Sexual Reboot Forum › Low Epinephrine & low Progesterone => Adrenal Fatigue
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September 14, 2013 at 4:30 pm #4207
With my low Epinephrine & low Progesterone, Adrenal Fatigue is definately a major part of my problem.
I also have the low blood pressure, balding lower legs, and many of the symptoms lists on the above link.
I would be good is someone else would try the test from Integrative Psychiatry to see if it’s just me of if adrenal fatigue is part of the problem for others.There is another way that you can stop porn addiction, chronic masturbation and recover your sexual health without fighting it with willpower. With the right mindset you won't even relapse. You can learn more about the recovery program hereSeptember 14, 2013 at 4:31 pm #4209
I think it would nice if you can compare your urine tests with the Braveman tests.
the problem I see with neurotransmitter testing is that they change from minute to minute.September 14, 2013 at 4:32 pm #4211
True. But a urine test should provide more of an averaging than an instantaneous reading.
One thing about the Braverman test is that other problems can cause some of the same symptoms. For example, a couple of months ago, I scored very high on GABA deficiency. But….my saliva test showed that I am very low in Progesterone, which is “the calming hormone”. So was my GABA score due to low progesterone of low GABA.
Likewise, I would imagine the energy boost from Epinephrine is similar to Dopamine. So my low Dopamine score on the Braverman test may be a result of my low Epinephrine, and not low Dopamine.September 14, 2013 at 4:33 pm #4212
Check out this study. Epinephrine (adrenalin) spikes with orgasm.
This could be why heavy weightlifting seems to make SE worse. If a part of SE is burning out your adrenal glands from asking it to produce epinephrine too often, weight lifting may add to this stress.
Hell, I used to work out for a couple of hours and then go home and masturbate to the hot chicks I saw at the gym. No wonder my adrenals are shot.September 14, 2013 at 4:33 pm #4213
weight-lifting will also affect other hormones below:
2. Growth hormone
but, Having high epinephrine levels for short times is beneficial because it will positively influence GH balance and hold back excessive cortisol production.
the downside to epinephrine is that it negates the effect of insulin. By turning blood-glucose into stored glycogen, you can create a higher energy potential and faster recovery. Epinephrine does the opposite, it will rob tissue of glycogen and turns it into free glucose. If this goes on long enough, you will deplete your recovery reserves.
That’s why short intense bursts of training are usually preferred over long moderate exercise. this is true for both cardio and weight-lifting.September 14, 2013 at 4:34 pm #4214
Actually, moderate exercise has been shown to increase longevity, whereas intense exercise has been shown to decrease longevity.
I did intense exercise and masturbation for years…..and now my Epinephrine is low. Hence the adrenal fatigue.
I looked into the role of Epinephrine in arousal. It plays a very key role.
This could explain the lack of emotion that many of us have, and lack of arousal.
We need someone else to get their Epinephrine checked to see if it is low. I am convinced adrenal fatigue is a part of the problem.September 14, 2013 at 4:35 pm #4216
what are you doing for your adrenal fatigue?
dr. romeo is prolly dam good at treating adrenal fatigue.September 14, 2013 at 4:36 pm #4218
I have to agree and disagree with that statement.
Harvard Alumni Health Study
Exercise intensity and longevity in men. The Harvard Alumni Health Study
I. M. Lee, C. C. Hsieh and R. S. Paffenbarger Jr
Department of Epidemiology, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, MA 02115, USA.
OBJECTIVE–To examine the independent associations of vigorous (> or = 6 resting metabolic rate [MET] score) and nonvigorous (< 6 MET score) physical activity with longevity. DESIGN–Prospective cohort study, following up men from 1962 or 1966 through 1988. SETTING/PARTICIPANTS–Subjects were Harvard University alumni, without self-reported, physician-diagnosed cardiovascular disease, cancer, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (n = 17,321). Men with a mean age of 46 years reported their physical activities on questionnaires at baseline. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE–All-cause mortality (3728 deaths). RESULTS–Total energy expenditure and energy expenditure from vigorous activities, but not energy expenditure from nonvigorous activities, related inversely to mortality. After adjustment for potential confounders, the relative risks of dying associated with increasing quintiles of total energy expenditure were 1.00 (referent), 0.94, 0.95, 0.91 and 0.91, respectively (P [trend] < .05). The relative risks of dying associated with less than 630, 630 to less than 1680, 1680 to less than 3150, 3150 to less than 6300, and 6300 or more kJ/wk expended on vigorous activities were 1.00 (referent), 0.88, 0.92, 0.87, and 0.87, respectively (P [trend] = .007). Corresponding relative risks for energy expended on nonvigorous activities were 1.00 (referent), 0.89, 1.00, 0.98, and 0.92, respectively (P [trend] = .36). Analyses of vigorous and nonvigorous activities were mutually adjusted. Among men who reported only vigorous activities (259 deaths), we observed decreasing age-standardized mortality rates with increasing activity (P = .05); among men who reported only nonvigorous activities (380 deaths), no trend was apparent (P = .99). CONCLUSIONS–These data demonstrate a graded inverse relationship between total physical activity and mortality. Furthermore, vigorous activities but not nonvigorous activities were associated with longevity. These findings pertain only to all-cause mortality; nonvigorous exercise has been shown to benefit other aspects of health.
A later analysis of the data showed a protective effect against coronary artery disease specifically
Conclusions—Total physical activity and vigorous activities showed the strongest reductions in CHD risk. Moderate and light activities, which may be less precisely measured, showed nonsignificant inverse associations. The association between physical activity and a reduced risk of CHD also extends to men with multiple coronary risk factors.
