No masturbating from this point onwards

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  • #784

    Gonzalo

    I’m going to keep this short but eventually go into a little bit more detail in to why I’m doing this besides the obvious.

    I’m making good progess on TRT but the high sex drive is back, leading me to porn and masturbation which started this shit in the first place.

    There is no way I am addicted to porn or masturbation, but I really need this year to be productive and make some general progession in life, I know psyiologically this isn’t going to be possible if continue masturbating as too much time is wasted being ill.

    The goal is to stop watching porn completely, abstain from masturbating, if I’m feeling randy learn to supress them feelings and learn to understand the state I’m in and why I’m having to do this, sex is permitted, but not in excess.

    I have gone through periods of over 6 months of not watching porn and masturbating, I did make some progess but very little compared to now that I’m on TRT and fixing the root of cause, this is going to require a very strong discipline and to learn how to channel that built up sexual energy into something else.

    This is 1 day passed sucessfully, I will post here frequently and I have no intention of going back to my old ways unless there is enough scientific evidence to the contarary.

    There is another way that you can stop porn addiction, chronic masturbation and recover your sexual health without fighting it with willpower. With the right mindset you won't even relapse. You can learn more about the recovery program here

    #785

    Markus

    see this is what im talking about. hes doing it in the right order. First he healed the root cause of the problem which is bad hormones.

    then he realized watching porn and jerkin off is negative to so hes doing his best to cut it out. thats what people need to understand cutting out porn and jerking off before you correct imbalances is honeslty pointless. will help you like ten percent.

    once again good shit dude.

    #786

    Dalton

    Manage your time….and focus in the purpose of why you donot want to masturbate or to what porn

    these to habits are disastrous and you need to maintain a good attitude toward your temptations by managing your addiction

    #787

    Dino

    Thanks a lot for the support guys! you’re encouragement fuels me to succeed with this.

    I’m going to make 2011 the last year of SE I’ve wasted more than half my life to this bs and some of the best years in my life suffering.

    I think I’ve got my test and e2 in pretty good balance, my other hormones are not perfect but my thyroid and cortisol is sufficiently good, being on test my libido is very high all the time, throughout the day I’m very strong willed and won’t spend time looking at porn, but it’s usually late night and early hours in the morning where I fail because of not being able to sleep I just give in and at that time defences are quite low and I usually get the idea into my head a good fap will put me to sleep, wake up the next morning in a whole world of trouble for a few days thanks to SE symptoms.

    #788

    Gavin

    It’s going pretty welll now, the brainfog is starting to dissapear, muclemass is returning.

    A problem I am facing now is the very very high libido, just trying to keep occupied but right now I feel bannging chicks…

    Just to show how much destruction SE causes I’ll post some pics up of myself now, with pretty bad SE and then some pics in a few months time, there as always should be a pretty big difference.

    #789

    Carey

    dude keep it up. I have no doubt ull benefit. But honestly im tellin u if you dotn have adrenal fatigue once you can afford it you sould order amino acid and neurotransmitter testing. i think this will help with everything your tryin to do now ( mood, libido, motivation, possibly PE)

    #790

    Milford

    I dont understand this though, what’s the point of going on TRT if you can’t even have sex?

    I get abstaining from porn, but why masturbation and why sex?

    Doesn’t the TRT fix this? If not, why go on TRT?

    #791

    Brain

    well I think masterbatin to much without porn can be bad to . i think it teaches your body to react in ways somehwat unnatural to real sex.

    I mean think about it if your like im gona masterbate and you sit in a chair ull prob start playing with yourself to get hard. Thats not how real sex works most the time, your supposed to get spontantues erections from kissing or foreplay.

    I think masterbating is best done when your body feels this natural urge of horniess and erections come easily to you. If your forcin the erection through manual stiumualtion somethings probably not right. Or at the very least your body dosnt want it really and its more your addiciton controlling you.

    Just my two cents.

    I think the ideal sitution would be to have everything balanced so to speak and wait around for your natural erections to come back to you. once they become a consistent and dependable occurance then regualting your sex/masterbating sessions to a more natural frequency is best.

    This howeveer is a best case scenario and for most of us will not be the case.

    #792

    Leif

    I’ll try and explain the best I can, TRT doesn’t fix SE if I ejaculate whilst on TRT I still get all of the symptoms of SE but the time taken to recover is much much less.

