking weed and forgetting I even have this problem. I know though that it’ll just make me worse in the long run. I dunno. Sometimes I feel like just smoking a blunt, listening to an MP3 player and just take the pain away, kill myself or something. Shit is just getting worse at home, neither of my parents talk to me and I don’t talk to them. All they think is I’m not going to university next year because im too lazy, they want to lookout for my future. They don’t get the fact that if I don’t fix this there will be no future.

    #9391

    Ezra

    Js, ya man for sure some good is gonna come out of this too. Learning all about the human body + fixing PE for good + appreciation for health and life. But ya its frustrating as F*ck having this at this age.

    I wasn’t feelin good today but feel alright now. I think its totally natural being a bit frustrated/depressed at times. But ya I’m gonna use this anger to do everything I need to do as quick as possible to put an end to this. I’m gonna order all the supplements I think I need and pay off debts later. Was already delaying tests for months.. now more motivated than ever.

    And ya man I know you mean about friends constantly talking about pussy.. but I cant blame em.. had this never happened to us we woulda been the same way.

    Tech, I also only chill with my two boys now, so ya its kinda lonely. But in a way feels even better to have filtered out all the lame people from my life.

    If chronic actually made your symptoms worse then I’d for sure stay away. Just don’t cave in. Most of the time now I only blaze out of boredom because one of my boys finishes work late and I don’t really study anyways and there’s nothing better to do at night. At first I had cravings for mdma cuz every trip was so fun. So I ended up doing it twice more since this started for me. So that was pretty stupid.. probably made things twice as bad as they had been. Then I realized this issue isnt really going away and lost the cravings pretty quickly.

    Your parents are pretty hardcore.

    Anyway, it feels kinda good to relate that guy guys are going through the same steps that I am. Not that I’d want anyone in the world to experience this, but we’re in this together and will get outta this together. We just gotta follow a systematic order of things and everything will work out in the end. But ya this process is frustrating. Think its normal and healthy to be angry if you’re feeling so.

    #9393

    Edmond

    ya for sure being angry and depresed is normal.

    Im doing something similar to technical for nexy year. Im transfering back home , sould be much easier to take care of everything if im living at home, working, and doing everything thing I can from there. hes right when he says, if i dont care of this now there is no future, i feel the same exact way but im fortunate because i think my parents are finally startin to grasp that.

    Last couple weeks iv been like F*ck going out to. Its to pointless and tech is right, it just makes you feel worse. Until this is over im gona be taking the lonely route as well, whatever even when i go out i feel kinda lonely.

    I even got rid of my facebook, shti was fucking with my head to much seeing everyone so happy and carefree. hated seeing my ex and shit, F*ck that i dont need anymore mind games.

    #9395

    Jayson

    I understand the base logic but not the values etc. We don’t need to understand eachother. You speak and act for yourself. I do the same. There’s room for both of us. This is not a competition, who’s right, who’s wrong… We only speak what we have learned. If we don’t have respect for other approaches, who cares? You are studying biochemistry, I am studying holistic health. There is a difference. If I want to know anything about biochemistry, I will come to you.

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    Everyone knows tantra/yoga/chikung is the way to get amazing sexual health, multiorgasms etc.

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    The biochemistry of human is simply too complex to be studied, it’s best left to God’s hands. When I started my healing program back in 2008 I used supplements and studied some of the mechanics, but I become frustrated once I realized what a mess the whole thing was. I gave my expensive supplements away and didn’t notice any difference, execpt for the better; there was one thing less to stress about.

    And yes, poor blood flow is a symptom, symptom of blocked bioenergy pathways. I tried to explain this.

    I hope you get better, I don’t care how.

    #9397

    Jay

    Just don’t get too lonely or bitter if you spend alota time home. It’s easy to go down that road. First you don’t wanna go out because of SE. Next you don’t wanna go out because you’re that bitter guy locked up home and its out of your comfort zone. I went through that period when this started. It’s still good to go social places once in a while for a change of things. I just realize I shouldn’t go to mdma parties sober or anything extreme like that.

    And next year I’m only taking 2 courses too and gonna work all year. Make money to pay everything off and take some time to put things in order and figure things out. Still dont know what I want to do with my future. And you guys are right without this there is no future. This is the more important than anything right now.

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