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  • #4801

    Jesse

    I have been one of the people who after suffering ED problems stumbled upon Dr Lins sites and the theory of SE. Before that I hadnt even considered it as a possibility, in fact hadnt ever heard of such theories. My concern is the way he brainwashed me and convinced me of its viability and the way that search engines lure you to his various different sites. Did anyone ever stop to wonder why he has so many? Actionlove/ Herbal love etc.. Is it therefore possible that like me, so many people on this forum are convinced their problems are SE related because Dr Lin has cleverly planted the suggestion in our minds. I had a long chat with an adrenal specialist recently who has defied the conventional thinking on adrenal/ thyroid issues taking huge risks to cure his patients. When i suggested SE he laughed out loud and said “my dear boy your problems are not sexual exhaustion, your problems are exhaustion” Adrenal problems have led me to have hypothyroid issues. He said that if the body was in a healthy state then even after masturbating 5 times a day, the body would repair itself.. Also most of these SE theories come from China. A place that has placed huge emphasis on population control. A sure way to see that succeed might be to implement a theory that spilling the seed is detrimental to mens health. Nothing like a good scare tactic or religious view to control a populations behavior. Is it also possible that Dr Lin himself has grown up in a culture where this stuff is drummed into you so when his wanger stopped working, guess where he sought the root of his problem. This is my first post and probably you will all flip out, but i think its worth thinking about. My fear is that we are all being brainwashed in our more than vunerable states. My guess is on the growing epidemic of thryoid adrenal probs and that we should be looking at these as a combination of genetics, stressful lives and poor diet.. All men masturbate often, some way into later life.. Why is it that these men are not impotent and the guy at 29 is?? My bet is on genetics, diet and lifestyle.

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    #4803

    Beau

    I actually stumbled across his site at the young age of 14 trying to find information on penis enlargement. Then I started to learn about this sexual exhaustion thing and didn’t think it would ever happen to me until one day. More than eight years and a half later I have not recovered and seems to be only getting worse.

    I have turned my attention into poor blood circulation recently after learning that a poor blood circulation means other supplements would never be able to get to the needed areas efficiently. At this late stage I would get a hard penis at night sometimes, not an erection because it’s cold, no blood pumping and doesn’t feel good…but because blood got trap there and has a hard time getting out. Cold hands and feet, tingling and waking up with numb arms and legs or getting numbed easily when sitting down, are all examples of poor circulation.

    Chinese Medicine was not developed to control the mass but to treat the emperors and for the most part I found the system to be pretty accurate, at least in theory. As for some people seeming to be able to take more stress, have more sex etc., I believe it’s their good genetics and the diet of the mom. Some people are born with stronger neuro-endrocrine functions than less fortunate people.

    #4805

    Stefan

    Hi

    Thanks for the reply. Interesting hearing ur story. It seems to be a very sensitive area and one which I am still coming to terms with. I recently started taking thyroid support and adrenal support and things started getting better, but then i ejaculated few times and was back to square one. I notice these effects but when i present them to even my liberal minded adrenal dr he dismisses them as coincidence etc..I find some logic in what he says though about poor thryoid being a major contributer to overall body malfunction. This includes poor circulation. Did u check ur thyroid and adrenals out. Like take the 24 hr saliva/ cortisol test. This could be a major contributer to ur circulation issues. I have pins and needles allot lately. Do u get this? also my hand went numb for 1 whole day last week.

    Im not doubting Dr Lin, but i do see contrasting theories which seem to intervene with one another making this a mad puzzle to fathom out. I also think the power of suggestion may lead us to feel all our problems are related to SE, when they could be a genetic malfunctioning thyroid

    issues. I lost my father and my sister to sudden deaths, which knocked me out totally. I never really recovered. Add that to a genetic disposition to low thyroid and a history of recreational drugs and that seems to lead me to where im at now.. So is it SE or a combo of many different factors?

    If we got into this state from a healthy condition then we must be able to get back to how we were. Dr Lin has been helpful but it is very much a certain view, whereas other seem to have a different theory. But i cant dispute that when i first took his supplements and followed his ejaculation frequency things got much better. I am as puzzled as everyone about this but am 100% sure its hormonal and whatever i have to do now i will do. I was definatly addicted to sex also and was sometimes ejaculating 4 times a day. Whatever that cant be healthy for body and mind..

    #4807

    Alan

    I am convinced that SE = Hormonal Imbalance.

    The imbalance is arising out of malfunction of Adrenals and Thyroid. Something is wrong with our Endocrine system and our kidneys have become weak due to the constant ejaculations.

    But just like you I am also wondering if the solution to this really has to be so complex. We are living in a time when Medical Technology has improved so much. And yet the cure for our disease seems to a mystery

    #4809

    Lynn

    In response to drousia, unfortunately I have not been able to get a test on my adrenals or hormones after all these years. Having no insurance right now and being very stressed out makes everything harder.

    Some of my latest notes:

    Dr.Wilson’s supplements for adrenal fatigue includes adrenal glandular extracts, a multi-vitamin and vitamin C. Dr.Lin’s supplements consists of herbs, glandular extracts (or amino acids), a multi-vitamin.

    Kidney deficiency in TCM = Adrenal fatigue

    Stresses takes out of the adrenals. porn as a form of stress, induces adrenaline release.

    Poor digestion of proteins and amino acids results in poor adrenal function

    #4811

    Desmond

    see if you can get a copy of your blood test results

    #4813

    Mauro

    which bloods do u need? im due to get my thyroid ones done soon. is that

    what u mean?

    #4815

    Roy

    yes thyroid, adrenals, sex hormones

    see my sticky for recommend blood testing.