    I abstained totally for the first month whilst being on TRT, and only started getting benefits from being on TRT about a month after, I guess that’s how screwed my body was. Then my libido went through the roof and no matter how hard I tried I couldn’t hold it any longer, there was barely any symptoms then just a puffy face and very little amount of brain fog, I had a few further ejaculations to test the waters and each time the symptoms were less, then I went and did it every 2 days and thats what got me back into bad shape and all the symptoms returned.

    What I’m trying to say is, abstinence whilst on TRT clearly feels as though the body is trying to heal itself, my muscles become fluid, my memory is pretty good, what my goal is just to abstain for a while, let the body recover from this and then get back into the game.

    If I’m going to have sex on the reg, which is always what happens if I’ve got a girl sleeping over, then it’s going to happen too often and I’ll just get back to where I was and besides I’m studying for a EE degree and holding down a job plus have family commitments, sure It’d be awesome to have a gf or just random hookups, but it’s the SE symptoms that really kill me off and I can’t even drive the first few days after ejaculating, cannot concentrate enough that and the fact I become quite weak too.

    So from here till my the end of my exams I’m just going to wait it out, concentrate on working out lifting heavy and maintaining a good nutritional diet and then I’m fairly confident it will be to some extent the end of SE for me.

    #793

    Preston

    I think if you fine tune all other issues besides testosterone/E2, you should have no more brain fog or any SE symptoms at all.

    I’m talking about addressing adrenals via pregnenolone.. thyroid via Armour.. infmallation with anti-inflammatories.. and lastly balancing neurotransmitters.

    If you are gonna take pregnenolone/ thyroid meds on your own then you really need to read up all about it and what pathways what takes so you know what is happening if you don’t get desired results.

    But generally this is a guideline that’s worked for a lot of people over at the MuscleChatRoom forum. Don’t know if you’ve visited it.

    A lot of people started with trt + hcg + keeping E2 in check. Next is addressing adrenals. It gets kinda complicated here. You need to use either pregnenolone, either HC or both.. and diff people get diff results so you need to understand what particular results mean… generally though pregnenolone has worked for a lot of people.. then some also add in Armour to strengthen the thyroid IF it still isn’t perfect after adrenals are healthy. And then lastly balance neurotransmitters by taking trying 5-htp, tyrosine, gaba, and so on… and lastly reducing Prostaglandin E2.

    I think unless you’ve done ALL those things.. you will still have some symptoms.. like lack of concentration like you describe. And even 1 hole in the system could be causing those symptoms.. like even low neurotransmitters.

    So keep tweaking.. keep getting tested and try to improve more and more everytime. And once you’ve addressed all those things you can expect a nearly full recovery where you can have sex twice a day with no symptoms.

    It’s worked for many people over at that forum. And it’s worked for Chris at this forum, and Yuhu. Only once they’ve successfully balanced everything then all symptoms disappear.

    So you’re well on your way but there’s still a lot of work that needs to be done if you’ve experiencing some symptoms.

    #794

    Donnie

    Green, I envy you =]

    Good job.

    By the way, if you could link me your test results? I forgot which post you posted them on (if you had even posted them). I have been studying peoples’ results and putting them together to help me better understand SE and what my test results might look like once I get them done.

    #795

    Zane

    Cheers for the adive, I’m not going to look into adrenals really, I’ve had cortisol tests and ACTH stim tests, all came back perfectly within range, that and my thyroid is perfoming well. I can afford to mess around with testosterone as I’ve been reading on it for a year or so and I think I know the in’s and outs, that and testosterone at TRT level + my age doesn’t seem to interfere with other hormones too much, I can’t afford to take other hormones as I’m on my own and don’t have the appropriate knowledge and it seems very complicated.

    I’m also part of the POIS forum, and I’m going to look into semen allergy in febuary as a cuase of my symptoms, it could be that semen is getting in contact with lymphocytes at the point of ejaculation and arousal causing an immune response.

    I’m not a believer too much of “sexual energy” I personally know some men who have been ejaculating almost daily for decades and have no reported problems. but we are all different.

