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  • #13337

    Clair

    Hello everyone

    This is my first post over here and I’m going to describe the problems I have faced over the years. After reading through other peoples’ miseries, I realize that I may be a victim of SE as well.

    The part in quotes, I am copying from what I in the WebMD forums(to no avail, of course) -:

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    Post February 2012, I tried tricyclic antidepressants (for IBS) for a month and a half. First Tryptomer, which caused pretty bad constipation, and then I shifted to Prothiaden. They did control my bladder a bit, but my gut was slowly changing from rapid stool evacuations to slow evacs. It so happens that I have quite slow evacs now, I take atleast 20 minutes in the bathroom. I may not evacuate fully sometimes, so I need to go atleast twice. Here’s the funny part : after 3 years of shittin’, now my anal muscles refuse to expel crap on their own, I have to strain a bit, everytime.

    I am currently on Enterogermina and Revital (a popular B-complex supplement in my country, which supposedly has Ginseng too). My last two visits to the doctor have ended with one conclusion : “Stop masturbating”. He reckons the energy losses were too much for me to cope, expulsion of semen occurs with great force. The fact that I jerk off face down probably also played a part. Before I started gymming, in a matter of months I had lost about 20 kilograms of weight (85 to 65) due to vitamin deficiencies and IBS. It was terrible.

    I’ve been gymming for 5-6 months in a bid to regain my vitality. God knows when my gut and bladder will be okay.

    I have not fapped since 2 and a half weeks and my last nocturnal emission was on the 13th of this month. My current weight is 61.4 kilograms.

    Also : Add thinning hair to the list of problems. I was diagnosed with seborrheic dermatitis 3 years ago. That was worked on with medicated shampoos containing corticosteroids and ketoconazole. The problem seemed to calm down for the time being. I don’t know whether it’s back, but my scalp often itches in heat, and my hair has been steadily thinning.

    I am somewhat able to cope with the itching by applying a little oil on my hair at the end of a bath regularly, but the hairfall seems to be constant. When I was first diagnosed with dermatitis, the dermatologist had explained that overworking hormones were causing the problem. It all makes sense now. Overworking hormones, from where but masturbation?

    I only wish I had known the consequences of what I was doing to myself…

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    #13338

    Damion

    start on with probiotics to strengthen your own immune system, use more garlic and onions and coconut oil. they help alot in fighting the pathogens in our gut, and provide it with the needed gut bacteria.

    Your prostate can be an indicator of high inflammatory signaling as cytokines or pge2, high estrogen,high cholestrol, and maybe high DHT.

    start with fishoilolive oil, pygeum bark, ginkgo these can lower the inflammation and helps also in lowering high lipids if its there

    look into conducting a comprehensive stool Analysis(if possible), it can clarify alot of your gut problems.

    #13339

    Brendon

    Thanks for the reply . I know I haven’t been as active as I should be here, but now I finally have the time.

    About probiotics, I’ve been on them for quite a long time. Enterogermina, as per doc’s prescription.

    -> Sidestory : Last year, fag end December 2011. I felt like my digestive health was slowly failing (as in a lot of gas being produced and discomfort) again (infection episodes in October and November). Without asking my doctor, I decided to take Darolac capsules as they had been beneficiary for me years ago. On the 2nd night, the night before my last semester exam, I popped a Darolac capsule on feeling too much gas. The night that followed was a horror story in itself. I woke up at 1 AM, started pissing like crazy. Then I realized I would have to take a dump : I took atleast 3 dumps and could not sleep, I was shaking like a patient suffering from neurosis (most likely because poop was causing body spasms as the body tried to maintain a balance). The morning after, I slept for one hour and took the exam on Imodium capsules, on my father’s insistence. Thankfully I scored a B with such minimal preparation. I find it weird that Darolac seemingly instigated this, but when I told my doc, he did not look much into it.

    Right, coming to my current condition. I have not fapped for four weeks now, and have had auto emissions on the mornings of 6th and 9th August, before college, which sucks. The emission on 6th August released a lot of ejaculate (as I no longer fap) and caused a sharp rising pain in my anus, which took a while to subside.

    My diet has been slightly junky, but for the most part, healthy home cooked food, considering that this is the week my birthday is in, lol. On a few days I still get the urge to poop twice but I’m mostly okay with it…semi-solid to solid stool. I won’t have gym till the 15th because they’re shifting, so I gotta do something about that.

    About urination, I urinate atleast 4 times across the morning and early afternoon. I am able to hold it better during and after lunch, then in the evening I pee a few times again. It’s annoying at best. It feels like pee keeps accumulating at the base of my urethra. I suppose there’s nothing I can do about that now, as even blocking meds didn’t help (maybe because I was still jerking off back then?).

    I don’t want to burden dad with the cost of a CSA test…I’m waiting for when I get stipends in internship/get a job. I’ll go for a CSA test then. I just checked that CSAs are available here in India, thank God. I will have to ask my doctor about it as well.

    Also, my hair does seem thinner, parts of my scalp can be seen near the middle. What on Earth do I do about it? I use Garnier Fructis anti-dandruff shampoo and apply a little oil afterwards to keep the scalp from itching too much…

    Also, Revital often makes me slightly sleepy. Is that normal?

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    I would also like to add that I had tests done last October/November, which first told me of my Vitamin B and D deficiencies. I was also tested for Blood Glucose (and blood components in general), Liver and Thyroid functioning and those came out normal. Even the test for Celiac disease came out negative.

    There was one weird result, though. IgA marker came out to be 196 mg/dL or something. That seemed to be quite a bit above the reference range. I did ask doc about this, twice : he was not worried about it. This is IgA, not IgE btw.

    #13340

    Hubert

    In this case, getting a comprehensive GI tract panel its crucial. You could be having h. pylori or some other shit all this time. I wouldnt rule out either parasites or candida. Also, did you ever got your urine tested? It sounds like some bacteria its playing around the genital area. Maybe the urine testing that your doctor recipes wont be enough. Me personally that I have started to experience intense continous pelvic pain I have been to the doc the last week and they took my urine. In my experience their testing sucks and you need to do it privately. But will see the results. I do think I have something going there as well.

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    This is a common symptom of the gut problems, specifically, candida. I have this as well, but in a lesser degree, with itchy scalp and sometimes itchy scalpy eczema in the nose.