    #4819

    Lawrence

    looks like insulin problems.. to much sugar in your diet..

    testosterone is a bit low/ dhea looks well, thyroid looks decent.

    #4821

    Saul

    Max

    Thanx a lot Max. I appreciate your kind response.

    Do you think I may have Adrenal Fatigue?

    #4823

    Isaias

    you need todo a 24hr salvia cortisol.

    #4825

    Wilton

    I’m 31 years old and my problems started back in february at around the time these posts in this section. I’m here to tell you that I masturbated like hell all through 2008 sometimes as much as 5 times a day with some breaks in between of up to 3 or 4 days tops mostly, and had no problems until mid february 09 and then it hit me all the sudden, my libido just went out the window completely over night. It took me about 3 weeks before I could sustain anything more than a partial erection. I decided to see the doctor after the anxiety attacks and the sleepless nights started to kick in, had my blood work done and they said everything was normal including thyroid although I thought my testosterone level was a little low for my age 450 ng/dl but it only takes like 300 to sustain a good erection. What blows my mind is, if everything is within normal range as they say then why the hell has my libido not come back and my erections not to full capacity? I have read reports of other guys from other forums who have had their blood work come back fine and still are having problems with SE. I have managed to aleviate some of my symtoms by taking doctor lins viagrowth 3, can sleep at night now and the cold hands and feet have went away also can get a 1:00 erection but only by direct stimulation but not fully rock hard like I would like it to be. I wish every man going through this a successfull recovery cause if your there then you truly know what its like to live in this miserable hell.

    #4827

    Elbert

    Just come back to this forum and have read the last post. My feeling on why allot of people are not getting results from their blood tests is that these tests do not show accurate results, especially for adrenal and thyroid. I would advise anyone here to go out and buy Dr Peatfields book “How to keep your thyroid healthy” And please note i dont work for the man lol.I have been seeing Dr Peatfield and he makes allot of sense. He is also a trained MD not just a naturopath or self claimed guru. I recommend you to take the 24 hr saliva cortisol test, also check ur morning temperature upon waking and evening temperature before bed. Normal pattern is that morning should be higher than evening. And you should be around the 37degrees mark. I did both of these things and my cortisol was wrong way round and also my temperature were around 35.9 – 36.2. Morning and evening pulese rates are also good indicators. Normal range should be 70bpm. I was under 60. Having been taking adrenal and thyroid glandulars i have seen a total reversal of temp pattern altho my levels are still not high enough. I have now been advised to by Dr Peatfield to switch to Armour. I say it again, that I think the term SE is wrong. I am convinced we are suffering from poorly diagnosed under-active Adrenal and Thyroid conditions. The most damaging part of this being sexual function. I bet you all have a range of weird and wonderful symptoms but I know for a fact that the one that hit me hardest was the Sexual one. Even tho for years ive suffered from all the others. Sexual function goes when it hits severity. Of course then you need something to blame and decide the cause etc etc and hey presto we have sexual exhaustion brought on my devastating masturbation habits. With a healthy adrenal and healthy thyroid you wouldnt have any problems with your wood i think. Perspective is a wonderful thing and its a bit like chicken and egg, but if you switch it round you could say that the weak thyroid and adrenal function has caused you sexual problems, rather than other way round.

    I think we all deserve to be well, but id take the advice of a trained MD with a long background in adrenal/ thyroid conditions over a taiwanese engineer with a chinese herbal product line tailored to your needs.

    #4829

    Dewitt

    I will admit that doctor lins products are a major scam and that he formulates the pills to where it will cure initial symptoms like nut pains but yet to weak to bring your body back into balance. Its hard to really put a finger on sexual exhaustion and we all have it for different reasons. I recently went to a urologist and found my prolactin levels to be twice the normal range so there is no herb on the market that will have a profound enough affect to reduce it. I do have subclinical thyroid like symptoms, my TSH level back in april was 2.12 even though labs consider this in the normal range I have found out later that some doctors do consider this as a starting point to trouble. Masturbation alone was not what sexually exhausted me it was a combination of that with Caffiene access for 8 years, poor diet, sleeping habits and over work. Combine all these together and it will cause major problems. I notice that some people get SE before they even reach the age of 20 so I know these people have to have a fragile endocrine system or are really hard on themselves with poor diet and sleeping.

    #4830

    Burton

    Needz to Feed

    I would strongly suggest you take a 24 hr saliva cortisol test and find a gd adrenal dr who can help you read this and guide you. Are you in the US? Also read Dr Peatfields book. Im amazed that no-one on here has spoken about Dr Peatfields work. The body is a complex machine understood only by well trained scientists. The rest of us just have a few of the facts. Kind of like the difference between professional interior design and home DIY. Unfortunately allot of the medical training is not sympathetic for the more delicate readings of adrenal and thyroid deficiencies. I still maintain tho that you need to seek out proper advice. I wouldn’t take my brand new Ferrari down the rd to be serviced by some bloke who reckons he can fix it. I would probably fork out to take it to the best mechanic for that car. Same applies for your body. Yes research but find some support from a specialist in this field. Quite possibly you have caused this through whatever, whatever and whatever, but the thing to do now is sort it out. I dont believe ejaculation alone causes this. I think it sets in, once your adrenals are shot, then yes your sexual function is jeopardized. Also its to do with genetics and hereditary background. Come on man 8 years of drinking coffee isnt it. Unless you were taking like 20 shots each time. I spent years taking ecstacy, speed, coke and drinking enough booze to sink a ship. I suspect you have a genetic tendency and are deficient naturally so you need to correct the balance through taking what you are missing. I seriously believe now that ive been hypothyroid/ hypoadrenal for years. Maybe forever. All the signs were there, and now im working to correct it. Since being on the glandulars and working with Dr Peatfield I have noticed improvements. My premature ejaculation went. 18 years ive suffered that and that wasnt even what i sought treatment for. Also i have more confidnece, more energy. Im working on getting this sorted so that i can actually do the things i want in life. And you know what that includes coming when i desire it, not living to some self induced restriction. Depression and frustration is born out of living a life that you dont want to live. Research my friend and find one of those rare Dr’s who can help you through this complex ride. Also note he probably isnt that dude online with the magic all you need cure in a bottle. Ill keep you posted on my progress. Maybe im wrong, who knows, but I’m brave enough to give it a go and prove what is truth and what isnt.

