Questions for Max and other veterans!!

Sexual Reboot Forum Questions for Max and other veterans!!

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  • #13998

    Hal

    Hey Max, and anyone else who has been present with this forum for quite a while.

    I just took the time to find some good older posts ranging all the way back to like 2007. I know you’ve posted a thousand times since then and know more about this than I do, so i just want to ask for your summary on some key things!

    The problem started for me after taking ecstasy for like the fourth time. As I’ve learned it depleted me of serotonin. That + combination of having sex everyday with the gf at the time is probably what did it. Basically, often my penis is hard/firm/stiff in its flaccid state and shrank from its flaccid hang of 4 inches to like 2-4. If I don’t touch it, everything retuns to 100% within 7 days usualy. So things could’ve been worse, but I gotta deal with what I got. I’ve had this for 9 months and only learned all the correct steps to recovery as of like 2 weeks ago, and now going to try abstain from porn for a few weeks and see what will happen.

    So, a few questions:

    1. How did the discussion with raw eggs end? Do you still eat 4-6 raw egg yolks a day?

    I got no problem eating 6 eggs raw. But people were saying it’s better to just eat yolk and throw out the whites because they interfere with biotin absorbtion. Is this true? I’d rather eat all 4-6 whole, seems like a waste of egg whites. (+ my mom will make me pay for them).

    2. Did people find htp-5 to be useful throughout the years? I’m gonna try it out when I get it in 2 weeks. Really hope it helps boost up serotonin (which is my main concern). Have you taken it? Found it to help?

    3. What are your thoughts on taking a multi-vitamin? People mentioned that if you’re eating healthy you’re getting most vitamins and minerals from food. Taking a multi-vitamin on top of that would lead to an overdose of certain vitamins (perhaps Bs and iron in my case), which would make the body down regulate its own production of B and iron. So on the long run, the body would be making less B and iron (and other vitamins) and being dependant on the multi-vitamin as a source of them. On the other hand of the dilema, it’s very difficult to actually get all vitamins and minerals from food, especially ones like biotin, iodone, selenium, and so on, and would be very hard to eat the same foods everyday. So the question is should one just start taking the multi-vitamin and keep taking it for the rest of his life, or just try to get everything from food. How did you go about this? How did other throughout the years??

    4. Have others on the forum also experience the ‘hard flaccid penis? After ejaculation, when my prolactin and inflammatory prostaglandin E2 shoot up, my penis becomes ‘firm’ in its flaccid state. It is rigid to the touch and feels weird. Erections in this state are not comfortable and are only like 80% of their normal size. I know others have penis shrinkage as a symtom of sexual exhaustion, but have others also reported this ‘hardness’ in the flaccid state?

    5. Have there been people on this forum that have treated themselves out of SE? Are you over it, Max? I am hoping to be over this in a few months. No rush, but that seems like a reasonable time, assuming the 5-htp, GABA, L’arginine and so on will do something for me.

    Thanks so much if you, or anyone else, finds the time to answer these questions!

    Any other comments for someone with my situation? Seems like I could find nobody else on this website that has had SE induced by mdma (ecstasy).

    Thanks again.

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    #13999

    Stefan

    I still do raw eggs. sometimes i do the whole raw egg and sometimes just the yolk. Do what you like. It would be best to cook the white though. But you can consume both raw. 2-4 a day would be good. just make sure there organic eggs / free range

    this is a decent multi

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    you can try those supplements. It may help a little. I know some guys experience good erections at night when they take like 2g of gaba before bed.

    I don’t think I have found to many people that succeeded on 5-htp. But you can try.

    #14000

    Errol

    Sounds good. Seems like a decent multi-vitamin

    #14001

    Erich

    When taking X back in the day it was highly recommended to take 5 htp as it helps replenish the serotonin that was depleted by excessive of dopamine which wa giving you the high. As for flacid and unflacid state simple not wearing underwear can make the difference or even if you are dehydrated or drinking too much caffeine. There are too many variables that wil dictate how low you will hang. I would look into having your neurotransmitters checked along with thyroid and adrenal, sex hormones to see if there are an imbalances that may be causing this. Some times symptoms over lap and it can make it difficult to distinguish between the 2. People start guessing and asusming things experimenting and making matters worse by the time they actually get the right help. Some time we are our own worst enemies.

    #14002

    Tod

    Are you saying that most people with SE probably have excessive dopamine? I always thought it was the opposite.

