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  • #5955

    Kent

    Hey there guys

    I’m from propeciahelp.com

    Quick background:

    I’m 26 years old and have had sexual problems for the past 18 months. I blame my problems on finasteride (propecia) , the hair loss drug, and i fit in with the other propecia sufferers but there is a massive overlap on here too – the symptoms seem to match up across the boards. I believe finasteride might be some sort of catylst to SE.

    Anyway, I had been taking finasteride from Jan 2009 – March 2010. At hindsight was sexual function was slowly weakening but i didn’t notice until March 2010. I stopped immediately.

    Anyway, my sides continued to get worse over the course of 2010 even having stopped finasteride.

    Here is the list of sides i’ve had/have:

    – Low libido

    – Penile shrinkage (undeniable narrowing!!)

    – Shooting penis pains prior to shrinkage.

    – Penis tissue change – hard to explain but the tissue has changed. (A part of the above)

    – Watery semen

    – Prostrate pain

    – Varying levels of erectile dysfunction – my arousal takes much longer to “kick start” also. 100% physical.

    – Eye floaters – something i never noticed until this whole thing began.

    – Dry skin on face – i used to have very oily skin

    I’ve went to various urologists and endochronologists who all said i was ok basically. No sign of prostatitus (no infection) etc and my bloods are largely fine (high Testosterone, high DHT although i do have high Estrogen). I’ve tried various treatments without any real success.

    Heres the thing:

    I used to be hypersexual. My high testosterone and high DHT perhaps explain this (when i mean high, i mean out of range high – which would explain the hairloss i guess!!).

    I had serious libido, great sensation, rock hard erections, low refratory periods etc etc. Now my penis needs cialis to ensure a 70% erection, my semen doesn’t shoot like it used to nor is it as creamy, and basically im 50% of what i used to be.

    I used to masturbate quite a lot. At college (20-24) i could easily have wacked of 4 or 5 times some days. Im sure i averaged 10 wanks a week for years and probably alot more ejaculations when you could being with my girlfriend.

    The thing is, if anything i wasnt overly “bad” the year leading up to my above mentioned problems. I was single and wasn’t masturbating more than the average sexual guy (probably averaged once a day but would have had binge episodes, too).

    I definately believe alcohol didn’t help my downward spiral. I drank alot throughout 2010 even when i was having these problems. I didn’t really make the connection but it definately didn’t / doesn’t help.

    I believe there has been a cocktail of factors after finasteride triggered my sexual demise.

    Does this sound like SE to you guys or what? Please tell me what symptoms would appear to be SE and what wouldn’t?

    Also – i’ve looked through this forum and there’s a disburbing lack of direction on it. What is the best chance of recovery – im reading exercise and holistic diets e.g. an anti-candida diet? Abstainance??

    Please help guys.

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    #5959

    Darell

    At least you got some years of sexual life. I have 20 years old and 5% libido of what I should have.

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    Most of the people here are disturbed in many levels. I am! Since Sexual Exhaustion includes a lot of imbalances, the physical and psychological health of the sufferers will be affected. Also people that have looked to a lot of porn and scum on the internet is harmed somehow…

    The forum can be really depressing when it comes to “recovery success” stories. Looks like this will be chronic (yeah is really hard to accept that,I know), but with the proper tests and later the appropiate meds or supplements it should improve a lot. But I think we will never be Super Fuckerman or anything.Those days are gone . Diet is really important, of course. For example, alcohol worses a lot my depression and it actually increases estradiol.

    By the way, you really overmasturbated if you did what you said, so for me your SE is a mix of overmasturbation and Propecia shit.

    #5961

    Nathanial

    Thanks for the post buddy,

    I agree that the addition of the 5ARII inhibitor is a huge factor. Finasteride is a terrible, terrible drug.

    Anyway, as for the testing, thanks for the advice but i’ve been down this line already. I know more about sex hormones than i ever thought id know.

    I’m looking into a saliva 24hour cortisol reading for to accurate assess my adrenals (even though i passed a ACTH stimulation test and my serum cortisol levels are fine). I’m also looking into a saliva candida test.

    Apart from that i’ve did pretty much everything. I recommend alot of guys on here get their thyroids checked out – especially Reverse T3 which is usually overlooked. That’s for another thread, though.

    As for my estrogen issues, ive experimented with various drugs – aromasin, arimidex, proviron, clomid etc etc. None of these appear to come close to addressing a root cause. My bodies hormones are as they are for a reason. My SHBG is okay btw.

    #5963

    Morris

    Most of the people here are disturbed in many levels. I am! Since Sexual Exhaustion includes a lot of imbalances, the physical and psychological health of the sufferers will be affected. Also people that have looked to a lot of porn and scum on the internet is harmed somehow…

    The forum can be really depressing when it comes to “recovery success” stories. Looks like this will be chronic (yeah is really hard to accept that,I know), but with the proper tests and later the appropiate meds or supplements it should improve a lot. But I think we will never be Super Fuckerman or anything.Those days are gone . Diet is really important, of course. For example, alcohol worses a lot my depression and it actually increases estradiol.