    #4832

    Shelby

    Yes, Dr lin is a quack. He may know some of whats going on, but he is hellbent on trying to sell his products and exploiting us in the process and not in the business of actually curing people.

    I think people keep confusing sexual exhaustion and adrenal exhaustion. In adrenal exhaustion the bodies adrenals are damaged due to stress, the causes hormonal imbalances and as a result various symptoms arise including erectyle dysfunction, fatigue, diziness etc. in order to regain sexual health one must repair the adrenals. Using dr lins herbal love or whatever won’t do this.

    In sexual exhaustion people typically masterbate chronically over a long period of time damaging the organs tissues, nerves, vessels and so without allowing it to repair. People may also be on a poor diet and so on further not aiding repair. Typically weak erections, ever increasing premature ejaculation, enlarged veins etc are the main symptoms. In severe cases people can become impotent. However this can be repaired by allow the organ to rest(celibacy), providing the nutrients to repair(diet) and exercise(increases blood flow to organ and other things. It’s true, sexual exhaustion with time can be very naturally cured.

    #4834

    Emory

    May I add that, it would seem from this site that a lot of people with sexual exhaustion also have adrenal exhaustion. I only had se and then due to stress came down with ae aswell. There’s other people on this site with both.

    Most people with se only can follow the celibacy+exercise+diet and recover. Those of us with ae can’t correct our se properly because our ae makes us exercise intolerant. So we must correct our adrenals then go about correcting our se. At the same time, we shouldn’t further abuse our sexual health because it will only damage further since it is already in a bad state. sex causes tiredness and you want to avoid becoming tired while recovering from adrenal exhaustion.

    There maybe people here who have mild ae such that they can still function normally, perhaps they can cure their se in parallel. But those with truely damaged adrenals, must repair them first.

    #4836

    Kraig

    I’m going to an endo here soon to get tested its about three weeks away was refered there by the urologist dept. I don’t think I have adrenal exhaustion I mean I did but that was back in the winter when I over exerted myself. I’m past having cold hands and feet and all that with breaking out in cold sweats. I can exercise and do cardio without burning out. My only symptoms now are tinnitus, muscle twitching, white flashes of light occaisionally in the corner of my eyes and not being able to go to sleep easily like I used too. I used to be able to yawn and go right off to sleep. What kills me the most is being able to look at a naked woman and not being able to get turned on. I could probably live with having weaker erections for the time being if I atleast still had my libido but having both is hell. I have read other forums and found guys to be having the same exact problem that I have to hand stimulate to get erect but having no sexual desire. My prolactin level is high so this would mean a lower dopamine level but surely not that much lower. Would this be lack of neurotransmitters or nerve damage or hormonal imbalance. All I know is that upon ejaculation I cannot orgasm at all now. I just don’t understand this is a puzzle that I can’t put my finger on. My penis is still the same size in its flacid state and it would be the same as it was when I was 18 while erect if the blood supply was the same.

    #4838

    Foster

    Hi Gwan

    Interesting post. Im interested, as in the SE symptoms you mentioned about enlarged veins. I definitely had a big one pop up and never go down. I thought this was down to the topical steroid i was taking at the time. Did this happen to you? Also you mention overcoming the SE thru celibacy. How long do u mean and did you try this? Did it work? I went a fairly substantial period and nothing changed, but then i wasnt taking the adrenal stuff at the time. I came today and felt some weird pains in the groin. Wasnt very pleasant. Im still open to what is going on but defo focusing on the adrenals n thyroid. I might hold off for few days and see how different I feel. Was quite interested in Max’s theory of twice a week. Im not sure if total celebacy is the way. Of course I may be wrong here so interested to hear thoughts.

    #4840

    Wendell

    “Interesting post. Im interested, as in the SE symptoms you mentioned about enlarged veins. I definitely had a big one pop up and never go down. I thought this was down to the topical steroid i was taking at the time. Did this happen to you? ”

    I am refferring to the veins which feel like they hold the testicles. Depending on how much you have excessed these start to atrophy and become larger and larger. However through celibacy,excercise, diet and time these veins heal. A cold-sitz bath will also help correct this also. If you are referring to something on the penis body, I suppose the natural veins become more apparent, but not to the exten you are saying.

    “Also you mention overcoming the SE thru celibacy. How long do u mean and did you try this? Did it work? I went a fairly substantial period and nothing changed, but then i wasnt taking the adrenal stuff at the time. I came today and felt some weird pains in the groin. Wasnt very pleasant. Im still open to what is going on but defo focusing on the adrenals n thyroid. I might hold off for few days and see how different I feel. Was quite interested in Max’s theory of twice a week. Im not sure if total celebacy is the way. Of course I may be wrong here so interested to hear thoughts.”