    What I have found is a powerful orgasm results in less SE, so say if I wait for two weeks without much arousal and then have sex and I’m really into it and subsequently have a powerful orgasm, then the symptoms are much less and I overall feel very well after a week or so, very motivated and I feel intelligent, which I haven’t felt in years thanks to this. I get the opposite of this when I masturbate without ejaculating or have a weak orgasm, muscles lose thier fullness, the brainfog is pretty immense and I feel pretty depressed and down and it takes very very long to recover from this, I used to masturbate without ejaculating, I think personally it’s very bad, just masturbate/sex less often and make it more intenste.

    #797

    Bruno

    Green, cortisol results being in range doesn’t mean they are healthy. I’ve been told morning cortisol should be in the top 3/4 of the range.. mid day should be at about half.. and evening cortisol even lower. Most people here post A.M cortisol that’s in the bottom half of the range.. so while its still in range.. there’s still a lack of it.. and those people should benefit dramatically from Pregnenolone.

    As people explain at Musclechat, boosting cortisol is the first and most important thing.. because sufficient cortisol will allow sufficient testosterone metabolism, and bring E2 in check and fix neurotransmitters. So if your cortisol happens to be lowerish I’m just telling you you will feel a lot better if you get it to optimum range. If your thyroid is not horrible, then it should balance itself out when cortisol is sufficient.

    And also consider getting a neurotrasnmitter/ amino acid test… very valuable.. blanacing neuros alone with amino acid supplementation could get rid of some of your symptoms like brain fog maybe.

    “What I have found is a powerful orgasm results in less SE, so say if I wait for two weeks without much arousal and then have sex and I’m really into it and subsequently have a powerful orgasm, then the symptoms are much less and I overall feel very well after a week or so, very motivated and I feel intelligent, which I haven’t felt in years thanks to this. I get the opposite of this when I masturbate without ejaculating or have a weak orgasm, muscles lose thier fullness, the brainfog is pretty immense and I feel pretty depressed and down and it takes very very long to recover from this, I used to masturbate without ejaculating, I think personally it’s very bad, just masturbate/sex less often and make it more intenste.”

    I actually experience something very similar. If I have a weak orgasm then next day I will most likely have brain fog and hard flaccid. Powerful orgasm usually means things will be alright next morning,.

    Dr. Richards was talking about this. He was saying that if you have sex for a decent duration and then have a powerful orgasm, your (forgot the exact term.. either hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal-axis, or something in your brain) will recharge itself.

    He said that you can’t achieve this through masturbation. Orgasm will never be strong enough to create this ‘recharge’. So basically a typical orgasm from masturbation or weak sex will drain you. But a powerful one from sex only will actually recharge you.

    Don’t know if its true or not, but could be. Also don’t know if this actually can’t be achieved by masturbation only. Because at times when my symptoms were alleviated, and I jerked off and had a powerful orgasm,.. next time things almost always stayed good.

    Another thing though is that you release oxytosin when you have sex, and you don’t when you masturbate. Oxytosin has a lot of positive effects on the body and that could be another reason you feel better after sex, but not after masturbating.. and me too.

    #798

    Beau

    green

    Glad to hear your feeling better. Let me ask you a question. What did your doctor say about the longevity of using TRT? Also, once you’re on TRT do you have to stay on it for life? I’ve heard that your body is on TRT it stops making the hormones on it’s own. Is this true? What did your Dr. say? Who is your Dr.?

    #799

    Joshua

    I failed this

    I went past the 1 month barrier then woke up one night with a very powerful urge to ejaculate and I gave in, since then it’s been quite a downward spiral, I have made some progress, POIS/SE is lasting typically about 4 days before near normal functioning returns.

    I start this again, Last time I masturbated was on sunday 8th may and that will be the last time as soon as I ‘recover’ I’m getting myself back in the dating game and vow not to masturbate.

    I consider this a pledge to for better health, wealth and general wellbeing, although it sucks not having a sex life, but it is that which is completely destroying my life at this point, I hope in the months to come I can exercise regularly and shed a lot of fat and maintain a period of time when I am completely SE free and then attempt to engage in sexual activity.

    I’m still on HCG 150 iu daily, Arimidex 0.25mg e3d and 100mg sust/test-e mix weekly split into two injections and a very well balanced diet.

    The only time I feel as though I can fail is when I wake in the middle of the night feeling extremely horny and think it’s a good idea to masturbate or if I can’t fall asleep, the rest of the time I have very good self restraint, so I’ll have to work on them areas and I’ll manage.