    How curious, your weight. Mine its 60 kg. Im 176-178 cm tall (not sure and with this degenerative problems I bet my ass im slightly shrinking). What its your height? No doubt this is due to nutritional defficiencies because we dont absorb enough form food, then the body runs into a catabolic state. Indeed probably you are stuck in sympathetic state, which is catabolic.

    How its your tongue? Its white coated or cracky? Are your testicles pink or reddish?

    #13341

    Kim

    Sargonnas, I had numerous urine cultures and routine microscopies done. None yielded a positive result. All stool tests came negative as well when it came to pathogens.

    I even had an acid fast bacilli smear done (dunno what for? included in urine test) but that came negative as well. I have no idea what’s going on.

    My tongue definitely seems fine, it’s not white coated. I don’t think my testicles are reddish or something, the two urologists I went to would have known otherwise. I agree with the comprehensive GI testing, but my parents and the doctor think I’ll be fine on my own and no such tests are required. It’s annoying, my mom wants me to no longer ‘bother’ the doc.

    The doc probably thinks masturbation is the be-all and end-all of my problems. My technique of masturbating is what got me in trouble…face down, and as disgusted I am to admit it, on magazines. Back in the last year of highschool, I used one magazine a number of times. I’m pretty sure that’s where it all went downhill from. I never admitted the mags part to the doc, just said I did it facedown. Too gross. God knows why I did it. It just felt so…good. Ergh.

    It was compulsive jerking off. I used to think of a girl and immediately get to satisfying my thoughts. I’m glad I’m past that now.

    #13342

    Colton

    Yeah we all have things to be ashamed here. If you need confessions, write it all down here or even tell it to someone you trust. Makes you feel better. Lol but your adventures with magazines are so softcore compared with what I did or other members that overcomed me as well. But we all deserve forgiveness and peace and a chance to become a person that can be proud of himself.

    How did you said you used to masturbate? Grinding against the bed or something like that? I am positive this can cause genitalia problems over time, have seen more cases. I did this for a while in my teens, too.

    I am in the day 16 of no masturbating. And in the month 6 or so of not watching porn or even anything erotic in purpose. I plan to extend this ad infinitum. And I dont feel this will cure me. Dont be fooled by the idea of just abstaining and you will cure or that overmasturbation caused all your problems. Only a very few people cured this way and ,sincerely?… They werent as ill as most of the guys I have seen here or in other boards.

    And either the tests you had done were not deep enough or just the doctors didnt know how to read them. Yes, crazy as it sounds, most doctors DONT KNOW how to read test results, for most of ailments. So the scenario its like they wont recipe you the needed tests, but even the few rudimentary ones they will run will always come “within range or slightly high or low, which its nothing to worry about, take this antidepressant and let us have some peace as my secretary is about to give me head” etc

    On a side note, heavy metals can be the culprit of IBS and prostatitis, trust me because I have one year of experience reading other cases,theories and “health schools of thought”. Its all about research, some faith and looking for the real causes of the problems and then choosing the best treatment.

    #13343

    Lincoln

    I just read the article on adrenal fatigue by the way. It’s a very telling article and I feel a lot of it makes sense to me.

    Not all the symptoms apply but they probably did at some point in the past. The most damning and perhaps the most visible symptom is that even after thinning so much, my waist is still bloated up. This also means my doc probably has an inkling that it could be part-adrenal fatigue. Then it’s quite obvious that he thinks that by leaving the body to the right nutrients and sufficient amount of exercise and rest, should cause it to recover on its own. I think it is the right approach and I will find out in some months or so.

    Regarding the stressor part, I now realize why mom tells me not to play games like Battlefield 3 after dinner…lol. Damnit, that game is highly addictive. Who knows, maybe it really is affecting my digestion/body working! (BF3 is fairly recent, and so I cannot say it has been a causative agent for too long)

    I suppose I’ll have to continue my schedule of morning exercise+yoga, and continue evening gym.

    I hope I’m not taking *too* much nutritional supplementation. Revital in the morning and a protein shake in the evening post-workout.

    lol…how I used to masturbate? By grinding against a magazine or by fisting in the bathroom. Eventually the fisting in the bathroom didn’t satisfy me as much.

    #13344

    Andreas

    Yes, for some reason, adrenal fatigue its almost always present in SE cases. I suspect overmasturbation does cause it or at least its a factor, like staying up late, partying, or stressing yourself. Overall adrenal fatigue its a marker of “self abuse”, it seems.

    You are pretty lucky. Im seeing that your doctor have some clues! Yeah, to recover adrenal fatigue those things are necessary. But its not easy…

    #13345

    Darryl

    Adrenal fatigue is linked in almost all SE cases because I think there could be a connection. I remember when I was masturbating that my energy level was very low. I would feel like shit all day and at night time after work I would just feel tired to do anything. Now I get home, have more energy, then either go for a walk after dinner or hit the gym.

    I’ve tried to keep exercise as part of my daily regimen. At least 1/2 hour each day, that means I either walk at night time or hit the gym.

    Since I’ve started going to the gym I’ve been thinking of purchasing a protein powder to help my muscles recover faster. what protein powder do you use? I know a few people who buy protein powder, but I cannot remember what brand they buy and why they purchase that specific type. I am not trying to become a body builder. I am just trying to add more definition to my body. I want a rock hard abdomen and more muscle on my arms.

    #13346

    Dorsey

    @ : I guess he does have an inkling of what’s really going on, considering that we never really found infectious agents. That means they’re either really well hidden or that it’s adrenal fatigue. The chances are stronger for the latter, though if both are together, it would really suck :

    @ : I use B-Protin (by British Biologicals), it’s quite popular in my country. People of all ages, teen and up, can use it. I think kids can too under some circumstances. My biceps have fattened a bit, and now that I’ve started barbell training after 5-6 months of strengthening myself on dumbells, it’s only going to get better. It’s not specifically for body building either. I chose it keeping my sensitive GI tract in mind.

    The only problem I have is that protein fluid makes me piss a lot -.- I suppose because 2 hours earlier, I also have psyllium husk with water for my gut. What do you guys think? Is this bladder/prostate problem completely surmountable? Everyone says it will go away eventually, but what if I have damaged myself to the point of no return??

    There are different types of protein powders, like complete-whey or complete-casein or mixed(like B-Protin). Whey protein is fast digesting but may cause problems for people with IBS. It is recommended post workout.