    Note that I mention overcoming se through CELIBACY+DIET+EXERCISE+TIME and this assumes you do not have other medical conditions e.g. adrenal fatigue. before I had adrenal fatigue celibacy+exercise+a few months alone was doing the trick for me.

    I do not belive celibacy alone can cure it however it is absolutely essentual until the organ has been repaired to an extent where it can start to be used again. I was celibate for a few years however nothing had changed. when it had stayed the same, at least it hadn’t got worser. Know that everytime you masterbate/ejaculate the already weak nerves, tissues etc are abused further. Now when I started exercise I was still mastebating once a week and there was no progress. When I was exercising and being celibate I started to see improvements. If you are not celibate you are just doing more damage to an already damaged organ. Trust me, if it was excess masterbation over years which caused your condition, in most cases CELIBACY+DIET+EXERCISE+TIME will work.

    However you say that you have adrenal issues in which case your symptoms are also adrenal related. This causes sexual problems so until you fix that fixing your se will be difficult. I have adrenal fatigue aswell, I am trying to correct it, after I have done so I’ll correct the se. The adrenal issue has caused partial impotence in me and I’m exercise intolerant so I’m not able to heal the se. However I will be celibate because otherwise I’ll just be doing more damage to an already damaged organ. Moreover due to the adrenals the sexual organ seems to have compromised functionality and healing ability. If you have adrenal issues, don’t expect celibacy to correct se. Correct the adrenal first. After that do the celibacy+exercise+diet+time I think you’ll see improvements. From what I’m experiencing though, healing the adrenals is f***ing hard.

    #4841

    Wayne

    , what do you mean by “exercise intolerant”? and also how exactly you came to know that you were having Adrenal Exhaustion?

    i am just trying to figure out what is the difference between SE and AE from the symptoms point of view.

    with SE you get no libido and no erection… what happens if you have AE?

    #4843

    Sergio

    Gwan

    How are you attempting to heal the adrenals and have you had your levels tested? I am treating thyroid aswell as adrenals and have seen progress. When i started taking adrenal glandulars i got better for a bit , then worse. Dr Peatfiled told me this showed a deficiency in thyroid and said it was time to supplement this also. Im now about to go onto Armour to try and get my levels right. My body temp is way to low and this in itself will cause my Se symptoms. Are you guys taking morning and evening temperatures and pulse rates? What are your readings? These are good indications of adrenal/ thyroid dificiencies. Just now my reading came in at 36.4 my healthy gf took hers just after and hers is 36.9 (normal range) so i still have a way to go. Also my eves are still higher than my morning temps and this has to be reversed. I think your right, healing the adrenals is v tricky and i wouldnt advise self prescribing. Thats why im interested to know how your attempting to heal your adrenals. Have you heard of Dr Peatfield Gwan? Or read his book. I cant recommend this enough. You may be able to preview some of it online. Ive read it and seen the man, and i feel light years ahead of where i did. There are a range of weird and wonderful tests Drs like him can do to confirm low adrenal reserve. Thats how i confirmed my condition, b4 that it was allot of self attempts, including Dr lin. Who managed to suss out all my problems from one email. INTERESTING!!! A liitle knowledge is a dangerous thing. For example Dr lin had me taking suppliments with DHEA in them, but when i actually took tests with Dr P i didnt have deficiency of DHEA just cortisol, Can u see how dangerous this can be. Im not criticizing, but ive been there and i openly admit now I had no idea what i was doing.

    #4844

    Dean

    Thanx for your response drousia.

    Wow, this is interesting. According to SE and AE are not the same. And I actually do believe that he is right.

    Take my example: My only symptom is very very weak erections. That is all. Nothing else. So I am not sure if I have Adrenal Exhaustion. I dealt with a total loss accident all by myself and did not panic at all. For July 4th long weekend I drove with my friends from bay area to los angeles. I did all the driving with minimal sleep. The total distance I drove in 3 nights and 2 days was 1030 miles. My friends were amazed and said that my energy levels are higher than average

    This is where I get confused and makes me wonder what exactly my problem is

    #4845

    Darin

    I take a B-Complex with Ginsengs as a part of my regime to help my adrenals:

    http://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=67

    For anyone who’s interested.

    #4846

    Thurman

    why do you think you have a problem with your Adrenals? in other words, what symptoms did you experience that makes you think is related to Adrenals?

    #4847

    Ned

    “, what do you mean by “exercise intolerant”? and also how exactly you came to know that you were having Adrenal Exhaustion?

    i am just trying to figure out what is the difference between SE and AE from the symptoms point of view.

    with SE you get no libido and no erection… what happens if you have AE?”

    Dude, just search ‘adrenal fatigue symptoms’ and you should find the info you require. If you have se it doesn’t neccessearily mean you have no libido or erection although depending on severity you may. Once we start chronic masterbation over the years we notice prematurity gets worser and worser, erection gets weaker and weaker, skin fabric gets darker and darker etc. If this goes for years some people become impotent. Personally I have always been a horny bastered and never experienced low libido despite 10 years+ of se. Only time was when I became impotent my libido vanished. The symptoms may vary depending on the person because I was always a stud and think my drive was always around. People with serious adrenal fatigue cannot run, do sports because there bodies are always to tired or if a milder case they may feel fatigue after sports etc. This is what I mean by exercise intolerance. hpc, i dont think you have it adrenal fatigue but if you’re that worried just get tested to rule it out. Those of us who have adrenal fatigue it’s usually obvious because we physically burned out after a period of chronic stress. Those of us who have se its obvious to us because we mastebated chronically for years and can physically see the state of our organs. Hpc, you sound like it isn’t obvious what you have, maybe you could have other problems.

    “How are you attempting to heal the adrenals and have you had your levels tested?”