    #14003

    Jackson

    No he was saying only when you’re high on X you have excessive dopamine, which is what gives you the “euphoria”, then it wears off.. and you’re left with SE lol (joke.. but not really)

    , you’re right, the best thing for me to do is probably get all those tests done. I’ve had a blood test done about a month ago and it was such a drag because the doc at the walk-in-clinic was an idiot. First he wouldn’t believe of the ‘hard flaccid penis’ which didn’t surprise me. Then I gave him a list of all hormones I wanted to get checked, he said he doesn’t know a lot of them and thinks they are irrelevant. Back then I didn’t know as much about SE as I do now. Anyway in the end I got the test for 6 hormones. Prolactin was very high, it was 12, ( <18 ) being normal range. And cortisol was on the higher end. Testasterone and other things were good.

    I want to get tested for everything you listed, but I saw in other posts that some tests cost up to $350?! I don’t even have enough for the supplements at the moment.

    Could you, or anyone actually, give me a list of the mandatory hormones to get checked regarding adrenal function, sex, thyroid, and neurotransmitters. I don’t think I need to get tested for things like vit D and A. I eat very healthy, exercise regularly, and take a multi-vitamin. So only the mandatory ones please. (preferably free!)

    I live in Toronto, Canada. I don’t have a clue where to get tested for neurotrasmitters, unless they’ll do it at a walk-in-clinic. Maybe somebody knows who to go to?

    Thanks.

    #14004

    Normand

    Canda health system really sucks and very difficult getting the test done properly. I would not know where to begin to even find a practioner that is going to intiate that. From dealing with many cannucks clientss there are current trends that I am seeing with people that not to medical Dr’s are even catching on to. If you want to set up a consultation may be we can pinpoint things through intensive medical history that may hold key to your issues. It may be that some thing may be out of balance which just has not been caught. PM me for details

    #14005

    Virgilio

    , do you know if the ecstasy pills you took were pure? if you aren’t sure you should look them up online, if you remember what kind they were. MDMA in itself is actually not that bad in my opinion. i rolled last week (pure MDMA) and had the best night of my night, and had no comedown at all. my mood has been elevated since and i now know how to dance well.

    i’m guessing that the last time you rolled you had sex for a very long time, which i hear can sexually exhaust you in itself. mdma definitely makes you last much longer, but if u had twacky pills that could’ve been what did it. meth is much more taxing on the body. mdma boosts several neurotransmitters, especially serotonin, but i think tweek mostly boosts dopamine. i’m really not sure how or why all this effects your sexual exhaustion or the sex you had that day, but you should look into what i’m talking about. it might be your dopamine levels that are fucking u up

    great research by the way, i like your style

    #14006

    Cleo

    4. Have others on the forum also experience the ‘hard flaccid penis?

    Yes experience this. Am not sure what the problem is, seems like blood circulation is very weak. The prostaglandin hormones may be involved.

    I am loss about where to go on from here, need to get a blood test and the MDs don’t like giving them out. I will soon though.

    #14007

    Len

    Thanks for the input alex.

    I’ve done ecstasy 4 times in my life (more technically 3 because once was too weak) and I’ve done pure powder mdma twice, as soon as I discovered that such a thing exists. Yup, pure mdma is wayy more enjoyable then E, with a much lighter comedown/crash. Id never consider going back to E after trying pure.

    I like hearing that you had the best night of your life. I had great times on it also

    I never had sex while on E/mdma. Partly because my dick shrivels up and I have no interest in it at all, and partly because everything else is so overwhelming I just wanna enjoy the music, people’s company, chat. I found out it affects people’s libido differently. There are people that can easily get it up and have sex while rolling, there are those that couldn’t get it up for their life (probably myself), and everything in between. It varies completely from person to person. On mdma forums I noticed roughly half the people saying they have no interest in sex/ shrunken member, while other half don’t have this. I suspect it’s because it varies hormonal/neutorasmitter levels differently in different people and different people are more prone to different things (like erectile dysfunction).

    I have no clue what was in the pills that I took on all 3 occasions. I either got them from friends or a random dealer at the club (which was stupid). The first and second time I done E were spread a year apart, and it didn;t affect my libido AT ALL the day after, which is very weird, because the third time I took it, it totaly fucked me up.

    The third time was spaced only like 4 days after the second. During that week I was working landscaping on some days, definitely didn;t get much sleep, and was having sex with the gf like twice a day every other day. So what I assume happened was: work + lack of sleep = depleted me of serotonin, sex = depleted me of serotonin, doing E twice that week, 2 pills each role = more depletion of serotonin. I woke up the next day with my dick limp and shrunken, and pretty much since I’ve had this on and off.