    #13347

    Quinn

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    Nah you are 19 years old. If there is a chance to recover, you have it!

    #13348

    Ron

    Aye, homies. How are ye all? I hope your individual recoveries are coming along well…if not, join the club luls.

    There is something that I found in my earlier test results that I had missed…something I believe that we all missed.

    These results date November 2011, for general information -:

    PHOSPHORUS : 3.2 mg/dL (Ref 3 – 7)

    SODIUM : 139.00 mEq/L (Ref 132 – 150)

    POTASSIUM : 4.32 mEq/L (Ref 3.50 – 5.00)

    CHLORIDE : 100.30 mEq/L (100-115)

    Anything fishy with these values, my good friends? Why does this stink most horribly of adrenal fatigue?

    And if I have adrenal fatigue (which we’ve already suspected), what is the root of the problem, the underlying cause? Could it be recurring gut problems that are overworking the adrenals (which have to produce more anti inflammatories)? I can only wonder.

    Then again, the adrenals are too powerful to be worked down by just one thing. I’m sure my bad eating habits, excessive videogaming, compulsive masturbation all combined to create the Hell that I now find myself in. You would think that I’d curl up into a fetal position and start crying, as to why I never listened to my mom’s advice when it came to proper rest, exercise, lesser gaming, etc.

    I am fully deserving of what I am going through right now. If it impairs my sexual function later in life, I will live with it – probably even turn to becoming a monk. I was always academically inclined. I read somewhere that people who suffer adrenal fatigue much earlier in life become very spiritually inclined later on – I don’t see a problem with that.

    #13349

    Octavio

    You are intelligent. Not to be offensive, but not all of the guys that end in these corners are. I can see it in your words, you have future and will sort this out quickly. (Quickly means anytime from one year to three lol).

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    Yes, but probably there is something more in the equation. In my case, Asperger Syndrome which means genetically induced weakness in the detoxification pathways of heavy metals and other toxins, also means living in severe stress because of social phobia and the overuse of an aluminum antiperpirant (active auto-intoxication). Plus the trauma of slight sexual abuse by my cousin, the beatings in childhood from my father which I love nowadays and its a great support and the intense pain of being cheated and castrated by the first love of your life. Aka emotional toxins because of painful, super stressful relationship. Aka PTSD.

    If adrenal fatigue its your highest concern (should be at least one of the highest) I suggest start posting and reading here as well: [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    #13350

    Samual

    Well, if we consider infectious agents that we have missed, I can only think of -:

    1. The food I ate – I had a protozoan infection for which Orni-O was prescribed. I suspect it was giardia – if it is, it would explain why I lost so much weight. IBS on its own does not cause weight loss. Giardiasis can be chronic – it takes a long while to go away – and it causes malabsorption as well as fat loss through defecation. Candida, as you suggested, is another possibility, for I contracted giardia/protozoan only last October.

    I am sure my masturbation, even if in lesser frequencies, suppressed my immune system and caused it, whatever it is, to stay longer than it should. I am still losing weight steadily but that could again be because of my treadmilling – I use a 3% upwards incline, I think I should stop doing that.

    What doesn’t make sense is that even on the days I don’t exercise, I seem to lose some weight.

    2. Masturbation. Thrusting against a magazine and using the same magazine repeatedly over half a year – disgusting but true. I used to feel really good off it even though at the back of my head, I knew I was asking for trouble. I can’t explain my animalistic mindset at the time – it felt like real sex to me, the dopamine rushes were overwhelming. I can’t even begin to describe the state of the poor magazine which I eventually disposed of stealthily. Even now I get semi-boners on thinking of the specific scenes from films such as Unfaithful, which I used to fap to.

    The good news is that I have removed all traces of sexually stimulating material off my computer for good. I simply cannot jerk off once a month – it starts to become an addiction which my brain tries to justify. I will not let that happen again.

    This is the problem . While I accept your suggestion to check out curezone, I am still at loggerheads over what my condition really is. It’s so fucking elusive, it won’t show itself. I am sure it is a bunch of conditions presenting itself as only one. It could be GI infection with a dash of adrenal fatigue. Thing is, if I had only one of the problems, I would’ve still lived far more peacefully. Bladder and gut combined makes it hell at times.

    My main option, as per my parents and doctor, is to wait it out. I can do that wholeheartedly if someone on this board assures me, through experience, that this kind of thing will go away and I will return to atleast 95% normalcy.

    #13351

    Gaylord

    Well, Reich, at least you could start reading and researching Giardia. In fact its one common infection over curezone Parasite forums.

    I mean you are doing the right thing about masturbation and pornography (avoiding them) but you also need to look into the GI thing and adrenal fatigue. And I can assure you only a few slight cases have cured “SE” with abstaining and waiting it out… And no one cured GI tract infections or adrenal fatigue just with healthy living. The body has reached a critical point in which external agents and more radical protocols are needed. Like antiparasitic herbs or adrenal glandulars with *ehem*… enemas for example haha.

    And you are right about this being more than one condition at the same time. Thats why im groing into a holistic approach, nutritional balancing.

    #13352

    Hank

    Well, after much thought I have decided to defer the use of adrenal extracts/hormones for the time being. I consider them more as a last resort, if anything. My case is not so bad, and I don’t want to rush things. Plus I need thorough testing done before I can say with surety that my case is deep.

    Mom suggested neem (look it up) as a detoxifier. I think I’ll have 2-3 neem leaves daily (will be damn bitter, but is hell as effective). Unlike the products that Analytical Research Labs purports (no offense), neem has been around for thousands of years. I need raw organic neem leaves, will have to search for them. Shouldn’t be hard finding a good source, my country is well known for it.

    Will let you know how it goes once I start! You keep us informed on the Wilson protocol, .

    Edit : Btw, this will interest you, . The neem herb can also be used in *ta-da* enemas!

    #13353

    Michel

    Haha yeah neem leave its a good bet indeed, since its antifungal! I expect some benefits on you from that herb. At least if you have candida this should make it show up.

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    Damn brainfog man, the F*ck its going on this time -__-

    #13354

    Morris

    what do you guys think of some plain old hot sauce on your meats/proteins?

    stimulates release of stomach acids and helps open up the pooper

    =profit!

    #13355

    Trent

    I cant take hot sauce I think its inflammatory. But I am using curry and cayenne pepper in my meals. Tastes good!