    Well I’m getting treated by dr lam mainly with lifestyle mods and supplements. Unfortunately I have been homeless for a while, I have relapsed a number of times and had many stressful experiences. Due to this I havn’t reallu had the chance to treat my adrenals yet. Initially though I want to see what I can do by removing stress and being on a good diet, I know others who have healed with this alone. If this fails I’ll look into other protocols.

    #4849

    Marc

    Thanks . Yea, I seriously doubt if I have Adrenal Fatigue. I just now went to Dr. Lam’s site went over the symptoms.

    Once we start chronic masterbation over the years we notice prematurity gets worser and worser, erection gets weaker and weaker, skin fabric gets darker and darker etc. If this goes for years some people become impotent. Personally I have always been a horny bastered and never experienced low libido despite 10 years+ of se. Only time was when I became impotent my libido vanished. The symptoms may vary depending on the person because I was always a stud and think my drive was always around.

    I agree with this 100%. I am just like you, a very very horny person. At the peak of my addiction I used to ejaculate to porn like 10 times in 1 day.

    I think I am just going to follow your protocol “Diet + Exercise + Abstinence” for a period of 3 months and see if I can recover from that alone.

    #4850

    Chet

    hpc, If you have se then the cause of your problem should be obvious to you. Did you masterbate chronically over the years? Did you notice prematurity get worser and worser? erection get weaker and weaker? Is your current sexual health a product of these vices. If the answer is yes then its clearly sexual exhaustion.

    “I think I am just going to follow your protocol “Diet + Exercise + Abstinence” for a period of 3 months and see if I can recover from that alone.”

    Before you embark on your recovery, read all the masterbation related chapters in this book:

    http://www.oldandsold.com/articles08/marriage-23.shtml

    #4851

    Jean

    Thanks for your consistent responses Gwan.

    Did you masterbate chronically over the years? Did you notice prematurity get worser and worser? erection get weaker and weaker? Is your current sexual health a product of these vices?

    My answer is YES to all of the above questions. Erection strength went weaker and weaker over the years. Right now I cannot get it up. I can no longer have 3 ‘0’ clock or 2 ‘o’ clock position erections. At best it will be at 6 ‘o’ clock in other words, it mildly gets hard and does not rise.

    I will surely check out the link.

    #4853

    Lindsay

    ,

    It’s all intertwined though. Sexual dysfunction in TCM is almost always diagnosed as a kidney deficiency (kidney being not just the kidney but the adrenals) and this often results from excessive sexual activities. Dr.Lin’s theories is based on TCM.

    Excessive sexual activities does not only cause wear and tear like you said but also drains the neurotransmitters etc.

    #4855

    Keneth

    But more than the theories and what causes what we should be more concerned about the results right? I feel like Gwan is right on with what he is saying. When I first came to this site and was wondering what might be going wrong I initially assumed that my neurotransmitters might be down. But later on I realized that nothing was wrong with it. If it were I would have realized it. I then convinced myself that I could have Adrenal Exhaustion. Once again the symptoms are not matching… All these things were a result of me trying to figure out the cause, applying different theories and subsequently decide which supplement to take. But so far I have only wasted my time, money, and energy. I now strongly feel that I have just exhausted my organ and I should give it lots and lots of rest. This combined with a rich diet and exercise should give some positive results. That’s what I am hoping for. I am no longer interested in finding what is causing this. I just want to heal myself.

    #4857

    Bernardo

    Gwan

    How have you found dealing with DrLam? I personally found him very useful online but then when i spoke to him on the phone. He seemed hellbent on getting large amounts of cash from me. $400 for initial program, then extra for the supplements, then he wanted me to pay $90 for each consultation and ended up saying id need to talk to him twice a week for 3 months. They also called me after i booked an appointment and then asked me to pay $10 for the phone call. I just wanted to hear how you have found him. Also what interaction you have had, and what supplements/ recommendations he made for you.

    #4859

    Olen

    I dont believe you can wear out your sexual organ. If you eat allot of food over 30 years, you dont wear out your throat. Same with your tongue or your nostrils. “I have a diminished nasal response because i smelt too much”. Wake up dudes.. If your not waking with morning wood, then your problems are hormonal and your all clutching at whatever straws you can. As ive said a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Separating SE from AE isnt necessarily going to help you. I rested my organ and ate like a monk for long time and guess what. Nada. What i am noticing however from my recent treatments for AE, is that one thing is paramount to recovery and that is sleep. Sleep by 10pm each night and try this for one week. Then see how you feel. I believe this combined with AE treatment or correcting hormonal imbalances will help you. None of you have reported you 24 cortisol levels yet are trying to say whether you do or do not have AE. I would rest safer in the knowledge if I had all the facts and readings in front of me. I managed on many times to convince myself ive had every known disease to man. You name it. HIV, Syphlis, and of course recently swine flu. Only upon testing did i find out im ok. Put ur minds at rest and get the relevant tests done.

    #4861

    Jed

    Unfortunately Dr.Lin theories in my opinion is still some of the most sound out there althought his supplements are over priced and no where near as powerful as he claims them to be.

    Yes , we all just want to recover and we’re wasting time and money with trial and error but there’s no choice. It’s only going to do you do by resting but the problem is, 2 months of staying away from sexual activities in this state is not equal to only 4 days of bed rest when you were not yet sexually exhuasted (personal experience). The body is not restoring itself fast anymore, and that is Dr.Lin’s bioelectric theory which he often brings up with an analogy of a car’s battery and it’s recharging potential.