    It’s going to be a very busy summer, as I have 70% of my degree to complete in three months, one more SE/POIS episode and I lose my degree and any chance of a good career, I’ll be posting here more regularly and reply back to some of the above messages once the brainfog lifts a little

    Be well all,

    #800

    Darwin

    i am very sad because today i got the SE symptoms cause of sperm comes out during pee , there were few drops comes out at the end and i also felt it , and sadly i got the SE symptoms …. i don’t what happen , but it comes out can any body explain it to me ..

    #801

    Efrain

    I’ve also had this a while now. It may be down to the prostate being inflammed and irritated (prostatitis) or UTI, I’ve had it cleared by some antibiotics in the past, but I’ve not had the courage to go to my GP and ask for them again.

    Is it a milky white colour towards the end of the urine stream? It does clear after you abtain for a while, be sure not sure to spend prolonged amounts of time erect. It starts to go away after frequently urinating.

    #802

    Patrick

    Andy

    I’m being ‘looked after’ by three doctors, all of which know what I’m taking, they wern’t happy at what I’m doing and they’ve declined to prescribe it, although I’m on an international prescription, here in the UK it’s VERY hard to get test prescribed, and even if you do it’s stupidly small amounts and treatment is NOT tailored to the blood work, my endocrinologist said he gives out a maximum of 50mg Androgel and that is considered to be theraputic.

    Since being on test I’ve had – ( total test – SHBG – LH/FSH) tested, everything was normal apart from LH/FSH which were near 0, as expected with taking exogenous test, if I wean off later on in time, I should be able to get back to baseline, I don’t care about fertility I don’t want to have childeren of my own, that’s not going to change.

    #803

    Dane

    Day – 5

    Starting to feel the zest and energy kick in (almost like nature’s VTEC )

    Palpitations are reduced and brain fog is not that much so I’m starting to drive again

    Sleeping patterns are still pretty fked up, I’m awake by 5.30am and only getting a few hours sleep, the quality is also very poor, I don’t wake up feeling heavy and refreshed, it’s just wake up and feeling groggy.

    Just sitting it out, these tough days will pass.

    #804

    Jarvis

    Day – 7

    Brain fog has finally lifted

    Does anyone else lose the ability to visualise things in their head with SE? I lose the ability to solve problems in my head, I’m doing a car project and I can use my head/imagination and ‘see’ the engine running and all it’s components, I just can’t do that right now

    Also I’ve got another UTI, third one this year, being treated by antibiotics.

    Many more days to, go this is just the beginning, I hope I acheive something from this.

    #805

    Erin

    – Day 8

    Productivity is increasing I don’t feel the constant need to lie down and waste the day to recover.

    Couldn’t sleep much last night, 3 hours at best, but that’s expected I’ve been taking sleeping pills for the last three weeks, weening off them now.

    I’ve lost a lot muscle around my joints and my knees and elbows are really weak

    Still no porn, there was a massive urge last night to masturbate to fall asleep, but I managed to refrain, the days are getting easier.

    #806

    Michale

    green

    do they look like as if they were knocked out?

    #807

    Chet

    It has helped me a lot in this struggle to stop porn/masturbation by changing my view of ejaculation. Instead of feeling like its normal to ejaculate all the time and that I am obligated to do it, I have accepted that as a man you can choose what to do with your sexual energy/seminal fluid. Wasting semen all the time and then feeling down in the dumps and exhausted is not fun… you must think of what causes you to feel compelled to ejaculate. If you do it to release tension or escape from anxiety, then I would suggest finding a healthy way of dealing with those feelings such as yoga, meditation, excercise or a hobby of yours. there seems to be a lot of pressure on men to be constantly sexual and if you choose not to masturbate then there is something wrong with you or your not healthy or any number of weird social pressures. ignore that shit. save your semen, save your energy, and be happy, creative, productive, more in touch with yourself.

    you can still masturbate…just do not ejaculate. If you are with a loving partner, it may be different… or you could continue to not ejaculate but still make love and be sexual.

    use your semen wisely, it is one of the most valuable things a man has, it is your core energy. sucks to splurt out your energy and your being all over the floor every day.

    #808

    Abe

    do they look like as if they were knocked out?

    No, there just isn’t any mass around my joints, any of them, I’ve lost so much mass over the past few months, whilst being ill. My food intake has only been ~ 1000 calories per day, and even with that I fill full and bloated.