    #13356

    Blake

    Aight guys, forget my gut issues for a minute….what is more problematic these days is my bladder.

    I piss way too much than I used to before the problem crept up, atleast 4-5 times during the course of the morning/noon, for example. After urinating, within 5 minutes, I can feel more urine at the back of my urethra on applying a little pressure. There seems to be no end to it. It is at times accompanied by a sharp pinching pain in my anus. Damn that hurts, man.

    I don’t know why but I think somehow that my ejaculations are responsible. I can’t stop nocturnal emissions though :'( it has been 8 weeks since I last masturbated.

    I found this extract from a website explaining the pinching pain -:

    “I’ve had that problem since my early 20’s, and no doctor has ever had a clue. Then I found the answer in a sidebar in Men’s Health magazine: Apparently it can happen if semen backs up into the prostate due to interrupted ejaculation, reverse gravity position, etc, and then hardens (could be hours to days later). They suggested over-hydrating and then “rubbing it out”, but I usually just take a couple of Advil and sleep on my stomach.”

    It seems highly plausible because I had nocturnal emissions last Saturday, Monday and Wednesday(too much, I know). How do I get rid of atleast the anus pain, if not the condition itself??

    #13357

    Elden

    Over the curse of this year of illness, I have had people telling me I have retrograde ejaculation. I do not believe them, nor I would lose time researching how to treat retrograde ejaculation. Because even if I have it, it appeared all of a sudden and obviously its just another symptom that will ressolve when I take care of the biggies (toxins and nutritional defficiencies, infections of any kind)

    For me, you are suffering from prostate problems, like most of the guys here.

    #13358

    Reginald

    REading that post takes me back to when all my symptoms first began, makes me realize how far iv’e come.

    I used to feel like i needed to urinate all day long, and would wake in the night and go to the bathroom anything up to 12-15 times (no shit). Just thinking about sex for a couple of minutes would cause a sticky fluid to dribble out my hard flaccid stricken member.

    I don’t really know for sure what caused all this to stop (except hard flaccid), but my main problem at that time was a massively enlarged prostate, when i sat down it felt like i was sat on a golf ball and when i put my finger up my butt to feel what was going on i could feel this huge smooth and very hard thing there about 2 inches in. Have you given yourself a prostate exam?

    I no longer have an enlarged prostate. I got rid of it long ago (18 months or so). I think the thing that helped most was abstinence as i used to go for months without masturbating. Something else that definitely helped was Broccoli broths. I know they helped because my urine stream went from needle thin to thicker than i ever remember it being so it shows that the prostate is no longer putting to much pressure on the urethra.

    I believe chronic masturbation is one of the main causes of our problems because the adrenal cortex produces a hormone called cortisol. When cortisol levels in the body are lower than they should be, from prolonged stress (chronic masturbation) the adrenal cortex must produce a high level of hormones (sex hormones) over a long period of time; consequently, the cortex becomes tired. Their is usually other factors involved though and the chronic masturbation coupled with these other factors is simply to much for your adrenals to be able to handle and so you inevitably suffer an adrenal crash, which results in your body being full of inflammation. Other factors are poor diet, over-training, drug use, poor sleep, toxicity of some form such as heavy metals, mold, parasites, candida etc. Hope this helps you in some way.

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    #13359

    Efrain

    Yeah undoubtely you were right Reich when linking ejaculation with those problems. You need to find a way to control those night emissions since you have already controlled ejaculations in waking hours. Its very cool you have abstained so early 8 weeks trust me you can be proud of your willpower, when I started abstaining I couldnt do more than week. I never had such a severe problem as lee had, and my urine stream its pretty strong and thick nowadays but when I was mastubating heavily I could feel the pressure on the prostate. One day I ejaculated three times in the same hour and had one hour afterwards of burning prostate, that was one obvious indication.

    Whoever that doesnt link overejaculation with prostate inflammation/irritation its ignoring the most basic physilogy.

    I bet if an animal like lets say a goat would ejaculate everyday (overmasturbator goat grinding against the grass? lol) they would get all shaky, weak and eventually die. sex its cyclical in animals, NOT a daily phenomena. Orgasms are a great drain of etheric and physical energy, and like a treasure you need to use wisely with the right person etc I wish I knew this in the past. But hey lets say I used them with some very special person… with myself Not anymore, im convinced now to only ejaculate with sex, when I recover some erections, of course

    #13360

    Branden

    Thanks for such prompt replies, lee and . All you guys have been very supportive. I too, at times, think that it’s the prostate causing the actual urinary problems.

    Talking about interrupted ejaculation, I have a horrid feeling that ny technique of jerking off all these years was a major contributor…I don’t think I properly released all my spermatic fluid during those sessions. Also, during night time emissions, I sometimes (often) tend to cut off the ejaculation midway, on reflex. There is no doubt as to where that semen ends up then!!

    Speaking of a prostate exam, before I was put on antidepressants by my doc, I had gone to the urologist that he had recommended. The guy was suggesting BOTOX INJECTIONS in my bladder and he performed a prostate exam, which according to him, was inconclusive. Of course I refused botox, it was too costly and I didn’t want to live on a catheter afterwards. That was the only prostate exam I had, lee.

    About the broccoli broths, I’m an active gymmer. Do you think staying off animal fat for 21 days will be conducive to an already low weight (60 kg) physique? I might lose even more weight, this is my only concern…

    Also, I will try to start doing mini sitz-baths today, after gym.

    Lee also brought up a most important issue : urine stream. My urine stream varies from thin to thick. I don’t see any correlation..prostatic issues would imply that my stream must be thin. But yes, as urine is constantly accumulating, I sometimes have to ‘force’ it out, that is, push it out on my own. The stream does not work out on its own at times. This may indicate a prostate problem.

    #13361

    Ted

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    Just stay away from spices as the website states and if your going to eat meat eat chicken (skinless) and i think sardines would be ok too, but chicken def is. You don’t need to change anything else about your diet other than this (assuming it’s a healthy diet already).

    The broccoli broths are very easy to do. I just used 500g broccoli boiled in a litre of water and drank 500ml in am and 500ml in pm on an empty stomach. I also ate the broccoli. You can use frozen broccoli too, and it tends to be cheaper, at least in the UK it does.

