Knowing when masturbating is destructive

Sexual Reboot Forum Knowing when masturbating is destructive

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  • #14594

    Filiberto

    I just masturbated, i couldnt hold it in. I was just surfing the web like any other day but something popped up and it turned me on so I just beat it then and there lol. Anyway, the point of this thread was that afterwards I dont feel tired or anything…I feel the same as I did before I started masturbating. Is that a good sign or does it not mean anything? My erection wasnt all that hard. Anyway, me ejaculating today(it’s been 3 weeks since I ejaculated, but 2 weeks since I started taking supps again). I’m going by the rule of not ejaculating more than 3x a week. So it could be once ever few weeks, but as long as its not more than 3x a week. How will I know if my problem is psychological or physiological? I’m hoping all the other supps will help the physical part and the 5-HTP will help the psychological part.

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    #14595

    Curtis

    When you are exhausted beyond exhaustion you don’t have much emotions and don’t really feel that tired after sexual activities anymore. You have little emotions/feelings and you don’t feel a difference after sexual activities. You don’t feel like going to sleep like you use to (perhaps due to no more serotonin being converted to melatonin after sexual activites). You still feel tired/drowsy if the say activity is done late at night or when you’re hungry.

    There’s really no such thing as a psychological cause of erectile dysfunction unless you’re talking about excessive stresses which naturally result in hormone/neurotransmitter imbalances which is physiological in nature.

    This is why we call you TheWhyMan by the way…

    [corrected for an error when I was writing]

    #14596

    Wilton

    Wow…man, why dont I just give up then. I’m never gonna be healed because there is no way in even knowing what the problem is. Everything is just predictions and assumptions.

    Quote:Wow really? So what is it called when one masturbates to too much porn and because of that they dont get turned on by real women? Is that not a erectyle dysfunction type thing being caused by the mind?

    Quote:Go ahead call my the Why man, if I have to be mocked because I ask questions to try to the understand my situation, so be it. I’m the youngest person on this site(i think) so I dont understand why I’m even going through this, this is why I’m so stressed about it. I dont know if you went through this at this age and even younger, but when it happens this early and you dont know why or how to fix it, its the most depressing thing in the world. I’ve had other problems physically(injuries) that have stopped me from doing what I wanted to and then this happens…it’s like the last straw. I dont even want to go on anymore, life is already not a good thing. It’s not easy to find your “fix” in life to live for, because whenever there is something, something happens that just fucks it up, for me atleast. I’ve contemplated suicide plenty of times, not because of this, but for other reasons…so when this happened its like the straw that broke the camels back. I just cant take it anymore….and if ya’ll are tired of my questions that I dont give a F*ck anymore, I’m out…

    #14597

    Perry

    Hey man, don’t start to think like that. This forum was created to spark questions and conversation. I probably ask more questions than you do and offer less input, because just like you, i don’t know what the hell is going on. One thing i do know is that giving up is not an option. We will get through this. it is only a matter of time. And don’t think for a minute that you are the only one that is depressed. I have been for quite a while now and it is driving me crazy, but i have to keep pressing ahead. There are other people out there to think of besides yourself. Remember that… Good luck, brother.

    #14598

    Josiah

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    I know how you feel, but I think was just kidding. There is a lot to learn and once in a while I’ll say “What the F*ck..I’m not a doctor…how can I figure this out?”

    As far as you question about feeling bad after masturbation….I never felt any different after I masturbated. When I was healthy, I would have bigger orgasm’s and maybe I would get more tired. Now I have crappy orgasms and don’t get as tired.

    But in general, I don’t think you can notice if you are doing damage. If you could, none of us would be in this situation.

    I don’t think any of us really know the answers for sure. Some of the guys who have a basic understanding of neurotransmitters, hormones, organs, adrenal glands, etc tend to forget how much effort it is to understand all of this stuff. I’ve gotten pissed of at the attitudes of some of the guys too and didn’t check the forum for like for weeks. Sometimes people are little blunt and don’t think of peoples reaction.

    I’ve been reading books for 2.5 years on meditation, adrenal fatigue, neurotransmitters, yoga, cortisol, homeopathy, colon cleansing, liver cleansing, diet & nutrition, etc. It’s a lot of work.

    Listen, once in a while it crosses my mind (suicide) too. But….as long as I am learning and haven’t exhausted every last possible option, there is hope.

    #14599

    Barrett

    sometimes some info can be quite contradictory. i’m starting my ‘path to recovery’book very soon. it will be one hell of a long-term plan.