    That thirs time I rolled actually was speedier then the first 2 and I had by far the worst hangover the day after, practically got no sleep at all. So for months I believed that the pills were definitely laced with something like meth and that’s what caused my ED. Around 6 months since the 3rd roll I did pure mdma, and a couple weeks after, did it again. That last time was New Years, and since then I really started paying attention to this ‘hard flaccid penis’ issue I been having + low libido.

    Now I know that I should have waited to fully recover before doing mdma because I just added to the damage that was already done, but oh well, can’t change the past.

    SO, what i found out: first i came across a forum pf people discussign the ‘hard flaccid penis’ issue. Only me and 2 others on the whole net reported having this after taking E, but at least if there are others I knew for the sure E induced this. Nobody else on the forum had done E, but reported almost identical symptoms, which was very weird.

    Then just recently I came across Dr. Richards website, who had explanations for everyone. He explained why the ‘hard flaccid’ is caused: basically it can either be caused by sexual exhaustion or jelquing (stretching) exercises injury. Then I asked him about ecstasy and he posted an article for me about mdma. He explained how it destroys serotonin synapses or something and basically if you’re gonna do mdma you need to fuel yourself with 5-htp before and after (wish I knew that before). He said to abstain from sex/masturbating, get all your vitamins/minerals, buy his 5-htp, GABA, L’arginine, and don’t have negative thoughts. He explained that the hard flaccid and SE is caused by high levels of prolactin and inflammatory prostaglandin.

    I went and got a blood test done. My prolactin and cortisol (stress) actually were very high.

    Then recently I came across this site.

    So what I discovered: first is that it probably didn’t matter if the E pills were laced that time or not, it was the actual mdma that put my serotonin (most likely) off balance. So that fourth and fifth time I did pure mdma definitely didn’t help. It COULD be that the pills were in fact laced with Meth and maybe fucked with my dopamine levels, but I got no way of finding out :S. I realized it was probably the combination of work + sex + E that probably trigered this. So it was not a direct form of SE, but an indirect way by messing with my serotonin. My penis gets stiff after ejaculation and I need to wait 5-7 days for things to return to normal. That sounds like symptoms of SE.

    Throughout the past 9 months, I’ve had intervals where the ‘hard flaccid’ would go away for around 2 weeks spontaniously and my libido returned to normal but then come back to the same thing.

    From this forum I learned SE could be caused by prolactin+inflamation, high estradiol levels, hypothyroidism and other things. Since I can’t afford taking the hormone/neurotrasmitter tests right now, I figured I’d take ALL precautions. So as of last week I eat raw eggs, exercise consistantly, take a multi vitamin + fish oil, eat healthy, and try to do everythign right. I even started getting more tyrosine from turkey and yogurt and doing more cardio in case the problem really does lie in dopamine. And the result for the past 2 weeks: NO CHANGES AT ALL :s. The hard flaccid hasn’t gone away within the past 8 days, and i can;t remember the last time i got a spontanious erection.

    It’s very puzzling because in the past few months I didn’t know I had to abstain from ejaculating for as long as neccesary and I would have sex/masturbate even with a stiff 80% erection. But i WOULD have intervals when the condition would go away for like a week, and I DID have spontanious erecttions sometimes. There was no pattern at all, but my point is that it doesn;t seem like I;ve improved. Now I already know abstain from masturbating and everything and so far no result at all. :S

    I feel like I’ve already gotten a far way in terms of figuring this whole thing out, and feel like I’m very close to solving it, but yet there’s still some problem somewhere that’s out of my control. It could be my serotonin or my dopamine. I highly doubt I got problems with estradiol or thyroid, since I’ve lived a healthy lifestyle my whole life, and E would have no impact on those 2 factors. I do believe though it’s my serotonin/dopamine problem + cortisol (stress). There is no other explanation why I’m not getting better now. My only explanation is that my sleeping pattern’s been totaly fucked this week (exams), and I’ve been thinking about this issue a lot more then I should (but can you blame me), and perhaps not getting enough sun. Forgot to add: my testicles have also been smaller in the past 2 weeks, which I’ve never had last for more then like 3 days before. The great news just keep pilling..

    I HOPE that the problem lies in serotonin because I plan on buying the 5-htp and GABA and really hope they make some difference. If no, then I guess I will have to get the neurotrasmitter tests for $ and keep trying to solve this.