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    Yes i should have put that in my last post. I also had trouble with flow sometimes and had to push it out every second or so. THe stream wasn’t always super thin, but it was never really as thick as it should be. The thing is you don’t really notice how much thinner it’s gotten until it go’s back to normal.

    #13362

    Jon

    Very informative, lee! But I’ve been forced to think of another culprit…

    Just a while ago I said “forget my gut issues for a moment”. Before I went to gym, I was reminded in a timely manner that I’m still an IBS sufferer. I had to take a dump, and the 2nd-time dumps I take nowadays require me to force out the crap. They never come out on their own, though I can feel that they’re there. This brings me to the subject of a possibly bloated/distended colon+small intestine.

    Is it possible that my IBS-colon is putting pressure on the bladder and constantly forcing out more urine? The bladder is supposed to store urine and signal me at a later time when I’m supposed to go. There are a few catches – sometimes after forcing out a dump, I have to piss far more (like in the morning or at times in the evening) so it’s not always consistent with relief. Also, the prostate exam that I had was when I was in the thick of my problems (I still am) and that revealed nothing.

    I don’t think it’s BPH, honestly…though it’s true that I never told any of my urologists that I was a chronic masturbator. Maybe if I go to a urologist this time, I will tell my whole story but I will have to go alone lol. My parents still don’t know as I haven’t told them, but they probably have an inkling, they can’t be that dumb.

    Mom thinks that the pinching feeling in my anus is caused by gas. I do have a gas problem, most IBS sufferers do…anything I eat causes gas, no matter what it is that I’m consuming.

    #13363

    Drew

    Reich, for some reason, IBS or any other “chronic” (they are not!) digestive troubles often involve bladder or prostate problems. For example, you could have candida and that thingie does affect all those organs. And more likely than not you are toxic in something, probably heavy metals.

    See this guy with IBS, he lost a year or so until he came out with the root causes. You can benefit of that and save time (if you happen to have similar issues of course):

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    Dont forget to take the neem and report back hey.

    #13364

    Parker

    Quote:

    Yes i’m an IBS sufferer too. It was one of my earliest symptoms. This is just another symptom of adrenal fatigue or possibly also as said, some form of toxicity (in my case candida). What time of the day do you get this constipation? I noticed when my IBS was worst, i’d have diarrhoea in the daytime but then constipation from late afternoon onwards.

    As your on a forum for people that have damaged their body’s partly/mostly through chronic masturbation and your complaining of CLASSIC inflammatory prostate symptoms, that many others including myself are/have been suffering from, would IMO lead me to believe that this is also the case for you. I could be wrong and it could be what your saying, ive just never heard of that happening before.

    What have you been told about IBS? You see the thing is 99% of doctors don’t know what causes IBS so they just tell you it’s nothing to worry about and kick you out the door. IBS is just another symptom of your problems, it’s not a standalone issue. It’s all connected. Plus if you have had IBS for a long time then your nutrient intake from food will have been inhibited, making life harder for your adrenals (among other things) and increasing chances of a crash and cycle of inflammation.

    I could go on and on about this so i’ll end it there but one thing you could do is start taking pre & pro biotic’s to see if you notice much of a difference in you digestive problems. A good one to start with IMO would be Inulin FOS, Now brand. That’s the one i take. You just sprinkle 2-3 grams on each of you main meals. If you notice an improvement then it may mean you have gut flora issues and you’ll need to deal with this. I’d go as far as saying that if you have gut flora issues then you can’t hope to heal your symptoms until you sort this out.

    If you ever want to know the names of any good pre/pro biotics then just PM me.

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    #13365

    Leigh

    well it’s pretty obvious all are connected

    i had the following experiences:

    recently i started squatting again, and my wood is harder, supposedly exercising the quads can increase bloodflow to the penor by 20% for a short time.. cumulative this should add up to more increased bloodflow to the penis

    leg exercises in general should help, but the squat helps in relaxing the pelvic floor imho.. i sit on my ass 8 hours a day so i can imagine thing being constrained there

    where did the squatting toilets go?

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    i imagine this position is WAY better to make a toilet trip

    what about the bowel being clogged up and large enough to press against the bladder? and it pressing (indirectly) against the prostate?

    check out this thread, about varicocele btw:

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    so i also have the experience that if i go to the shitter twice i feel less pressure down there, and wood becomes better (and libido too)

    which is why i keep on hammering on taking a dump twice a day, perhaps by olive oil or any other safe means

    what i also notice about squatting, is that obviously there is more bloodflow, my nuts are being fed with more blood and better.. they are rounder, harder and bigger.. also my varicocele lessens

    well, i would encourage anyone to figure out how to go to the toilet twice a day if possible 3 times

    and start trying some light exercises for the legs.. i now do the lightest weights in the gym for the machines, leg extensions, leg curls, leg press.. everybody prolly thinks i press less than a woman but i am more about functional exercise nowadays instead of wiping myself out.. same with squat light weight high rep don’t kill yourself

    #13366

    Isaiah

    Squatting its interesting, I might need something like that but in a gentle way.

    Of course, I have IBS as well, but it comes and goes and doesnt bothers me as for example my inactive dick haha

    Personally, I have started nutritional balancing. This slowly and safely takes care of adrenal fatigue, heavy metals and digestion. Specifically I will be covering bile, hydrochloric acid and enzymes with the supplement GB3 in the program. Some heavy detox its expected, from Kelp for example (high Iodine content)

    Then, the GI thing. The GI thing requires also a lot of research and money. Luckily, most of the research its already done and god knows I have done my own research lol When some money appears and hopefully I have stabilised in nutritional balancing I will start with an antifungal, as a trial, which its way better than trying to test it. Same for parasites, antiparasitic herbs, but lets say a month or two separated from the mold trial. An alternative could be a trial of Primal Defense or some powerful probiotic to attack both candida and dysbiotic bacteria. When I am pretty sure the pathogens are somewhat under control, things for leaky gut will be the next step. Doing a colon cleanse or at least the schulze´s formulas

    for crapping during this time they say its mandatory. Again more money…

    I think this is very wise, as some people believe you could never beat candida or cure the GI tract while having adrenal fatigue, so they need to be cured almost at the same time. Also, you need adrenal strength to detox heavy metals, and those in part caused you adrenal fatigue lol. Catch 22 its an expression we have become very used to lately isnt it?