    Just last week I was getting very very sharp knee pain, because the joint(s) cannot provide support for my body, even walking downstairs was a challenge, in contrast, when I’m out of SE/notmasturbated for a while, I cycle upto 60 miles a week at relatively fast pace with no issues.

    #809

    Darius

    Ajtiv

    Thank you, that is some very good advice. For the last few months, I’ve been messing around too much, ultimately I have to remember I suffer from this and I am NOT like everyone else, therefore I HAVE to do things differently. Unfortunately this is so fkn hard because we live in a society and world, where for normal people sex, sexuality, promiscuousness and everything associated with it is normal as breathing.

    My downfall for the past few months has been that I’ve been thinking too much, where everyone around me is in relationships and there is constant talk of sex, pair that to the fact orgasms are addicting and the best feeling I’ve ever had, naturally you’d want to do it, forgetting about the consequences.

    Ajtiv

    Nope, it will really F*ck you over, don’t masturbate and not ejaculate, it will catchup with you, this is what has ruined my health further, I’ve screwed up my prostate doing this and I have symptoms previously never had.

    I think about hooking up with girls everyday, but because of my age, it’s not possible to enter a relationship without the promise of any sex, therefore as usual I’ll have to remain single.

    Ajtiv

    I’ve read a lot about this, how semen is the ‘life force’ but things have changed, now that I’m on test, I no longer have any belief in that, I truly believe my SE is caused by an allergy to semen setting off pro-inflammatory cytokines. Most people I know are ‘healthy’ and they have sex and masturbate all the time, it effect’s them in no way and they are progressing very far in life, where me, I’m just sitting around with my degree, doing next to nothing and wasting away.

    It’s just constant catchup with normal people living with this crap, fall ill, return to where you previously to where you were and repeat. I’m at the end of my limit with this crap, I’m thinking to getting my GP to send me to a psychologist where I can explain all this crap, I just need more motivation than myself to complete this challenge, thus far I’m not doing too bad, but I really fear I might fail.

    #810

    Joe

    Day – 10

    Wasn’t very happy with how I was feeling today, normally when I’m at this stage I feel full of vigor and mentally very crisp, today I had lots of brain fog and was quite fatigued throughout the day, I think it has to do with the lack of sleep more than anything else.

    I have been popping sleeping pills for the past few months and can’t sleep without them, today I decided to drink quite a bit of whisky to fall asleep, normally I don’t drink at all, I don’t like the feeling of being drunk, unless it’s with good company.

    My productivity is increasing, passion for things outside of sex/porn are coming back to life, I really hope the foggy brain clears soon.

    I really, really hate how socially I become awkard, almost as though I’m shrivelled, but after abstaining for a while things return back to normal, thanks to this illness, I’ve lost some truly great friends from a lack of commitment, it’s hard to build a good social life, as it always leads to sex

    The plan is to continue this and bridge the gap of the months I’ve lost doing nothing but suffering, but I MUST remain commited to this if I’m going to see any benefit, who know’s being on test and not ejaculating might even fix SE, there’s always hope

    #811

    Raymon

    I think you need to get some tests from what i recall, low d can cause similar effects, low gluthamine, low glucose….

    det some good Vitamin D 1000iu, and Gluthamine to aid in this thing

    #812

    Ty

    green

    Dude…..so many of your remaining symptoms can be attributed to adrenal fatigue, hypothyroid and low neurotransmitters. Have you ever examined any of those? If you have please post the results.

    You need saliva cortisol x4, Free T3, Free T4, RT3 for the results to actually tell you your situation by the way for adrenals and thyroid.

    I remember when you first went on test I told you that but you just bounced. Fixing test is great, I just fixed mine and the benefits are nice obviosuly buts its only one part of the problem. I have confirmed hypothyroidism and low neurotransmitters. Wouldnt be surprized if you had something happenign there to since we share many of the same symtpoms.

    Fatigue, lack of motivation, Social anxiety , brainfog are all related to the above.

    If you really are commited to figuring out your problems and SE get the remainin tests I promise you wont regret it.

    Though I think abstainin is important to some degree if you have the problems I mentioned its never gona make all your symptoms go away so you can resume a normal life. believe me thats my goal to. I dono how much more of this I can take. I miss living a normal life with girls and beign carefree.

    Just think about how much better fixing your T made you feel. Now imagine fixing the remaining problems along with abstainin.