    Another thing: I’ve been smoking weed aroudn once or twice a week in the past 9 months. I asked Dr. Richards what he has to say about that and he said IT’S HORRIBLE. It alternates gene expression and should be avoided for people with neurotrasm. imbalances (me). So I guess I haven’t been contributing to my success much, however the funny thing is, I’ve had those 2 week intervals when things returned to normal during times when I smoked weed, and now that I stopped as of two weeks ago, no success at all. Go figure :S

    Bottomline: I’ve cut out the weed + shrooms and gona limit alcohol until this is over. I plan on abstaining from porn/sex for weeks, for prolactin and inflamation levels to drop, I plan on getting the 5-htp, GABA, and Arginine soon, plan on keeping a healthy lifestyle and having a consistant sleeping pattern and plan on thinking about my libido a lot LESS. Hopefully that’ll do it. If no, then my problem is more serious then I suspect and I’ll have to see if its the serotonin or dopamine or w/e else that is causing this.

    Tells your friends that do mdma to pre-load on 5-htp and take more of it the next day! My experience with this SE has really been something.. :S

    All the best..

    #14008

    Bryan

    Thanks for the input alex.

    I’ve done ecstasy 4 times in my life (more technically 3 because once was too weak) and I’ve done pure powder mdma twice, as soon as I discovered that such a thing exists. Yup, pure mdma is wayy more enjoyable then E, with a much lighter comedown/crash. Id never consider going back to E after trying pure.

    I like hearing that you had the best night of your life. I had great times on it also

    I never had sex while on E/mdma. Partly because my dick shrivels up and I have no interest in it at all, and partly because everything else is so overwhelming I just wanna enjoy the music, people’s company, chat. I found out it affects people’s libido differently. There are people that can easily get it up and have sex while rolling, there are those that couldn’t get it up for their life (probably myself), and everything in between. It varies completely from person to person. On mdma forums I noticed roughly half the people saying they have no interest in sex/ shrunken member, while other half don’t have this. I suspect it’s because it varies hormonal/neutorasmitter levels differently in different people and different people are more prone to different things (like erectile dysfunction).

    I have no clue what was in the pills that I took on all 3 occasions. I either got them from friends or a random dealer at the club (which was stupid). The first and second time I done E were spread a year apart, and it didn;t affect my libido AT ALL the day after, which is very weird, because the third time I took it, it totaly fucked me up.

    The third time was spaced only like 4 days after the second. During that week I was working landscaping on some days, definitely didn;t get much sleep, and was having sex with the gf like twice a day every other day. So what I assume happened was: work + lack of sleep = depleted me of serotonin, sex = depleted me of serotonin, doing E twice that week, 2 pills each role = more depletion of serotonin. I woke up the next day with my dick limp and shrunken, and pretty much since I’ve had this on and off.

    That thirs time I rolled actually was speedier then the first 2 and I had by far the worst hangover the day after, practically got no sleep at all. So for months I believed that the pills were definitely laced with something like meth and that’s what caused my ED. Around 6 months since the 3rd roll I did pure mdma, and a couple weeks after, did it again. That last time was New Years, and since then I really started paying attention to this ‘hard flaccid penis’ issue I been having + low libido.

    Now I know that I should have waited to fully recover before doing mdma because I just added to the damage that was already done, but oh well, can’t change the past.

    SO, what i found out: first i came across a forum pf people discussign the ‘hard flaccid penis’ issue. Only me and 2 others on the whole net reported having this after taking E, but at least if there are others I knew for the sure E induced this. Nobody else on the forum had done E, but reported almost identical symptoms, which was very weird.

    Then just recently I came across Dr. Richards website, who had explanations for everyone. He explained why the ‘hard flaccid’ is caused: basically it can either be caused by sexual exhaustion or jelquing (stretching) exercises injury. Then I asked him about ecstasy and he posted an article for me about mdma. He explained how it destroys serotonin synapses or something and basically if you’re gonna do mdma you need to fuel yourself with 5-htp before and after (wish I knew that before). He said to abstain from sex/masturbating, get all your vitamins/minerals, buy his 5-htp, GABA, L’arginine, and don’t have negative thoughts. He explained that the hard flaccid and SE is caused by high levels of prolactin and inflammatory prostaglandin.

    I went and got a blood test done. My prolactin and cortisol (stress) actually were very high.

    Then recently I came across this site.