    #14600

    Saul

    I meant exhausted beyond exhaustion as in exhausted to the point where you don’t even feel too exhausted after sexual activities anymore. This did not mean exhausted beyond the point of not being able to recover. Stop thinking negatively, your case is probably very minor compared to what I’ve been through. I gave my take on the question which I’m trying to say that when you don’t feel as tired as you used to when you were healthy, it’s because of a burnt out. It was meant to be a informative and positive anwser which you didn’t get. Then I just added Time’s opinion of your constant panic filled questions as a joke.

    #14601

    Bert

    Quote:

    Other forum members’ opinions are not necessarily mine. In regard to that, I would say that when someone masturbate too much and couldn’t get it up when they’re with a woman is due to hormonal/neurotransmitter imbalance/deficiencies. When you’re wanking you can still force an erection but without your hand constantly stroking it, it’ll go down when you try to go into a woman.

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    Welcome to my world and show some respect to those before you. You’re 17. I started suffering from this problem when I was only 15. Be strong my friend, don’t be a quitter. Remember when you said you were going to give up? You mentioned trying to have sex and couldn’t, well even though you couldn’t have sex you were able to socialize and got this girl in bed did you not? Some people can’t even talk with their own male cousins muchtheless a girl for god’s sake! Talk about social anxiety. You mentioned physical problems but you probably haven’t been through something like I did, I got into a brutal bike accident that destroyed both my front tooth. All because I was so depressed when high school was about to end and I reaised that I’ve loss all my high school years.

    You’re still in the denial stage, when you start to accept this problem you will learn to deal with it with patience.

    #14602

    Frances

    machine dr.lin told me your not sexually exhausted if your NOT tired after sexual activity

    #14603

    Christopher

    Max

    I don’t know about that…my experience has been the exact opposite.

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    #14604

    Bruce

    whats ur experience?

    that the more exhausted you are the less tired you get after sex?

    #14605

    Josue

    Max

    When I was healthy, I would have bigger orgasm’s and I would get more tired. I’d feel like sleeping afterwards. Now I have crappy orgasms and don’t get as tired.

    #14607

    Lorenzo

    yeah, my orgasms vary, sometimes there good and others a little weak, i dont feel that tired at all after ejaculations, i feel the same as before i ejaculated.

    when i first started healing and reducing i thought i was nearly healed with a month, now the last month or so i have been getting worse, like how i was before, weak erections and PE!, i still get morning erections though.

    #14608

    Bernie

    it seems we need to find a way to keep testosterene levels from going down the drain.

    #14609

    Vicente

    Has anyone else done a saliva cortisol check from ZRT. What were your cortisol levels? Mine didn’t show up on blood test, but sure showed up on saliva tests.

    High cortisol supresses testosterone production.

    #14610

    Keenan

    i don’t think its possible to get a saliva testing done at all. the best thing i can do is an am/pm cortisol test. But at this stage of my recovery i don’t think it matters anymore.

    #14611

    Carey

    , how is your recovery?

    since im getting worse, im going to stop all supplements for a little bit, then possibly start all over again,

    i think im going to ejaculate once every 5-7 days right now, not even urine is helping me now.

    this sucks, i thought i was healed like a month ago! i could easily last 15 minutes with a good erection, now i barely get an erection and its weak and i ejaculate within a 1-2 minutes.

    #14612

    Emory

    my recovery is really good. no problem with erections, PE, pre-cum etc…. just that my libido needs some more improvement. i still have to boost my dopamine levels. but i might try the massage thing 3 x per week first and see if that solves the problem.

    #14614

    Clayton

    what do you Take (supplements), how often are you ejaculating…

    i was nearly cured now im slowly folling down, i did stop and switch some of my supplements i was taking, i dont want to have to take supplements forever but i may have to.

    #14615

    Coy

    i may try l-arginine and like a good multi, possibly alpha gpc again, i dont know. im just pissed and depressed right now…bah

    i dont really care about exhaustion, i just feel im never going to ever have a healthy relationship with a girl.

    #14616

    Hosea

    this is my daily supplement regime:

    1- Ion- Exchange whey protein shake

    2- fish oil/borage oil/ Organic cold-pressed flaxseed oil

    3- Beverely international super-pack

    4- L-Theanine

    5-TMG

    7- acetyl-L-carnitine

    in addition I do:

    hot/cold therapy everyday

    morning cardio everyday

    massage x2 per week (will increase 3x)

    yoga

    #14617

    Fredric

    i may hit the gym and start up cardio then, i guess they”ll help a little?

    do you find L-Theanine and acetyl-L-carnitine to be helpful?

    why not l-arginine?

    What TMG?

    also do you have to take supplements forever? once you stop you’ll go back to your old state?