    By the way iv spoken to 3 people who have healed all symtoms of SE and POIS, most of which where identeical to yours and mine and they didnt just have low testosterone, they had fucked up adrenals, fucked up thyroid and fucked up neurotransmitters as well that they had to deal with.

    If fixing T and abstainin was all it took this would be light work.

    #813

    Jamaal

    I don’t think I have any problems with my hormones, apart from my testosterone being low and I think that has to be down to the fact I went and did all the blood works after abstaining for six weeks.

    I’ve had all of the above blood work done and there wasn’t anything off, I’ll post up the results tomorrow, my endocrinologist checked the blood work, but those guys cannot be heavily relied upon and he told me I definetly did not have adrenal insufficency, but did conceed I had low testosterone (215 ng/dl) but refused to treat me, makes sense? Not to me.

    #814

    Herbert

    Day – 11

    Not done a great deal today, but I’m starting to ‘feel myself’ again, as the days pass with this challenge, sexual interest is starting to be lost, possibly becuase of the losing battle of my libido against my mind and determination.

    I’ve been on antibiotics for five days and my UTI is still not clearing and my prostate seems irritated and cannot hold the semen, after urinating I get a discharge of semen, which is contributing massively to me not feeling SE symptoms, hoping this will pass soon. Additionally I’m not sleeping well either, sleep is neither refreshing nor long, only sleeping about four hours a night, which is making recovery really slow.

    I’ve got plans for tommorrow, I’m starting to clear the backlog of things to do list that has been piling up for me whilst being sick with SE for the past 2 1/2 months.

    #815

    Johnny

    Day – 15

    I can’t sleep, argh. Most of the SE/POIS are now over, but becuase of the lack of sleep I struggle to do most things with good stead. I’m also very bloated and have quite bad indegestion, I might go on a liquid diet for the next few days/weeks to see if it clears.

    For some reason I’ve been urinating blood and for the past 1/2 year at the end of my urine stream I’ve been getting milky pee, now I get a discharge after I urinate, after that my back hurts badly and I get very shakey. I’ve been given anti-biotics, but they are not doing owt

    #816

    Graig

    Green pls take vitamin b complex injections it will help you alot

    pls do so

    #817

    Clark

    Actually my Vitamin B levels were quite low, but they wern’t low enough to warrant to treat them with injections, I just take a multivit with all vit b, makes little difference with SE.

    #818

    Roscoe

    Day – 16

    Starting to feel the the full benefits of being SE/POIS free, I was very stressed out during the day, but it’s now since gone, instead of being depressed and suicidal and the glimmer of hope is returning.

    Now the challenge begins to start getting out of the mess I managed to get myself into over the past few months, indulging in sexual activities.

    The aim is to finish the degree and lose some weight and cut down to 10% bodyfat.

    I found out my estradiol levels were very high, possibly attributing to some of my symptoms.

    #819

    Alexis

    good luck !!!!

    what are estrodial levels ???

    how to check ????

    #820

    Luigi

    They were above the maximum figure in the reference range. ~ 102 pg/ml which is very high for a male, excess testosterone gets converted into estradiol, you can use an AI to inhibit that conversion. Excessive estradiol/estrogen levels also have nasty repercussions.

    #821

    Joaquin

    – Day 18

    This is the best I’ve felt this year. Yesterday I took Zopiclone because recenly I’ve not been able to sleep, I had the best nights, refeshing sleep.

    Today I was full of energy and vigor and managed to power through majority of a massive jobs and things to do list.

    The differences, when I’m in POIS/SE and almost fully out, are insane, in POIS/SE I can’t remember a sentence of a passage and today I can remember an entire credit card number or serial, just by spending a few seconds looking at it.

    I really HATE doing this, but I’m in such a mess with my life that I have to spend my time out of POIS/SE wisely. Apart from the sexual frustration, the feeling of abstienence and having a high normal testosterone count, in my case is second to none, I’m sure bar lack of sex, I should be able to report, with the continuation of this challenge, I’ll be feeling the best I’ve ever felt in over 10 years.

    Be well all.

    #822

    Damon

    – Day 19

    Another extremely productive day, I’ve started to develop a short temper I’ve always have one, but lately Ive been quite snappy, where normally I’d be docile.

    The sexual frustration is getting hard to control, I’m not watching porn, don’t plan to, but I’m spending a lot of time fantasising and a little bit of female flesh is sending me wild.