    So what I discovered: first is that it probably didn’t matter if the E pills were laced that time or not, it was the actual mdma that put my serotonin (most likely) off balance. So that fourth and fifth time I did pure mdma definitely didn’t help. It COULD be that the pills were in fact laced with Meth and maybe fucked with my dopamine levels, but I got no way of finding out :S. I realized it was probably the combination of work + sex + E that probably trigered this. So it was not a direct form of SE, but an indirect way by messing with my serotonin. My penis gets stiff after ejaculation and I need to wait 5-7 days for things to return to normal. That sounds like symptoms of SE.

    Throughout the past 9 months, I’ve had intervals where the ‘hard flaccid’ would go away for around 2 weeks spontaniously and my libido returned to normal but then come back to the same thing.

    From this forum I learned SE could be caused by prolactin+inflamation, high estradiol levels, hypothyroidism and other things. Since I can’t afford taking the hormone/neurotrasmitter tests right now, I figured I’d take ALL precautions. So as of last week I eat raw eggs, exercise consistantly, take a multi vitamin + fish oil, eat healthy, and try to do everythign right. I even started getting more tyrosine from turkey and yogurt and doing more cardio in case the problem really does lie in dopamine. And the result for the past 2 weeks: NO CHANGES AT ALL :s. The hard flaccid hasn’t gone away within the past 8 days, and i can;t remember the last time i got a spontanious erection.

    It’s very puzzling because in the past few months I didn’t know I had to abstain from ejaculating for as long as neccesary and I would have sex/masturbate even with a stiff 80% erection. But i WOULD have intervals when the condition would go away for like a week, and I DID have spontanious erecttions sometimes. There was no pattern at all, but my point is that it doesn;t seem like I;ve improved. Now I already know abstain from masturbating and everything and so far no result at all. :S

    I feel like I’ve already gotten a far way in terms of figuring this whole thing out, and feel like I’m very close to solving it, but yet there’s still some problem somewhere that’s out of my control. It could be my serotonin or my dopamine. I highly doubt I got problems with estradiol or thyroid, since I’ve lived a healthy lifestyle my whole life, and E would have no impact on those 2 factors. I do believe though it’s my serotonin/dopamine problem + cortisol (stress). There is no other explanation why I’m not getting better now. My only explanation is that my sleeping pattern’s been totaly fucked this week (exams), and I’ve been thinking about this issue a lot more then I should (but can you blame me), and perhaps not getting enough sun. Forgot to add: my testicles have also been smaller in the past 2 weeks, which I’ve never had last for more then like 3 days before. The great news just keep pilling..

    I HOPE that the problem lies in serotonin because I plan on buying the 5-htp and GABA and really hope they make some difference. If no, then I guess I will have to get the neurotrasmitter tests for $ and keep trying to solve this.

    Another thing: I’ve been smoking weed aroudn once or twice a week in the past 9 months. I asked Dr. Richards what he has to say about that and he said IT’S HORRIBLE. It alternates gene expression and should be avoided for people with neurotrasm. imbalances (me). So I guess I haven’t been contributing to my success much, however the funny thing is, I’ve had those 2 week intervals when things returned to normal during times when I smoked weed, and now that I stopped as of two weeks ago, no success at all. Go figure :S

    Bottomline: I’ve cut out the weed + shrooms and gona limit alcohol until this is over. I plan on abstaining from porn/sex for weeks, for prolactin and inflamation levels to drop, I plan on getting the 5-htp, GABA, and Arginine soon, plan on keeping a healthy lifestyle and having a consistant sleeping pattern and plan on thinking about my libido a lot LESS. Hopefully that’ll do it. If no, then my problem is more serious then I suspect and I’ll have to see if its the serotonin or dopamine or w/e else that is causing this.

    Tells your friends that do mdma to pre-load on 5-htp and take more of it the next day! My experience with this SE has really been something.. :S

    All the best..

    Dude I know that when I smoke pot my dick shrivles up and shit. It sucks lol I didn’t think much of it until it got worse and worse…I don’t know but I was heavily into jerking off and they both seemed to make the problem worse and shit.. thought I was the only one experiencing that shit lol

    #14009

    Grant

    I say you and I compare the pattern of the ‘hard flaccid’ we are experiencing so we can work out possible causes.

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    Read up about the hard flaccid. He seems to be the only doctor that knows the science behind it. He says its caused by excess prostaglandin E-2 (inflamatory), with low levels of prostaglandin E1 and E3 (the good ones), high prolactin levels, and low nitric oxide at the tissues. I don’t think his products will do much to target the hard flaccid, other then the L’arginine which is a precursor for nitric oxide -> causes vasodilation – > improved circulation.