    #14618

    Faustino

    TMG- try methyl glycine . very good supp. helps with adrenal function as well.

    acetyl-l-carnitine:I noticed decrease in curvature, better memory, more cocentration and harder erection. forgot to mention that it is powdered form and not capsules.

    l-theanine really helps. i take it nightime and I sleep really well. you feel relaxed and calm. somehow my libido is slightly better after taking it.

    as far as l-arginine i will have to experiment with AAKG.

    I’ve been on and off supplements and felt good in both cases. I don’t see a problem taking them foreover. its like eating and bodybuilding. you make them into a lifestyle.

    #14619

    Jamaal

    maybe i’ll start off taking one and see how things turn out, i was thinking of ariginine then i’ll slowly build up with others.

    im getting off all supplements right now except a good multi.

    #14620

    Zachary

    but dont you get good amounts of each of these when you eat alot of meat?

    #14621

    Lou

    personally i think the protein shake, multi and oils should be staples of any supplement regime.

    if plain l-arginine doesn’t work trey AAKG or citrulline malate.

    #14622

    Reed

    “Studies have shown that exercises that build the quadriceps (the large muscles on the front of the thigh) increase blood flow to the penis by more than 21 percent within a mere half-a-minute. This tremendous increase in the blood supplied to the penis is equal to a sexual rocket-launching.

    #

    Exercise also increases growth hormone, which is the youth hormone responsible for libido and sexual stamina during the teen years.

    #

    More muscle means more testosterone. ”

    damn i need to start lifting and hitting the squats.

    #14623

    Thanh

    yeah and by the way high-rep squats are even better than regular heavy stuff too.

    i agree that you get a lot of stuff in meat but some people have blood pressure issues and you kinda need some cold-water fish and chicken/turkey.

    i got some organic free-range eggs yesterday. the egg yolk looks so different from that of the caged eggs.

    #14624

    Mauricio

    yeah, well i’ll try some new approaches im going to continue to take fish oil, going to get borage oil again and probably get l-arigine right now, and start some cardio and heavy weight training, i was thinking of trying alpha gpc again.

    #14625

    Austin

    i don’t quite understand you were healed just a few months ago. how did you suddenly go down the drain?

    #14626

    Trenton

    i have no idea man. it’s like my body used up its last possible fuel supply to give me good long lasting erections, its as if i burned up all that fuel.

    i still think my morning erections are the same, i did stop weight lifting a bit, maybe changed my diet to, i was taking fish oil, borage oil, zma, alpha, 5-htp, organs.

    #14627

    Jonah

    hmm kinda sounds weird.All of a sudden your system crashed?

    have you done any hormonal tests?

    #14628

    Rocco

    no i havent, im not sure dude, its crazy.. maybe supplements messed me up

    #14629

    Douglas

    yeah maybe taking all those supplements all at once messed up your system.

    perhaps try and get some hormonal tests done.

    #14630

    Ismael

    Well Max Dr.Lin is right. When you are exhausted you get tired after sex, BUT when you’re very exhausted you don’t feel tired anymore even though you are. It’s weird.

    Like when you’re straving yourself, you’ll feel hungry but after a certain point you don’t feel it anymore even though you are.

    #14631

    Monte

    I have done much much hours of research on the topic of over masterbating and sexual exhaustion. Dr Lin is very vague in his diagnoses and very quick to put down his link to his product order form.

    I have read through many of his cases/replies if not all of them. His theory of kick starting the battery here is exactly what he means.

    The master yin is achytcholine why this powers up the parasypthetic nervous system were the main nervous system connects to all the organs (Please excuse the spelling). Once your liver function gradually gets back to normal the liver converts raw proteins and vitamins into neuro nutrients seratonin, gaba, dopamin etc the neuro transmitters we have burnt out and your adrenal gland function goes back to normal the adrenal gland produces DHEA there fore testoerone which is essential for recovery since the brain also has hormone receptors. Older people adrenal functions get weaker with age thats why Dr Lin recommends they take a dose of DHEA to help them out.

    Therefor the bodies battery is recharged then it can rejuvenate it self but you must first drop your ejaculation frequency to 0, take a potent choline precursors such as alph GPC, acytel L Cartinine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, B Vitamins, fish oil, L-Arginine. To Gradually rejuvenate the parasymthetic nerves.

    In the mean time if your suffering from eye floaters and such take 5-HTP and or Gaba no more then 500mg of Gaba. phew times and stop masterbating in phew days this will go. Dont take Dopamine while or too much L-Trysine (which is weak) If your body is extremly sympathetic this will make is worse. Once you heal you can take a dopamine booster.

    Also dont think Testoerone alone will give you erections. Its the parasymtheic nervous that give you erections with also a healthy seratonin and Gaba nervous system.