    For the time being I have to learn how to channel this sexual energy into other areas.

    I’m setting myself goals and I want to keep at it, throughout the month of june, currently, I’m really trying hard to get my fitness, sleep and diet in check.

    #823

    Wes

    Congrats!

    how is your brain fog? A bit less? or?

    don’t worry, soon enough your body will get used to not having multiple orgasms all the time.

    #824

    Edwin

    Day – 7

    Brain fog has finally lifted

    Does anyone else lose the ability to visualise things in their head with SE? I lose the ability to solve problems in my head, I’m doing a car project and I can use my head/imagination and ‘see’ the engine running and all it’s components, I just can’t do that right now

    Also I’ve got another UTI, third one this year, being treated by antibiotics.

    Many more days to, go this is just the beginning, I hope I acheive something from this.

    #825

    Sherman

    – Day 8

    Productivity is increasing I don’t feel the constant need to lie down and waste the day to recover.

    Couldn’t sleep much last night, 3 hours at best, but that’s expected I’ve been taking sleeping pills for the last three weeks, weening off them now.

    I’ve lost a lot muscle around my joints and my knees and elbows are really weak

    Still no porn, there was a massive urge last night to masturbate to fall asleep, but I managed to refrain, the days are getting easier.

    #826

    Silas

    green

    do they look like as if they were knocked out?

    #827

    Rupert

    It has helped me a lot in this struggle to stop porn/masturbation by changing my view of ejaculation. Instead of feeling like its normal to ejaculate all the time and that I am obligated to do it, I have accepted that as a man you can choose what to do with your sexual energy/seminal fluid. Wasting semen all the time and then feeling down in the dumps and exhausted is not fun… you must think of what causes you to feel compelled to ejaculate. If you do it to release tension or escape from anxiety, then I would suggest finding a healthy way of dealing with those feelings such as yoga, meditation, excercise or a hobby of yours. there seems to be a lot of pressure on men to be constantly sexual and if you choose not to masturbate then there is something wrong with you or your not healthy or any number of weird social pressures. ignore that shit. save your semen, save your energy, and be happy, creative, productive, more in touch with yourself.

    you can still masturbate…just do not ejaculate. If you are with a loving partner, it may be different… or you could continue to not ejaculate but still make love and be sexual.

    use your semen wisely, it is one of the most valuable things a man has, it is your core energy. sucks to splurt out your energy and your being all over the floor every day.

    #828

    Eldridge

    do they look like as if they were knocked out?

    No, there just isn’t any mass around my joints, any of them, I’ve lost so much mass over the past few months, whilst being ill. My food intake has only been ~ 1000 calories per day, and even with that I fill full and bloated.

    Just last week I was getting very very sharp knee pain, because the joint(s) cannot provide support for my body, even walking downstairs was a challenge, in contrast, when I’m out of SE/notmasturbated for a while, I cycle upto 60 miles a week at relatively fast pace with no issues.

    #829

    Jefferson

    Ajtiv

    Thank you, that is some very good advice. For the last few months, I’ve been messing around too much, ultimately I have to remember I suffer from this and I am NOT like everyone else, therefore I HAVE to do things differently. Unfortunately this is so fkn hard because we live in a society and world, where for normal people sex, sexuality, promiscuousness and everything associated with it is normal as breathing.

    My downfall for the past few months has been that I’ve been thinking too much, where everyone around me is in relationships and there is constant talk of sex, pair that to the fact orgasms are addicting and the best feeling I’ve ever had, naturally you’d want to do it, forgetting about the consequences.

    Ajtiv

    Nope, it will really F*ck you over, don’t masturbate and not ejaculate, it will catchup with you, this is what has ruined my health further, I’ve screwed up my prostate doing this and I have symptoms previously never had.

    I think about hooking up with girls everyday, but because of my age, it’s not possible to enter a relationship without the promise of any sex, therefore as usual I’ll have to remain single.

    Ajtiv

    I’ve read a lot about this, how semen is the ‘life force’ but things have changed, now that I’m on test, I no longer have any belief in that, I truly believe my SE is caused by an allergy to semen setting off pro-inflammatory cytokines. Most people I know are ‘healthy’ and they have sex and masturbate all the time, it effect’s them in no way and they are progressing very far in life, where me, I’m just sitting around with my degree, doing next to nothing and wasting away.