    You should take a free blood test as soon as possible for general hormones including prolactin, testastorone, and cortisol. People with the hard flaccid should have high prolactin (which makes refractory time after ejaculation days and not hours), low test. and high cortisol.

    The 1 test that I took a month ago showed decent testastorone, but very high prolactin: 12 ( 0-18 ) being normal, when it normally should be 4-5, and high cortisol, but cortisol fluctuates day to day.

    The ‘hard flaccid’ is the most puzzling piece for me also. Sometimes it goes away, and sometimes it doesn’t, and I don’t see a direct link to lifestyle. As I said, in the past 2 weeks I been keeping everything clean other then sleeping patterns, but the hard flaccid is still here after like 8 days :S.

    I plan on starting a log so I can figure out what’s been happening when the hard flaccid starts to go away, and what happens on days when it returns. I’ve been also meaning to get a blood test every several days to see if prolactin drops over time (my main concern).

    You should do the same. We’ll compare the results and lifestyle habbits.

    #14010

    Solomon

    , what kinda problem are you experiencing? Just like weak erections and low libido because of over masturbating? Or the ‘hard flaccid’ issue?

    Cuz I figured they are a bit different problems. When I was having the hard flaccid (and still do), sometimes I had NORMAL sex drive, I would get full erections on demand, but they felt weird and weren’t full size, and were stiff. When I smoked weed it actually felt as if more blood was rushing down there. Erections felt stronger and sometimes I had more sex drive. Other times I actually had less sex drive. But I was convinced that weed helps ‘relax’ the muscles down there and helped the stiffness go away, so I used to masturbate while high a lot.

    And now a doctor at this told me I was completely wrong lol, and need to cut out the chronic until the SE is over.

    #14011

    Isaias

    Yeah man before I started smoking weed I was so freaking addicted to porn. Every single day watch porn all day ejaculate on average 15 times per day. I was worn out and then I got into smoking with my friends and shit and like my dick would just go numb and shit.. Really wierd so I smoked for a while and said he wtf man id rather jerk off than smoke. lol so I got my boners back a little bit and was able to jerk off the last stuff in my body until I couldn’t masturbate for more than a month because I had so low energy. I was so exhausted I honestly couldn’t do anything… Now two years later or so I am actually getting back to normal I have stopped jerking off for a few weeks and feel better I was still at a few times a week and the more i did the crazyier

    #14012

    Granville

    crazy shit man… I couldn’t possibly bust more then 3 times in a day i’d feel sick lol.

    So you basicaly got textbook SE. You got nothin to worry about it’ll go away with time when hormones/neurotransmitters stabilize.

    This hard flaccid issue I’m having is different. I don’t know why the F*ck it’s that way, I donno when it’ll go away and come back and I don’t really have control over it. I’m just gonna try to do everything right for 1 month and see where it gets me. Sigh I had mad plans for the summer.. beach, girls, shrooms. Now it’ll be more like beach, gym, this forum.. lol kidding

    This has been a crazy experience though. I tried having sex with the ex when I just got this and would always bust prematurely because of this and she wouldn’t believe It was because of the SE lol. I was about to hook up with a chick once and realized that I probably wouldn’t get a boner if I tried and just bailed on her. Sitting there at a strip club on buddys birthdays telling strippers to F*ck off. Funny but sad at the same time :S

    #14013

    Casey

    [quote=””][quote=””], do you know if the ecstasy pills you took were pure? if you aren’t sure you should look them up online, if you remember what kind they were. MDMA in itself is actually not that bad in my opinion. i rolled last week (pure MDMA) and had the best night of my night, and had no comedown at all. my mood has been elevated since and i now know how to dance well.

    i’m guessing that the last time you rolled you had sex for a very long time, which i hear can sexually exhaust you in itself. mdma definitely makes you last much longer, but if u had twacky pills that could’ve been what did it. meth is much more taxing on the body. mdma boosts several neurotransmitters, especially serotonin, but i think tweek mostly boosts dopamine. i’m really not sure how or why all this effects your sexual exhaustion or the sex you had that day, but you should look into what i’m talking about. it might be your dopamine levels that are fucking u up

    great research by the way, i like your style[/quote]

    Thanks for the input alex.

    I’ve done ecstasy 4 times in my life (more technically 3 because once was too weak) and I’ve done pure powder mdma twice, as soon as I discovered that such a thing exists. Yup, pure mdma is wayy more enjoyable then E, with a much lighter comedown/crash. Id never consider going back to E after trying pure.