    #13367

    Adan

    Sargonnas,

    Yes i agree it is a catch-22 situation, i think the best way to do it is treat candida/parasites with a full protocol i.e diet, pre/pro biotics, anti-fungals, herbs, vitamins etc etc while at the very same time support the adrenals with lots of supps too and also the liver. But yes catch-22 indeed, because the problem is they can both cause each other. Luckily for me ive learned pretty much everything i need to know about adrenal fatigue already, as i thought that was the route cause for almost 2 years. It’s not about research or knowledge or brainfog or anything else for me anymore, it’s about money….

    #13368

    Jorge

    Yeah im in the same situation. Hypertrophy of research and feedback, atrophy of money (the practical thing) haha Guess its time to really find a work or write that bestseller lol I can also try selling some things I have for a kickstart…

    #13369

    Hershel

    Lots of info here! Will go through it after college..see ya then, guys.

    #13370

    Amos

    @ : Oh my God no…

    If you’re telling me to squat, well, I’m in the perfect country for the use of squatting toilets…this style of elimination is called the Indian style for a reason – we use it more than anyone else in the world! Just as using water to wash oneself instead of toilet paper is proving to be more gentle on the arse, I read the benefits of squatting in your article. All my problems are covered – prostate issues and bladder incontinence, as well as IBS.

    Man, I had an intense hate for this style when I was a kid. Now look at where I ended up. I can’t recall anyone who uses this style having colon problems like I do…it all makes sense now. Goddamnit :'(

    @lee : I was diagnosed with IBS much later, when nothing else was working. Personally, I feel now that I shouldn’t have been put on anti-depressants….that may have made my situation worse. It reduced my excess pooping but it also slowed down my elimination considerably. You’re right about doctors being at a loss when they diagnose one with an irritable bowel. I have trouble explaining to my mom now that IBS is a symptom and not a cause – it is a diagnosis of exclusion. I always had the nagging (disheartening) feeling that everything will be up to me now.

    My first poop of the day is at 6:40 in the morning – sometimes it’s not enough, and I poop again in the afternoon or the evening depending on when I get the slightest feeling. The second time always requires me to apply pressure. I always wake up by 6:30 – I have no choice anymore. Besides, I’m preparing for a Masters in engineering, so waking up at that time during the weekend allows me to study.

    I was on lactobacillus recently for mouth ulcers, that course finished today. I’m still on Enterogermina (Bacillus clausii), one capsule per day. I don’t know when that will ever end. Mom tells me not to jump to conclusions as to whether it works for me or not – she cited other known cases of bowel distress where the person had to take Enterogermina for atleast 1 and a half years before their colon was back to normal.

    YES, I feel that my nutrient intake is inhibited. I feel like I’m pooping my life away. I don’t get enough gains in the gym – it’s been 8 months that I’ve been at it, it’s ridiculous! The dumbells I use are at 7.5 kilograms (for the back pullover exercise I use 10 kilograms) but sometimes I have to go down to 5 kilograms (the amount I started with, I remember my hands used to shake then). I started barbell training a month ago, so I’m currently at 2.5 kilogram plates for those. Dumbell training did strengthen me, I will have to admit.

    It’s like my body has hit a road block or a limit, it doesn’t feel like I’m growing further. My parents feel that my primary reason to gym is fitness, which is true, and that muscles will come with (more) time. They also cite my abject lack of physical activity during childhood and puberty/adolescence as a cause, coupled with junk food mongering. I shouldn’t get disheartened so easily (well sheit, I ain’t growing properly here lol) and should soldier on.

    I have no idea what I should do.

    Also, I looked up this Basal Metabolic Rate calculator at some website, and it said my daily calorific intake should be at 2.5k. I don’t think I’m anywhere near that value. I don’t think my body would even digest such a value. It would explain why I’m not growing though.

    @ : If it’s all about money, I’m doomed for now…lol.

    #13371

    Anton

    You need to start with some good probiotic (water kefir its probably the best in terms of allergies, money and strains) you only need to pay for the first batch which its like 10 dollars and from then the kefir its done with sugar, spring water and fruit parts ad infinitum. You also need to start with some digestive aid to ensure/optimize assimilation. Best option and cheapest too its NOW super enzymes. Get it on iherb, the prices are reassonable. This just as a basic start. The kefir grains can be obtained from some hippie owner which normally gift them to strangers thats how I got my first batch lol the kefir grows and grows so its normal that people give it.

    I am gonna get water kefir grains whenever I can (I foolishly dumped that hippie gift months ago) and waiting for my digestive aid. This may sounds like im a desperate idiot playing the expert but guess what, in my toilet its unusual to dont see intact parts of food and I am low in all the vitamins and aminos in blood tests so yeap my assimilation its impaired for sure. I stopped growing at 18, im not short but this fucks me up as I could seriously be a male model with some cms of heightm ore and this illness its screwing my natural good looks. Working fast to see if I can recover something. I have heard of people growing the last sprout even at 23 when they succeed at detoxing and healing. So we are in a similar boat!

    The diet must be super natural and with 70% – 60% of cooked vegetables, excepting the inflamatory ones such as potatoes or peppers and the fruity veggies (those that are watery and have seeds) I can honestly say in this diet my IBS problems (which have been always mild) are ressolved in minor bloating and some burps.

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    Btw I know a kefir expert that cured Ulcerative Colitis and Prostatitis with kefir d´herba medica enemas. Basically water kefir fermented with the herbs targeted to prostate like lets say nettle root. Im still looking for the original recipe, indeed I am gonna contact the guy, Dominic.

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    The guy has a page on kefir grains too: [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    In his page you can read in “other uses for kefir”:

    Quote:

    But the link to the explanation doesnt works!! F*ck.

    #13372

    Keven

    Got it! [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    This is incredible!! I am gonna do this for sure, I have currently diarreah and mucus discharge, and yes IBS etc. I just need to get kefir grains again, why the F*ck did I lose them, both milk and water grains?? The milk ones developed worms when I left them 2 weeks without care and had to dump it. Damnnnn.

    And no, its not ALL about money, you need the info, the research, the knowledge. We already have that!! But think, now I need 50 dollars or so more to buy the kefir grains and the rest of ingredients and I dont have it yet -__- plus the antifungals etc. Imagine a kefir d´herba medica made with neem leaf and jatoba etc that shit would be a blaster.

    #13373

    Ali

    I’m still a bit reluctant about the enemas..I’m going to need supervision for those.

