My plan of action after seeing Shawn and DR. O

Sexual Reboot Forum My plan of action after seeing Shawn and DR. O

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  • #9196

    Victor

    my thyroid was only checked once over the summer and it was mid range…ill post the results tommorow as i dont have them on hand…

    My T has been checked like 7 times or so and the lowest it came in at is 387….and the highest was 531…..the last time i got it checked it was 505….

    i think the average is around 480 or so for now im gona have to be content with that….will see where this amino acid protocol has me in a few months.

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    #9199

    Ernie

    Js your T seems to be improving

    I have a comment about your protocol…have you thinked in adding Zinc /Selenium /Magnesium /Chromium with a B complex

    #9200

    Asa

    500 T is decent.

    700-1000 would be good.

    amino acids may help other areas but i dont think they will do much to increase testosterone.

    Also theres a lot of debate about the accuracy of neurotransmitter testing. Now the fractured catecholomines maybe of some use.

    #9202

    Buford

    the last protocol i was on i was taking zinc, magnesium ,B complex . I think for this protocol im not going to use them, well maybe zinc ill keep. This is because im already going to be injesting so many diffrent things i really dont want to over do it. not to mention itll get to complicated.

    I totally agree that I dont think amino acids will raise my T. im hoping that if they raise my neurotransmitters there may be a postive improvment on some of my hormones. However i think it will take many months and I think raising dopamine will be the most importtant for that.

    I agree im actually happy about My Testosterone progress. taking Vitamin D , reducing my ejaculation frequency seems to keep me in that 450 to 530 range which for the time being is fine…its not like i plan on having sex until im healed, or at least close to it. Not to mention my T was in this range all summer and I was able to get erections pretty easily with my EX. Alot of my ED problems started once i got the premature ejaculation. It was really hard for me to relax and just enjoy the moment when i had the thought of premature ejaculation in my head and was stressing about it. Over the summer once i started to accept the fact that I had these problems I was able to at least relax more and alot of my ED went away.

    As a matter of fact….im willing to say that before any of this started for me i doubt my T was all that high in the first place…..prob 500s and I almost never had ED.

    Your right about the neuro testing max….theres alot of controversy about its accuracy. However I do think its acurate enough where it can paint a general picture and show you how your progressing. I have the results at my house so when i get there later tonight ill post them. all my neuros are FUCKED up but it totally explains the way I feel.

    Iv also gotten the fractured catecholomines test several times now.

    My dopamine is undetectable its so low, same with epinephrine, but norepinephrine is in range but pretty low….i think this explains my PE because despite the fact that NE is low, the controls over GABA and serotonin are even lower. So when i get aroused its easy for my Body to cause a spike In NE and for me to have an orgasm. I think it also explains why i have PE and not precum leakage. And it also explains who when I take high Dose 5htp i have a postive reaction to it, because its not like my body needs to signficantly reduce NE, it just needs to raise the controls over it. Thats why i think the 5htp and carbidopa would be so fucking good. but whatever gotta be patient for now

    #9204

    Forrest

    For me…. my erections were the same at a TT of 250 vs 800…

    but having higher T isnt necessarily always better but it would be interesting to see how you feel if your T was close to 1000.

    this is a great post that explains why i dont feel any difference between high T and low T

    (sorry to hijack thread)

    but this is good information by Chilln

    http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=120858&postcount=126

    just listen to HAN and Dr. O. they will help.

    #9206

    Columbus

    I agree…….testosterone is only part of the picture. there is a shitload of other stuff you have to look at also. that thread you posted definetly shows that principle.

    I think once I balance my neuros ill see how i feel. Ill recheck all my hormones and see where there at. if im unsatisfied then ill start thinking about clomind, HCG, and eventually TRT. but I think ill be able to avoid those drastic measures.

    For now iv just gotta arm myself with alot of patience and even more determination.

    #9208

    Travis

    boosting cortisol is HUGE.

    boosting pregnenlone should boost neurotranmitters a good amount

    heres a good post by chillin from musclechat room

    Quote:

    http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121013

    #9210

    Darrell

    o wow……the part about pregnalone really hit me. I got my cortisol checked and its good…….but my aldosterone is low and i have frequent urination.

    i wanna check my prenalone actually……i wouldnt be surpized if something was off with it.

    #9212

    Aaron

    you could probably boost your thyroid, cortisol, testosterone even further.

    #9214

    Irving

    o im sure…..do you know if the blood test script Shawn hands out has a test for pregnalone…..or basically do you know if quest diagnostics can check that or is it a more specialized test?

    #9216

    Russel

    just do whatever HAN says…. hes best.

    #9218

    Jimmie

    great post max.

    That explains a lot of things.

    #9220

    Aurelio

    I think this is gona be the final protocol im going to with for the first two months…if anyone catches anything wrong with it let me know im open to suggestions

    morning

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    500 milligrams alpha gpc

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    afternoon

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    500 milligrams alpha gpc

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    Late afternoon

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    night

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    Also to note the sublingual 5htp is fast disolving product. Iv read alot of good reviews about it on other forums of people who felt nothing from regular 5htp and then clearly felt the effets of sublingual administration.

    So ya im gona be taking a shitload of supps but F*ck it…..shit sould work

    #9221

    Toby

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual

    the only thing i can think of is that all the b6 im gona be taking is gona convert the 5htp to fast but will see.

    #9222

    Antonio
    #9223

    Mel

    godamit i always forget something

    morning

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    500 milligrams alpha gpc

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    afternoon

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    500 milligrams alpha gpc

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    Late afternoon

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    night

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    #9224

    Chas

    morning

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    500 milligrams alpha gpc

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    afternoon

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    500 milligrams alpha gpc

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    Late afternoon

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    500 mg fishoil

    night

    5 grams glutamine

    2 grams tryptophan

    1 gram taurine

    1 gram glycine

    50 mg P5P

    75mg sublingual 5htp

    200 mg milk thistle

    1000 mg niacinamide

    500 mg fishoil

    #9226

    Maximo

    Good luck with this . I believe that any protocol followed diligently, every day, will bring improvements of some kind. The importance of a daily routine cannot be over emphasised, whether this be lifestyle or supplements.

    #9228

    Otis

    My remarks:

    1- nice GPC dosage since it doesnt exceed the 1.5 grams

    2- niacinamide intake is too high 4 grams a day…u need to reconsider the amount

    consult HAN for more feed back since their are studies that shows that alot of B3 can damage nerves

    3- P5P is B6 in the new form that is more effective, you need to reconsider the amounts you take just adjust it to 150 mg a day rather than 200

    you need to reduce risk as much as u can, since you are already a sufferer like us

    All the luck Js…. Iam waiting to see the results

    #9230

    Kasey

    Why not use GABA instead of L-Glutamine?

    While l-glutamine is an all-natural product, an ingredient by the name of GABA is a synthetic product that increases calm in the neurotransmitter by the same name.

    The problem with using this synthetic product is that your body responds to it like it would any other external chemical source (See Addiction); it increases the activity of the neurotransmitter gamma amino butyric acid, but does nothing to actually build or replenish it. The only way to naturally build the brain chemical GABA is through nutrition or through the use of the amino acid l-glutamine.

    People who are taking the product GABA will get a temporary calm, but will eventually need to change to l-glutamine to rebuild the GABA levels naturally.

    Always remember, before any nutritional supplement, including amino acids, consult your health care professional first.

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