    It’s just constant catchup with normal people living with this crap, fall ill, return to where you previously to where you were and repeat. I’m at the end of my limit with this crap, I’m thinking to getting my GP to send me to a psychologist where I can explain all this crap, I just need more motivation than myself to complete this challenge, thus far I’m not doing too bad, but I really fear I might fail.

    #830

    Monte

    Day – 10

    Wasn’t very happy with how I was feeling today, normally when I’m at this stage I feel full of vigor and mentally very crisp, today I had lots of brain fog and was quite fatigued throughout the day, I think it has to do with the lack of sleep more than anything else.

    I have been popping sleeping pills for the past few months and can’t sleep without them, today I decided to drink quite a bit of whisky to fall asleep, normally I don’t drink at all, I don’t like the feeling of being drunk, unless it’s with good company.

    My productivity is increasing, passion for things outside of sex/porn are coming back to life, I really hope the foggy brain clears soon.

    I really, really hate how socially I become awkard, almost as though I’m shrivelled, but after abstaining for a while things return back to normal, thanks to this illness, I’ve lost some truly great friends from a lack of commitment, it’s hard to build a good social life, as it always leads to sex

    The plan is to continue this and bridge the gap of the months I’ve lost doing nothing but suffering, but I MUST remain commited to this if I’m going to see any benefit, who know’s being on test and not ejaculating might even fix SE, there’s always hope

    #831

    Waldo

    I think you need to get some tests from what i recall, low d can cause similar effects, low gluthamine, low glucose….

    det some good Vitamin D 1000iu, and Gluthamine to aid in this thing

    #832

    Jean

    green

    Dude…..so many of your remaining symptoms can be attributed to adrenal fatigue, hypothyroid and low neurotransmitters. Have you ever examined any of those? If you have please post the results.

    You need saliva cortisol x4, Free T3, Free T4, RT3 for the results to actually tell you your situation by the way for adrenals and thyroid.

    I remember when you first went on test I told you that but you just bounced. Fixing test is great, I just fixed mine and the benefits are nice obviosuly buts its only one part of the problem. I have confirmed hypothyroidism and low neurotransmitters. Wouldnt be surprized if you had something happenign there to since we share many of the same symtpoms.

    Fatigue, lack of motivation, Social anxiety , brainfog are all related to the above.

    If you really are commited to figuring out your problems and SE get the remainin tests I promise you wont regret it.

    Though I think abstainin is important to some degree if you have the problems I mentioned its never gona make all your symptoms go away so you can resume a normal life. believe me thats my goal to. I dono how much more of this I can take. I miss living a normal life with girls and beign carefree.

    Just think about how much better fixing your T made you feel. Now imagine fixing the remaining problems along with abstainin.

    By the way iv spoken to 3 people who have healed all symtoms of SE and POIS, most of which where identeical to yours and mine and they didnt just have low testosterone, they had fucked up adrenals, fucked up thyroid and fucked up neurotransmitters as well that they had to deal with.

    If fixing T and abstainin was all it took this would be light work.

    #833

    Hugh

    I don’t think I have any problems with my hormones, apart from my testosterone being low and I think that has to be down to the fact I went and did all the blood works after abstaining for six weeks.

    I’ve had all of the above blood work done and there wasn’t anything off, I’ll post up the results tomorrow, my endocrinologist checked the blood work, but those guys cannot be heavily relied upon and he told me I definetly did not have adrenal insufficency, but did conceed I had low testosterone (215 ng/dl) but refused to treat me, makes sense? Not to me.

    #834

    Lucio

    Day – 11

    Not done a great deal today, but I’m starting to ‘feel myself’ again, as the days pass with this challenge, sexual interest is starting to be lost, possibly becuase of the losing battle of my libido against my mind and determination.

    I’ve been on antibiotics for five days and my UTI is still not clearing and my prostate seems irritated and cannot hold the semen, after urinating I get a discharge of semen, which is contributing massively to me not feeling SE symptoms, hoping this will pass soon. Additionally I’m not sleeping well either, sleep is neither refreshing nor long, only sleeping about four hours a night, which is making recovery really slow.

    I’ve got plans for tommorrow, I’m starting to clear the backlog of things to do list that has been piling up for me whilst being sick with SE for the past 2 1/2 months.

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