    But kefir…I’m very interested in this. Do I have to get kefir grains and make my own stuff or can I buy readymade kefir?

    #13374

    Britt

    You dont need to do the enemas to get some benefits from kefir, of course. I was just thinking out loud.

    Its mandatory to do your own stuff, its cheaper and more powerful. Readymade kefir its usually of milk (bad for us people with digestive trouble) plus pasteurized aka pure garbage. With only spring bottled water and sugar you will be ready to go!

    #13375

    Ezequiel

    Some nice links here. I might use milk, water and homemade sauerkraut together throughout the day, so thanks for posting them. I wasn’t going to use water kefir but i can see some benefits which milk kefir dos’nt have.

    I’ll be getting all my milk/water grains from here, not sure if they deliver to Europe though.

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    Kefir d’Erba Medica looks good, but i would leave out Saw Palmetto as it inhibits DHT and can cause Finasteride like effects, which is worse than S.E/adrenal fatigue IMO.

    What do you think about Coconut milk kefirs? Once you’ve got your water kefir grains established.

    #13376

    Buster

    Yeah I think exactly the same about Saw Palmetto, that can trigger some hard shit.

    They say coconut water kefir its stronger for candida. I only only I will drink one liter per day at least and enemas of half a quart everyday

    #13377

    Kendrick

    Over the curse of this year of illness, I have had people telling me I have retrograde ejaculation. I do not believe them, nor I would lose time researching how to treat retrograde ejaculation. Because even if I have it, it appeared all of a sudden and obviously its just another symptom that will ressolve when I take care of the biggies (toxins and nutritional defficiencies, infections of any kind)

    For me, you are suffering from prostate problems, like most of the guys here.

    #13378

    Peter

    REading that post takes me back to when all my symptoms first began, makes me realize how far iv’e come.

    I used to feel like i needed to urinate all day long, and would wake in the night and go to the bathroom anything up to 12-15 times (no shit). Just thinking about sex for a couple of minutes would cause a sticky fluid to dribble out my hard flaccid stricken member.

    I don’t really know for sure what caused all this to stop (except hard flaccid), but my main problem at that time was a massively enlarged prostate, when i sat down it felt like i was sat on a golf ball and when i put my finger up my butt to feel what was going on i could feel this huge smooth and very hard thing there about 2 inches in. Have you given yourself a prostate exam?

    I no longer have an enlarged prostate. I got rid of it long ago (18 months or so). I think the thing that helped most was abstinence as i used to go for months without masturbating. Something else that definitely helped was Broccoli broths. I know they helped because my urine stream went from needle thin to thicker than i ever remember it being so it shows that the prostate is no longer putting to much pressure on the urethra.

    I believe chronic masturbation is one of the main causes of our problems because the adrenal cortex produces a hormone called cortisol. When cortisol levels in the body are lower than they should be, from prolonged stress (chronic masturbation) the adrenal cortex must produce a high level of hormones (sex hormones) over a long period of time; consequently, the cortex becomes tired. Their is usually other factors involved though and the chronic masturbation coupled with these other factors is simply to much for your adrenals to be able to handle and so you inevitably suffer an adrenal crash, which results in your body being full of inflammation. Other factors are poor diet, over-training, drug use, poor sleep, toxicity of some form such as heavy metals, mold, parasites, candida etc. Hope this helps you in some way.

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    #13379

    Ben

    Yeah undoubtely you were right Reich when linking ejaculation with those problems. You need to find a way to control those night emissions since you have already controlled ejaculations in waking hours. Its very cool you have abstained so early 8 weeks trust me you can be proud of your willpower, when I started abstaining I couldnt do more than week. I never had such a severe problem as lee had, and my urine stream its pretty strong and thick nowadays but when I was mastubating heavily I could feel the pressure on the prostate. One day I ejaculated three times in the same hour and had one hour afterwards of burning prostate, that was one obvious indication.

    Whoever that doesnt link overejaculation with prostate inflammation/irritation its ignoring the most basic physilogy.

    I bet if an animal like lets say a goat would ejaculate everyday (overmasturbator goat grinding against the grass? lol) they would get all shaky, weak and eventually die. sex its cyclical in animals, NOT a daily phenomena. Orgasms are a great drain of etheric and physical energy, and like a treasure you need to use wisely with the right person etc I wish I knew this in the past. But hey lets say I used them with some very special person… with myself Not anymore, im convinced now to only ejaculate with sex, when I recover some erections, of course

    #13380

    Alfredo

    Thanks for such prompt replies, lee and . All you guys have been very supportive. I too, at times, think that it’s the prostate causing the actual urinary problems.

    Talking about interrupted ejaculation, I have a horrid feeling that ny technique of jerking off all these years was a major contributor…I don’t think I properly released all my spermatic fluid during those sessions. Also, during night time emissions, I sometimes (often) tend to cut off the ejaculation midway, on reflex. There is no doubt as to where that semen ends up then!!

    Speaking of a prostate exam, before I was put on antidepressants by my doc, I had gone to the urologist that he had recommended. The guy was suggesting BOTOX INJECTIONS in my bladder and he performed a prostate exam, which according to him, was inconclusive. Of course I refused botox, it was too costly and I didn’t want to live on a catheter afterwards. That was the only prostate exam I had, lee.

    About the broccoli broths, I’m an active gymmer. Do you think staying off animal fat for 21 days will be conducive to an already low weight (60 kg) physique? I might lose even more weight, this is my only concern…

    Also, I will try to start doing mini sitz-baths today, after gym.

    Lee also brought up a most important issue : urine stream. My urine stream varies from thin to thick. I don’t see any correlation..prostatic issues would imply that my stream must be thin. But yes, as urine is constantly accumulating, I sometimes have to ‘force’ it out, that is, push it out on my own. The stream does not work out on its own at times. This may indicate a prostate problem.

    #13381

    Terrence

    ,

    Quote:

    Just stay away from spices as the website states and if your going to eat meat eat chicken (skinless) and i think sardines would be ok too, but chicken def is. You don’t need to change anything else about your diet other than this (assuming it’s a healthy diet already).

    The broccoli broths are very easy to do. I just used 500g broccoli boiled in a litre of water and drank 500ml in am and 500ml in pm on an empty stomach. I also ate the broccoli. You can use frozen broccoli too, and it tends to be cheaper, at least in the UK it does.