    #4862

    Augustus

    “It’s all intertwined though. Sexual dysfunction in TCM is almost always diagnosed as a kidney deficiency (kidney being not just the kidney but the adrenals) and this often results from excessive sexual activities. Dr.Lin’s theories is based on TCM.”

    Not everybody with sexual dysfunction has adrenal problems. People with diabetes can have sexual dysfunction, people with chronic worry can have sexual dysfunction, people with adrenal exhaustion’

    can have sexual dysfunction, people with spinal nerve paralysis from an accident can have sexual dysfunction, an eunch can have sexual dysfunction. Let me ask you this, in the above medical problems is sexual dysfunction a ‘symptom’ or a ’cause’, it is a symptom. If you correct the thing which is causing it the sexual dysfunction will resolve.

    There are thousands of people with adrenal exhaustion who DID NOT ABUSE themselves sexually including women. Rather due to chronic stress and the like their adrenals became damaged and they have all sorts of ‘symptoms’ as a result.

    “I dont believe you can wear out your sexual organ. If you eat allot of food over 30 years, you dont wear out your throat. Same with your tongue or your nostrils. “I have a diminished nasal response because i smelt too much”. Wake up dudes.. If your not waking with morning wood, then your problems are hormonal and your all clutching at whatever straws you can.”

    I disagree completely. Not all parts of the human body are the same. Your teeth can be worn out due to poor dental health, your adrenals can be worn out due to chronic stress, your penis can be worn out due to years of chronic masterbation. The tongue and throat have been designed in a way that they can’t really be worn out since you can’t abuse them. Rather excess food can lead to other health problems e.g. obesity.

    I for one have masterbated CHRONICALLY since I was 10(probably earlier). I gradually watched my penis get more and more prematurity, erections get weaker and weaker, veins get larger etc. Other symptoms included nervousness amongst women, social outcast etc. However its always been obvious that my symtoms revolved around the destruction of my manhood. There were no adrenal fatigue type symptoms and I had normal energy for somebody my age. Eventually I became impotent. However a few months of celibacy+exercise would start to heal my prematurity, erection size etc. celibacy won’t work but it will prevent further damage. Also exercise alone won’t work but celibacy+exercise+diet+time will. Btw, people are forgetting, the main thing in this treatment is the daily cardiovascular exercise and celibacy together, Its the exercise which gradually pumps more and more blood down there to correct the problems.

    “If your not waking with morning wood, then your problems are hormonal and your all clutching at whatever straws you can”

    I disagree. I didn’t have morning wood or wet dreams for a very long term. Perhaps because I was ejaculating several times a day. During a while of celibacy I for one did start getting morning erections and wet dreams even though se wasn’t healing. However if you have hormonal problems and no se, then sure that is probably the cause of no morning wood.

    ” of you have reported you 24 cortisol levels yet are trying to say whether you do or do not have AE”

    I did get tested for adrenal fatigue by a specialist with both kineseology and some blood test. However tbh I didn’t need to. I was training to become an athlete and on top of the world and full of energy. Suddenly I experienced a few months of chronic relentless emotional stress and became bedridden. This followed with every symptom of adrenal fatigue plus inability to walk, run or do any exercise. I didn’t need to get tested(although I did), it was quite obvious what happened.

    You should distinguish ae and se if you have one, the other or both. To correct your problems you need to know the cause. I have both se and ae. diet+exercise+celibacy+time was curning my se. However now that I have ae I cannot exercise and hence focus on correcting my se. That is why I’m focusing on repairing the adrenals.

    #4864

    Mohammad

    “Gwan

    How have you found dealing with DrLam? I personally found him very useful online but then when i spoke to him on the phone. He seemed hellbent on getting large amounts of cash from me. $400 for initial program, then extra for the supplements, then he wanted me to pay $90 for each consultation and ended up saying id need to talk to him twice a week for 3 months. They also called me after i booked an appointment and then asked me to pay $10 for the phone call. I just wanted to hear how you have found him. Also what interaction you have had, and what supplements/ recommendations he made for you.”

    I must say that my experiences with dr lam seem to have been the complete opposite of yours. The only treatment he gave me was everything that was written in his adrenal fatigue article. He was guiding me on dosages of supplements e.g. vitamin c, pantethine, pregenenoline etc. However because of the stresses in my life I wasn’t really able to do most of the things in his article. I’m not suprised that I havn’t been recovering, simply because I’ve been stressed out for the passed months.

    #4866

    Frederic

    drousia, regarding dr lam. I’m assuming he asked you to make lifestyle changes and guided you on supplement dosages. Most of the lifestyle changes you can do yourself. Do you think the varying of supplement dosages made any difference for you? do you still take the typical supplements or do you think it is a waste of time? Better to just change the lifestyle factors.

    What was the main things which have helped you see improvement. Is it just lifestyle changes or have you been using medication? supplement etc If so what?

    Thanks

    #4868

    Rex

    I’m fully convinced that without access to bioidentical hormones most of us will still be in this condition 3 to 5 years down the road probably worse off than we are right now. As far as supplements goes I have taken Gaba, 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine to boost neurotransmitters and I still have a sleeping disorder. I can get maybe 5 hours sleep if that. I believe that most of us would fully heal in 3 months if we had access to the hormones.

    I think those of us with sexual exhaustion and not adrenal fatigue or Thyroid disorder just have some minor issues with DHT, E2, and Prolactin thats all out of whack and once these were adjusted the impotence will dissappear or atleast the libido will restore in a matter of days.

    #4869

    Earl

    , kidney deficiency does not only occur from excessive sexual activities. There are many ways in which a kidney deficiency condition can arise, such as over work, late nights etc. You can also be born with a weaker kidney/adrenal reserve.