    I like hearing that you had the best night of your life. I had great times on it also 8)

    I never had sex while on E/mdma. Partly because my dick shrivels up and I have no interest in it at all, and partly because everything else is so overwhelming I just wanna enjoy the music, people’s company, chat. I found out it affects people’s libido differently. There are people that can easily get it up and have sex while rolling, there are those that couldn’t get it up for their life (probably myself), and everything in between. It varies completely from person to person. On mdma forums I noticed roughly half the people saying they have no interest in sex/ shrunken member, while other half don’t have this. I suspect it’s because it varies hormonal/neutorasmitter levels differently in different people and different people are more prone to different things (like erectile dysfunction).

    I have no clue what was in the pills that I took on all 3 occasions. I either got them from friends or a random dealer at the club (which was stupid). The first and second time I done E were spread a year apart, and it didn;t affect my libido AT ALL the day after, which is very weird, because the third time I took it, it totaly fucked me up.

    The third time was spaced only like 4 days after the second. During that week I was working landscaping on some days, definitely didn;t get much sleep, and was having sex with the gf like twice a day every other day. So what I assume happened was: work + lack of sleep = depleted me of serotonin, sex = depleted me of serotonin, doing E twice that week, 2 pills each role = more depletion of serotonin. I woke up the next day with my dick limp and shrunken, and pretty much since I’ve had this on and off.

    That thirs time I rolled actually was speedier then the first 2 and I had by far the worst hangover the day after, practically got no sleep at all. So for months I believed that the pills were definitely laced with something like meth and that’s what caused my ED. Around 6 months since the 3rd roll I did pure mdma, and a couple weeks after, did it again. That last time was New Years, and since then I really started paying attention to this ‘hard flaccid penis’ issue I been having + low libido.

    Now I know that I should have waited to fully recover before doing mdma because I just added to the damage that was already done, but oh well, can’t change the past.

    SO, what i found out: first i came across a forum pf people discussign the ‘hard flaccid penis’ issue. Only me and 2 others on the whole net reported having this after taking E, but at least if there are others I knew for the sure E induced this. Nobody else on the forum had done E, but reported almost identical symptoms, which was very weird.

    Then just recently I came across Dr. Richards website, who had explanations for everyone. He explained why the ‘hard flaccid’ is caused: basically it can either be caused by sexual exhaustion or jelquing (stretching) exercises injury. Then I asked him about ecstasy and he posted an article for me about mdma. He explained how it destroys serotonin synapses or something and basically if you’re gonna do mdma you need to fuel yourself with 5-htp before and after (wish I knew that before). He said to abstain from sex/masturbating, get all your vitamins/minerals, buy his 5-htp, GABA, L’arginine, and don’t have negative thoughts. He explained that the hard flaccid and SE is caused by high levels of prolactin and inflammatory prostaglandin.

    I went and got a blood test done. My prolactin and cortisol (stress) actually were very high.

    Then recently I came across this site.

    So what I discovered: first is that it probably didn’t matter if the E pills were laced that time or not, it was the actual mdma that put my serotonin (most likely) off balance. So that fourth and fifth time I did pure mdma definitely didn’t help. It COULD be that the pills were in fact laced with Meth and maybe fucked with my dopamine levels, but I got no way of finding out :S. I realized it was probably the combination of work + sex + E that probably trigered this. So it was not a direct form of SE, but an indirect way by messing with my serotonin. My penis gets stiff after ejaculation and I need to wait 5-7 days for things to return to normal. That sounds like symptoms of SE.

    Throughout the past 9 months, I’ve had intervals where the ‘hard flaccid’ would go away for around 2 weeks spontaniously and my libido returned to normal but then come back to the same thing.

    From this forum I learned SE could be caused by prolactin+inflamation, high estradiol levels, hypothyroidism and other things. Since I can’t afford taking the hormone/neurotrasmitter tests right now, I figured I’d take ALL precautions. So as of last week I eat raw eggs, exercise consistantly, take a multi vitamin + fish oil, eat healthy, and try to do everythign right. I even started getting more tyrosine from turkey and yogurt and doing more cardio in case the problem really does lie in dopamine. And the result for the past 2 weeks: NO CHANGES AT ALL :s. The hard flaccid hasn’t gone away within the past 8 days, and i can;t remember the last time i got a spontanious erection.