    Quote:

    Yes i should have put that in my last post. I also had trouble with flow sometimes and had to push it out every second or so. THe stream wasn’t always super thin, but it was never really as thick as it should be. The thing is you don’t really notice how much thinner it’s gotten until it go’s back to normal.

    #13382

    Issac

    Very informative, lee! But I’ve been forced to think of another culprit…

    Just a while ago I said “forget my gut issues for a moment”. Before I went to gym, I was reminded in a timely manner that I’m still an IBS sufferer. I had to take a dump, and the 2nd-time dumps I take nowadays require me to force out the crap. They never come out on their own, though I can feel that they’re there. This brings me to the subject of a possibly bloated/distended colon+small intestine.

    Is it possible that my IBS-colon is putting pressure on the bladder and constantly forcing out more urine? The bladder is supposed to store urine and signal me at a later time when I’m supposed to go. There are a few catches – sometimes after forcing out a dump, I have to piss far more (like in the morning or at times in the evening) so it’s not always consistent with relief. Also, the prostate exam that I had was when I was in the thick of my problems (I still am) and that revealed nothing.

    I don’t think it’s BPH, honestly…though it’s true that I never told any of my urologists that I was a chronic masturbator. Maybe if I go to a urologist this time, I will tell my whole story but I will have to go alone lol. My parents still don’t know as I haven’t told them, but they probably have an inkling, they can’t be that dumb.

    Mom thinks that the pinching feeling in my anus is caused by gas. I do have a gas problem, most IBS sufferers do…anything I eat causes gas, no matter what it is that I’m consuming.

    #13383

    Christoper

    Reich, for some reason, IBS or any other “chronic” (they are not!) digestive troubles often involve bladder or prostate problems. For example, you could have candida and that thingie does affect all those organs. And more likely than not you are toxic in something, probably heavy metals.

    See this guy with IBS, he lost a year or so until he came out with the root causes. You can benefit of that and save time (if you happen to have similar issues of course):

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    Dont forget to take the neem and report back hey.

    #13384

    Emmett

    Quote:

    Yes i’m an IBS sufferer too. It was one of my earliest symptoms. This is just another symptom of adrenal fatigue or possibly also as said, some form of toxicity (in my case candida). What time of the day do you get this constipation? I noticed when my IBS was worst, i’d have diarrhoea in the daytime but then constipation from late afternoon onwards.

    As your on a forum for people that have damaged their body’s partly/mostly through chronic masturbation and your complaining of CLASSIC inflammatory prostate symptoms, that many others including myself are/have been suffering from, would IMO lead me to believe that this is also the case for you. I could be wrong and it could be what your saying, ive just never heard of that happening before.

    What have you been told about IBS? You see the thing is 99% of doctors don’t know what causes IBS so they just tell you it’s nothing to worry about and kick you out the door. IBS is just another symptom of your problems, it’s not a standalone issue. It’s all connected. Plus if you have had IBS for a long time then your nutrient intake from food will have been inhibited, making life harder for your adrenals (among other things) and increasing chances of a crash and cycle of inflammation.

    I could go on and on about this so i’ll end it there but one thing you could do is start taking pre & pro biotic’s to see if you notice much of a difference in you digestive problems. A good one to start with IMO would be Inulin FOS, Now brand. That’s the one i take. You just sprinkle 2-3 grams on each of you main meals. If you notice an improvement then it may mean you have gut flora issues and you’ll need to deal with this. I’d go as far as saying that if you have gut flora issues then you can’t hope to heal your symptoms until you sort this out.

    If you ever want to know the names of any good pre/pro biotics then just PM me.

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    #13385

    Oscar

    well it’s pretty obvious all are connected

    i had the following experiences:

    recently i started squatting again, and my wood is harder, supposedly exercising the quads can increase bloodflow to the penor by 20% for a short time.. cumulative this should add up to more increased bloodflow to the penis

    leg exercises in general should help, but the squat helps in relaxing the pelvic floor imho.. i sit on my ass 8 hours a day so i can imagine thing being constrained there

    where did the squatting toilets go?

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    i imagine this position is WAY better to make a toilet trip

    what about the bowel being clogged up and large enough to press against the bladder? and it pressing (indirectly) against the prostate?

    check out this thread, about varicocele btw:

    [MOD EDIT: URL Removed]

    so i also have the experience that if i go to the shitter twice i feel less pressure down there, and wood becomes better (and libido too)

    which is why i keep on hammering on taking a dump twice a day, perhaps by olive oil or any other safe means

    what i also notice about squatting, is that obviously there is more bloodflow, my nuts are being fed with more blood and better.. they are rounder, harder and bigger.. also my varicocele lessens

    well, i would encourage anyone to figure out how to go to the toilet twice a day if possible 3 times

    and start trying some light exercises for the legs.. i now do the lightest weights in the gym for the machines, leg extensions, leg curls, leg press.. everybody prolly thinks i press less than a woman but i am more about functional exercise nowadays instead of wiping myself out.. same with squat light weight high rep don’t kill yourself

    #13386

    Roger

    Squatting its interesting, I might need something like that but in a gentle way.

    Of course, I have IBS as well, but it comes and goes and doesnt bothers me as for example my inactive dick haha

    Personally, I have started nutritional balancing. This slowly and safely takes care of adrenal fatigue, heavy metals and digestion. Specifically I will be covering bile, hydrochloric acid and enzymes with the supplement GB3 in the program. Some heavy detox its expected, from Kelp for example (high Iodine content)

    Then, the GI thing. The GI thing requires also a lot of research and money. Luckily, most of the research its already done and god knows I have done my own research lol When some money appears and hopefully I have stabilised in nutritional balancing I will start with an antifungal, as a trial, which its way better than trying to test it. Same for parasites, antiparasitic herbs, but lets say a month or two separated from the mold trial. An alternative could be a trial of Primal Defense or some powerful probiotic to attack both candida and dysbiotic bacteria. When I am pretty sure the pathogens are somewhat under control, things for leaky gut will be the next step. Doing a colon cleanse or at least the schulze´s formulas

    for crapping during this time they say its mandatory. Again more money…

    I think this is very wise, as some people believe you could never beat candida or cure the GI tract while having adrenal fatigue, so they need to be cured almost at the same time. Also, you need adrenal strength to detox heavy metals, and those in part caused you adrenal fatigue lol. Catch 22 its an expression we have become very used to lately isnt it?

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