Then there’s the Stanford University study
Physical Fitness Level: Best Predictor of Death in Men
After adjusting for age, the best predictor of death among all subjects was peak exercise capacity, measured in metabolic equivalents, or MET… Among all subjects, researchers calculated that a 1-MET increase in exercise capacity yielded a 12 percent improvement in survival.
And the same thing is observed in women
There is a good summary here
Within limits, exercise’s protective effects tend to expand as you increase your quantity of exercise. Jogging just 10 miles per week improves your chances of living longer rather dramatically, compared to completing no exercise at all. Covering 25 to 30 miles each week lowers your risk of dying even more. Beyond 30 miles, though, there’s little evidence that more miles limit the grim reaper’s activities any further.
Ralph Paffenbarger, M.D., one of principal investigators in the Harvard Alumni Study, summarises the benefits of exercise with a neat formula: For each hour that a person exercises, he/she gets roughly two extra hours of life! Paffenbarger’s proposition is true only for reasonable amounts of exercise, though (probably for up to 30 weekly miles of running). Otherwise, immortality could be ‘purchased’ simply by exercising for slightly more than 12 hours each day, which would ‘buy back’ the lost 24-hour period.
The type of exercise you choose matters when it comes to longevity. Recent research from Finland indicates that individuals who engage in endurance activities (running, cycling, swimming, cross country skiing, walking) live about six years longer than couch potatoes. In contrast, those who prefer team sports like basketball, ice hockey, or soccer live just four years more. And sports-active people who prefer ‘power-type’ activities, including weight lifting, field events, and sprinting, last for only two additional years.
However, most of the increase in lifespan enjoyed by the Finnish team-sport and power athletes is due to social status, not athletic activity (team and power athletes tend to enjoy greater social status than sedentary people, which gives them better living conditions, higher-quality food, and superior health care). When the influence of social status is removed from the analysis, only athletic-minded individuals who routinely engage in endurance-type activities enjoy greater longevity than the Finnish non-exercisers. The key difference is that participation in endurance exercise makes it highly unlikely that someone will keel over between the ages of 50 and 69. Such deaths, which occur more frequently in the team-sport, power-sport, and sedentary groups, are shifted into the seventh decade of life in those who huff and puff while running, skiing, cycling, or walking several times each week.
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I think that whatever effect endurance exercise has on intrinsic aging is practically moot and I believe that staying away from intense exercise, for this reason, is a bad idea. Intense training causes neural growth and this is important to those who have parkinson’s/Alzhemier’s disease.
But the line between optimum training and over training is a thin one and it is greatly linked with genetics, diet, available rest, recovery time, mental state etc…
I guess weight-lifting has always been my cigarette or my joint or whatever vices people have.
As for your point about adrenal fatigue, I think that it does play a role in SD, but we need to see the big picture. I think it should be done on a case-by-case basis.September 14, 2013 at 4:37 pm #4220
Don’t you have an exam to study for!
Perhaps it is the definitions intense vs excessive exercise. Exercise has to be intense enough to give your cardiovascular system a bit of a workout, which is how it improves longevity.
It is a fine line. And I’m quite sure I was crossing it even without the masturbation.
And for adrenal fatigue. I don’t have a problem looking at the big picture. But I’ve got several lab results showing that the hormones & neurotransmitters made by the adrenals are out of whack. I have no doubt that this will affect other organs in the endocrine system, since the are all related.September 14, 2013 at 4:37 pm #4222
Good postSeptember 14, 2013 at 4:39 pm #4224
LOL. according to those studies I should have lost my vigor and felt anger/ anxiety etc…… and have all sorts of illnesses and diseases because of my ”intense” short bursts of training and suppressed immune system. Its been 8 years since I last had a disease so I have to disappoint the doc.
anyhow I think trying to establish guidelines on what is considered ”intense” or ”how many sessions to train/exercise per week” in these sorts of things is a waste of time. most of the research stuff is limited in scope and in the end, trial and error matters the most.September 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm #4225
Frank, how did you react on tyrosine? I know phenyalanine didn’t do much for you.September 14, 2013 at 4:41 pm #4226
I haven’t tried tyrosine, other than what is in my Whey protein.September 14, 2013 at 4:41 pm #4228
If you considere this as a “lack of concentration” or “somnolence”, i’m in the same case and that’s my worse f…. symptom.
I can’t says if my epinephrine is high or low beacause i have poor concentration AND stress/anxiety/restlessness (but can’t gain weight)
Anyway, i suppose that the vigilance/concentration is destroyed by a low dopamine level too. The question is how to slow down the catechalominergic turn-over.September 14, 2013 at 4:42 pm #4230
Try it if no joy with it give mucuna pruriens a go or maybe tyramine(not tried that one myself as the others work for me).September 14, 2013 at 4:43 pm #4232
I don’t recommend L-DOPA myself.September 14, 2013 at 4:44 pm #4234
this cascade of reactions can help:
Phenylalanine—> tyrosine—> l-dopa—> dopamine–> norepinephrine–> epinephrine.
the thing is the enzyme that converts tyrosine to L-dopa (called tyrosine hydroxylase) is normally saturated under normal physiological conditions. That means that supplementing with tyrosine will not lead to any increase in l-dopa and thus no more increase in dopamine.
if you take tyrosine and you feel less sleep is required throughout the day or you feel energetic and outgoing you are increasing your NE and E. I feel the tyrosine is better suited for this purpose.
you can perhaps pair tyrosine with something else like Phenibut or plain GABA.
should all nutritional supplements or approaches fail Deprenyl would be something I’d consider.September 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm #4235
What does weight lifting do to estrogen? I mean if you are going to say that weightlifting increases test, so it lowers estrogen. I dont think it’s enough to make a differenceSeptember 14, 2013 at 4:46 pm #4236
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