    And yes diabetes and physical injuries etc. can cause sexual dysfunction too and that would be different from a kidney deficiency.

    #4871

    Hollis

    “Interesting post. Im interested, as in the SE symptoms you mentioned about enlarged veins. I definitely had a big one pop up and never go down. I thought this was down to the topical steroid i was taking at the time. Did this happen to you? ”

    I am refferring to the veins which feel like they hold the testicles. Depending on how much you have excessed these start to atrophy and become larger and larger. However through celibacy,excercise, diet and time these veins heal. A cold-sitz bath will also help correct this also. If you are referring to something on the penis body, I suppose the natural veins become more apparent, but not to the exten you are saying.

    “Also you mention overcoming the SE thru celibacy. How long do u mean and did you try this? Did it work? I went a fairly substantial period and nothing changed, but then i wasnt taking the adrenal stuff at the time. I came today and felt some weird pains in the groin. Wasnt very pleasant. Im still open to what is going on but defo focusing on the adrenals n thyroid. I might hold off for few days and see how different I feel. Was quite interested in Max’s theory of twice a week. Im not sure if total celebacy is the way. Of course I may be wrong here so interested to hear thoughts.”

    Note that I mention overcoming se through CELIBACY+DIET+EXERCISE+TIME and this assumes you do not have other medical conditions e.g. adrenal fatigue. before I had adrenal fatigue celibacy+exercise+a few months alone was doing the trick for me.

    I do not belive celibacy alone can cure it however it is absolutely essentual until the organ has been repaired to an extent where it can start to be used again. I was celibate for a few years however nothing had changed. when it had stayed the same, at least it hadn’t got worser. Know that everytime you masterbate/ejaculate the already weak nerves, tissues etc are abused further. Now when I started exercise I was still mastebating once a week and there was no progress. When I was exercising and being celibate I started to see improvements. If you are not celibate you are just doing more damage to an already damaged organ. Trust me, if it was excess masterbation over years which caused your condition, in most cases CELIBACY+DIET+EXERCISE+TIME will work.

    However you say that you have adrenal issues in which case your symptoms are also adrenal related. This causes sexual problems so until you fix that fixing your se will be difficult. I have adrenal fatigue aswell, I am trying to correct it, after I have done so I’ll correct the se. The adrenal issue has caused partial impotence in me and I’m exercise intolerant so I’m not able to heal the se. However I will be celibate because otherwise I’ll just be doing more damage to an already damaged organ. Moreover due to the adrenals the sexual organ seems to have compromised functionality and healing ability. If you have adrenal issues, don’t expect celibacy to correct se. Correct the adrenal first. After that do the celibacy+exercise+diet+time I think you’ll see improvements. From what I’m experiencing though, healing the adrenals is f***ing hard.

    #4873

    Cristopher

    , what do you mean by “exercise intolerant”? and also how exactly you came to know that you were having Adrenal Exhaustion?

    i am just trying to figure out what is the difference between SE and AE from the symptoms point of view.

    with SE you get no libido and no erection… what happens if you have AE?

    #4875

    Gus

    Gwan

    How are you attempting to heal the adrenals and have you had your levels tested? I am treating thyroid aswell as adrenals and have seen progress. When i started taking adrenal glandulars i got better for a bit , then worse. Dr Peatfiled told me this showed a deficiency in thyroid and said it was time to supplement this also. Im now about to go onto Armour to try and get my levels right. My body temp is way to low and this in itself will cause my Se symptoms. Are you guys taking morning and evening temperatures and pulse rates? What are your readings? These are good indications of adrenal/ thyroid dificiencies. Just now my reading came in at 36.4 my healthy gf took hers just after and hers is 36.9 (normal range) so i still have a way to go. Also my eves are still higher than my morning temps and this has to be reversed. I think your right, healing the adrenals is v tricky and i wouldnt advise self prescribing. Thats why im interested to know how your attempting to heal your adrenals. Have you heard of Dr Peatfield Gwan? Or read his book. I cant recommend this enough. You may be able to preview some of it online. Ive read it and seen the man, and i feel light years ahead of where i did. There are a range of weird and wonderful tests Drs like him can do to confirm low adrenal reserve. Thats how i confirmed my condition, b4 that it was allot of self attempts, including Dr lin. Who managed to suss out all my problems from one email. INTERESTING!!! A liitle knowledge is a dangerous thing. For example Dr lin had me taking suppliments with DHEA in them, but when i actually took tests with Dr P i didnt have deficiency of DHEA just cortisol, Can u see how dangerous this can be. Im not criticizing, but ive been there and i openly admit now I had no idea what i was doing.

    #4877

    Boyd

    Thanx for your response drousia.

    Wow, this is interesting. According to SE and AE are not the same. And I actually do believe that he is right.

    Take my example: My only symptom is very very weak erections. That is all. Nothing else. So I am not sure if I have Adrenal Exhaustion. I dealt with a total loss accident all by myself and did not panic at all. For July 4th long weekend I drove with my friends from bay area to los angeles. I did all the driving with minimal sleep. The total distance I drove in 3 nights and 2 days was 1030 miles. My friends were amazed and said that my energy levels are higher than average

    This is where I get confused and makes me wonder what exactly my problem is

    #4879

    Zachariah

    I take a B-Complex with Ginsengs as a part of my regime to help my adrenals:

    http://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=67

    For anyone who’s interested.

    #4881

    Cary

    why do you think you have a problem with your Adrenals? in other words, what symptoms did you experience that makes you think is related to Adrenals?