    Excessive over masterbating or ejculating creates DHT a potent form of testoerone the DHT connects to the hair root folicals which produce male patern boldness. It also brings prostate problems and helps create Acne take ZINC to help that or just good multi vitamin. Drink Tomato and vegatable juices to flush your blood stream of this potent hormone DHT. The main thing you can do is drop your ejaculation freqency to 0 and it will grow back depending on your age you can also take Saw Palmetto or a good soy milk. Soy contains phytoestrogens which mimic the DHT and protect the hair root folicals.

    Another myth i have heard is to drop your ejculation frequency to once a week this is Dr Lins way of making people wait longer for recovery and order more products. You SHOULD NOT EJACULATE UNTIL YOU HAVE A SUPER HARD SPONTANOUS ERECTION THEN ONCE YOU KICK START YOU HAVE TO HAVE GREAT SELF CONTROL AND KEEP A HEALTH EJACULATION FREQUENCY.

    #14632

    Bryan

    Thanks jase. This is the kind of attitude I want to see, independent, strong and doing your own research. This is what the forum was meant to be for and should be like. I don’t like to see whinning, unprogressive and loser attitudes.

    Anyways I agree with you that ejaculation should be stop altogether until full recovery. Welcome to the forum and join the force for defeating this devastating condition.

    #14633

    Grant

    ok machine

    i guess when your “train” your body to produce and send chemicals and hormones differenently, its impossible to get them hormones all running properly?

    #14634

    Bob

    Jase so ever time you get a morning erection, its ok to to ejaculate that day?

    #14635

    Wilber

    Rephrase your question, I didn’t quite get it.

    As for the question addressed to Jase, if you’re exhausted and got your first morning erection in 2 years for example, then it is not really smart to ejaculate on that day. What Jase is saying is that ejaculation must be stopped until complete recovery, Dr.Lin also said this a few times.

    #14636

    Maximo

    this is my daily supplement regime:

    1- Ion- Exchange whey protein shake

    2- fish oil/borage oil/ Organic cold-pressed flaxseed oil

    3- Beverely international super-pack

    4- L-Theanine

    5-TMG

    7- acetyl-L-carnitine

    in addition I do:

    hot/cold therapy everyday

    morning cardio everyday

    massage x2 per week (will increase 3x)

    yoga

    #14637

    Asa

    i may hit the gym and start up cardio then, i guess they”ll help a little?

    do you find L-Theanine and acetyl-L-carnitine to be helpful?

    why not l-arginine?

    What TMG?

    also do you have to take supplements forever? once you stop you’ll go back to your old state?

    #14638

    Sam

    TMG- try methyl glycine . very good supp. helps with adrenal function as well.

    acetyl-l-carnitine:I noticed decrease in curvature, better memory, more cocentration and harder erection. forgot to mention that it is powdered form and not capsules.

    l-theanine really helps. i take it nightime and I sleep really well. you feel relaxed and calm. somehow my libido is slightly better after taking it.

    as far as l-arginine i will have to experiment with AAKG.

    I’ve been on and off supplements and felt good in both cases. I don’t see a problem taking them foreover. its like eating and bodybuilding. you make them into a lifestyle.

    #14640

    Rolland

    maybe i’ll start off taking one and see how things turn out, i was thinking of ariginine then i’ll slowly build up with others.

    im getting off all supplements right now except a good multi.

    #14641

    Valentine

    but dont you get good amounts of each of these when you eat alot of meat?

    #14642

    Dalton

    personally i think the protein shake, multi and oils should be staples of any supplement regime.

    if plain l-arginine doesn’t work trey AAKG or citrulline malate.

    #14643

    Roland

    “Studies have shown that exercises that build the quadriceps (the large muscles on the front of the thigh) increase blood flow to the penis by more than 21 percent within a mere half-a-minute. This tremendous increase in the blood supplied to the penis is equal to a sexual rocket-launching.

    #

    Exercise also increases growth hormone, which is the youth hormone responsible for libido and sexual stamina during the teen years.

    #

    More muscle means more testosterone. ”

    damn i need to start lifting and hitting the squats.

    #14644

    Jacob

    yeah and by the way high-rep squats are even better than regular heavy stuff too.

    i agree that you get a lot of stuff in meat but some people have blood pressure issues and you kinda need some cold-water fish and chicken/turkey.

    i got some organic free-range eggs yesterday. the egg yolk looks so different from that of the caged eggs.

    #14645

    Samuel

    yeah, well i’ll try some new approaches im going to continue to take fish oil, going to get borage oil again and probably get l-arigine right now, and start some cardio and heavy weight training, i was thinking of trying alpha gpc again.

    #14647

    Terrence

    i don’t quite understand you were healed just a few months ago. how did you suddenly go down the drain?

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