    By the way, you really overmasturbated if you did what you said, so for me your SE is a mix of overmasturbation and Propecia shit.

    Thanks for the post.

    Yeah, the recoveries look pretty rare

    RE: Proper tests. See above. I might look into parasite stool testing, though.

    #5965

    Laurence

    Mens Rea

    thats a good appraoch, do you recall your cortisol levels or your ACTH?

    The RT3 is also a good point to start with , since its associated with lowhigh cortisol(adrenal fatigue). People usually balance or lower their RT3 with balancing their cortisol , using RT3 and balancing nutritional deficiencies.

    if you are going to check your adrenal here is a good list

    1- electrolytes

    2- Hac1 (a reading for your sugar = average blood sugar for the past weeks)

    3- Preogestreone

    4- DHEA-S

    #5967

    Weldon

    Morning corisol levels were consistently upper range (around 500 pmol/L with the range being 150-550 approximately).

    ACTH was lower. 11 was one reading. The other one was 16. That’s relatively low but ive never knew how to follow that up? My endo said it was “okay” but given ranges of something like 5-90 it seems very low.

    My aldosterone also appeared low in my readings – around 150. Again my endo didn’t take much issue with this but i find it strange. I don’t exhibit the trademark symptoms of low aldosterone though (i.e. salt cravings).

    RT3 was middle of the range.

    I do believe my adrenals aren’t where they should be but not really sure how to address it. I experimented with small doses of cortisol without any noticable effect, for instance.

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    My DHEA-S was normal – cant remember the exact reading up it was plum-normal as they say.

    Progesterone was <2.0nmol/L which is the only range i was given for a male. Vague, i know.

    I’ve supplemented progesterone and might do so again.

    I’ve also experimented with pregnenolone with some success but nothing massive.

    Thoughts???

    #5972

    Augustus

    Hi Mens Rea,

    When it comes to interpretation of labs ‘s right there’re alot of knowledgeable guys over at muscle chat, you should post over there and see what response you get.

    There’s also a huge finasteride thread you might find helpfull.

    http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?3611-Official-Finasteride-Thread

    Let us know about any progress you make, where all trying to find answers too.

    #5973

    Zane

    Hey guys

    right now ive off sugar for the past two weeks, have improved my diet, off masturbation and i take:

    400-800mg of magnesium ED

    50mg of zinc every week day

    Vitamin D3 tablets

    No improvements yet, but im hopeful i can improve over the long run.

    Should i abstain from sex (once or twice a week) too or is that okay??

    #5975

    Julian

    Your addition will be welcomed Mens Rea.

    It seems that you have done many tests , and they are all fine which means that youll need more advanced view on your problem since the 5-AR destroys the dht conversion yet your TDHT is fine ,which means that more investigation must be done.

    I would advice you to post in MesoRx or Muscle Chat,in there you may have some good points , nevertheless you can post all your results in here with ranges and we would share our opinions.

    I’ve did all that thanks, im pretty much a reputable poster on various other sites. Im interested in what you guys are up to.

    #5977

    Loyd

    Mens Rea

    Congratulations!

    Oh that’s a bit sad to hear since many of us expect/expected magic to happen from cutting out sugar.I will not forget the guy who recommended cutting out the sugar on a forum full of desperate people with shrunk penis.He said 2 days off sugar cured his shrinking.

    Anyway,don’t give up because what you do is healthy but it seems you might need more supps or even meds to fix yourself.

    If you are 100% about the root cause of your problems is GI tract or candida then 2 weeks is not be enough.Sad news is candida is nearly indestructible.To kill candida one needs to cut out sugar (no fruits either),take the supps and even take the meds and EVEN do it for many months to years.

    You should have sex or masturbation once a week or once every 2 weeks.I think it depends on the severity of your POIS.

    #5979

    Noble

    This guy comes from finasteride. He should research that. All that stuff about DHT receptors etc. I think we have quite some info about that in these boards (allthingsmale,mesorx,anabolicminds etc), maybe you can find someone who recovered from post finasteride related symptoms. Maybe in this forum you can find some helpful info hopefully, beging putting “finasteride” or “propecia” in the search engine.

    You need more supplements and more specifically targeted to your case. I would suggest more research and tests for pointing you in the right direction. It also seems you have some sort of prostate inflammation or trouble going on. I have it also and most of us here. This can be one of the things to start with, inflammation, prostate etc I have tests that back up that my leaky gut and inmune reactions are what is causing most of the cascade reaction known as SE (inflammation, im imflammed). Candida is not discarded though, I just knwo I have some serious problem in the gut due to malabsorption,bloating and gas and a lot of food allergies.

    Good luck!

    #5980

    Andy

    Handling alot of these cases working with neuroscience into conducting a study looking at the neurotransmitters imbalance this drug causes. After attending a seminar there were some light bulbs which went on which may help to reawakening of the down regulated dopamine receptiors. I got a few guys getting ready who I have their DR prepping them to see if it works. in theory it looks very promising, now let having them put being monitrtored by Dr when they start. These guys will be monitored by their Dr’s for any adverse reactions

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