    #4885

    Derrick

    hpc, If you have se then the cause of your problem should be obvious to you. Did you masterbate chronically over the years? Did you notice prematurity get worser and worser? erection get weaker and weaker? Is your current sexual health a product of these vices. If the answer is yes then its clearly sexual exhaustion.

    “I think I am just going to follow your protocol “Diet + Exercise + Abstinence” for a period of 3 months and see if I can recover from that alone.”

    Before you embark on your recovery, read all the masterbation related chapters in this book:

    http://www.oldandsold.com/articles08/marriage-23.shtml

    #4887

    Dexter

    Thanks for your consistent responses Gwan.

    Did you masterbate chronically over the years? Did you notice prematurity get worser and worser? erection get weaker and weaker? Is your current sexual health a product of these vices?

    My answer is YES to all of the above questions. Erection strength went weaker and weaker over the years. Right now I cannot get it up. I can no longer have 3 ‘0’ clock or 2 ‘o’ clock position erections. At best it will be at 6 ‘o’ clock in other words, it mildly gets hard and does not rise.

    I will surely check out the link.

    #4888

    Nick

    ,

    It’s all intertwined though. Sexual dysfunction in TCM is almost always diagnosed as a kidney deficiency (kidney being not just the kidney but the adrenals) and this often results from excessive sexual activities. Dr.Lin’s theories is based on TCM.

    Excessive sexual activities does not only cause wear and tear like you said but also drains the neurotransmitters etc.

    #4890

    Palmer

    But more than the theories and what causes what we should be more concerned about the results right? I feel like Gwan is right on with what he is saying. When I first came to this site and was wondering what might be going wrong I initially assumed that my neurotransmitters might be down. But later on I realized that nothing was wrong with it. If it were I would have realized it. I then convinced myself that I could have Adrenal Exhaustion. Once again the symptoms are not matching… All these things were a result of me trying to figure out the cause, applying different theories and subsequently decide which supplement to take. But so far I have only wasted my time, money, and energy. I now strongly feel that I have just exhausted my organ and I should give it lots and lots of rest. This combined with a rich diet and exercise should give some positive results. That’s what I am hoping for. I am no longer interested in finding what is causing this. I just want to heal myself.

    #4895

    Stanley

    “It’s all intertwined though. Sexual dysfunction in TCM is almost always diagnosed as a kidney deficiency (kidney being not just the kidney but the adrenals) and this often results from excessive sexual activities. Dr.Lin’s theories is based on TCM.”

    Not everybody with sexual dysfunction has adrenal problems. People with diabetes can have sexual dysfunction, people with chronic worry can have sexual dysfunction, people with adrenal exhaustion’

    can have sexual dysfunction, people with spinal nerve paralysis from an accident can have sexual dysfunction, an eunch can have sexual dysfunction. Let me ask you this, in the above medical problems is sexual dysfunction a ‘symptom’ or a ’cause’, it is a symptom. If you correct the thing which is causing it the sexual dysfunction will resolve.

    There are thousands of people with adrenal exhaustion who DID NOT ABUSE themselves sexually including women. Rather due to chronic stress and the like their adrenals became damaged and they have all sorts of ‘symptoms’ as a result.

    “I dont believe you can wear out your sexual organ. If you eat allot of food over 30 years, you dont wear out your throat. Same with your tongue or your nostrils. “I have a diminished nasal response because i smelt too much”. Wake up dudes.. If your not waking with morning wood, then your problems are hormonal and your all clutching at whatever straws you can.”

    I disagree completely. Not all parts of the human body are the same. Your teeth can be worn out due to poor dental health, your adrenals can be worn out due to chronic stress, your penis can be worn out due to years of chronic masterbation. The tongue and throat have been designed in a way that they can’t really be worn out since you can’t abuse them. Rather excess food can lead to other health problems e.g. obesity.

    I for one have masterbated CHRONICALLY since I was 10(probably earlier). I gradually watched my penis get more and more prematurity, erections get weaker and weaker, veins get larger etc. Other symptoms included nervousness amongst women, social outcast etc. However its always been obvious that my symtoms revolved around the destruction of my manhood. There were no adrenal fatigue type symptoms and I had normal energy for somebody my age. Eventually I became impotent. However a few months of celibacy+exercise would start to heal my prematurity, erection size etc. celibacy won’t work but it will prevent further damage. Also exercise alone won’t work but celibacy+exercise+diet+time will. Btw, people are forgetting, the main thing in this treatment is the daily cardiovascular exercise and celibacy together, Its the exercise which gradually pumps more and more blood down there to correct the problems.

    “If your not waking with morning wood, then your problems are hormonal and your all clutching at whatever straws you can”

    I disagree. I didn’t have morning wood or wet dreams for a very long term. Perhaps because I was ejaculating several times a day. During a while of celibacy I for one did start getting morning erections and wet dreams even though se wasn’t healing. However if you have hormonal problems and no se, then sure that is probably the cause of no morning wood.

    ” of you have reported you 24 cortisol levels yet are trying to say whether you do or do not have AE”

    I did get tested for adrenal fatigue by a specialist with both kineseology and some blood test. However tbh I didn’t need to. I was training to become an athlete and on top of the world and full of energy. Suddenly I experienced a few months of chronic relentless emotional stress and became bedridden. This followed with every symptom of adrenal fatigue plus inability to walk, run or do any exercise. I didn’t need to get tested(although I did), it was quite obvious what happened.

    You should distinguish ae and se if you have one, the other or both. To correct your problems you need to know the cause. I have both se and ae. diet+exercise+celibacy+time was curning my se. However now that I have ae I cannot exercise and hence focus on correcting my se. That is why I’m focusing on repairing the adrenals.

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