    It’s very puzzling because in the past few months I didn’t know I had to abstain from ejaculating for as long as neccesary and I would have sex/masturbate even with a stiff 80% erection. But i WOULD have intervals when the condition would go away for like a week, and I DID have spontanious erecttions sometimes. There was no pattern at all, but my point is that it doesn;t seem like I;ve improved. Now I already know abstain from masturbating and everything and so far no result at all. :S

    I feel like I’ve already gotten a far way in terms of figuring this whole thing out, and feel like I’m very close to solving it, but yet there’s still some problem somewhere that’s out of my control. It could be my serotonin or my dopamine. I highly doubt I got problems with estradiol or thyroid, since I’ve lived a healthy lifestyle my whole life, and E would have no impact on those 2 factors. I do believe though it’s my serotonin/dopamine problem + cortisol (stress). There is no other explanation why I’m not getting better now. My only explanation is that my sleeping pattern’s been totaly fucked this week (exams), and I’ve been thinking about this issue a lot more then I should (but can you blame me), and perhaps not getting enough sun. Forgot to add: my testicles have also been smaller in the past 2 weeks, which I’ve never had last for more then like 3 days before. The great news just keep pilling..

    I HOPE that the problem lies in serotonin because I plan on buying the 5-htp and GABA and really hope they make some difference. If no, then I guess I will have to get the neurotrasmitter tests for $ and keep trying to solve this.

    Another thing: I’ve been smoking weed aroudn once or twice a week in the past 9 months. I asked Dr. Richards what he has to say about that and he said IT’S HORRIBLE. It alternates gene expression and should be avoided for people with neurotrasm. imbalances (me). So I guess I haven’t been contributing to my success much, however the funny thing is, I’ve had those 2 week intervals when things returned to normal during times when I smoked weed, and now that I stopped as of two weeks ago, no success at all. Go figure :S

    Bottomline: I’ve cut out the weed + shrooms and gona limit alcohol until this is over. I plan on abstaining from porn/sex for weeks, for prolactin and inflamation levels to drop, I plan on getting the 5-htp, GABA, and Arginine soon, plan on keeping a healthy lifestyle and having a consistant sleeping pattern and plan on thinking about my libido a lot LESS. Hopefully that’ll do it. If no, then my problem is more serious then I suspect and I’ll have to see if its the serotonin or dopamine or w/e else that is causing this.

    Tells your friends that do mdma to pre-load on 5-htp and take more of it the next day! My experience with this SE has really been something.. :S

    All the best..[/quote]

    Frenchiman,

    first of all, try your best to stop worrying so much about all this. this in itself is making everything worse; stress fucks u up in a lot ways, including erectile dysfunction, and your high cortisol levels show you’ve been more stressed lately, which is surely a culprit.

    just to give you a quick recap of my story, i got a reallly fucked up from a combination of smoking a ton of weed (i was selling it at the time), lack of sleep, a lot of stress, and needless to say, masturbation (about 2-8 times a day). i’d get high multiple times a day and then jack off. i dont know whats with you guys, but sex/masturbation faded is incredible and i have absolutely no trouble getting up. i dont have trouble getting up on e either when im with a cute girl. i also fucked around with coke for a while, which definitely made things a lot worse. that shit is a lottt of fun from time to time, but is very addicting short-term and can F*ck u up quick. i’d def watch out with that stuff. shrooms, on the other hand, are awesome. i dont attribute any of this to them and only have positive outcomes after doing them. doing them too frequently or having a bad trip can be a disaster though.

    back to you, i’m pretty confused what you think is so unusual about this “hard flaccid penis”. to me this merely sounds like erectile dysfunction, which is the inability to get a full erection, which i imagine would be a hard flaccid penis. anyways, there are many factors that work together to power an erection, and to my knowledge serotonin doesn’t play a huge role. i think serotonin is released during sex and helps delay orgasm, but i’m not so sure. tweek stays in your system for a few days, so if the pills u got from that random club dealer were laced and you were bashing for following days you were essential having sex on meth. i’m quite certain that it was something else in the pills you took the third time that messed u up since thats when you started having problems and thats when you were unsure what you took. this would lead me to believe that it wasnt the mdma that fucked u up, therefore serotonin isn’t necessarily your problem. i’m guessing that your erection problems have to do with dopamine or some combination of several neurotransmitters. if you can, try to get a blood test that measures all the main neurotransmitters (like dopamine, serotonin, gaba, and acytylcholine) and hormones.

    in the meantime, i’d take a more holistic approach instead of slamming back all these supplements. they can actually make things worse a lot of the time, so enless your really sure about what your taking i’d be careful. the body is naturally very good at repairing itself when simply live healthily. try to eat well (be sure to get your essential fatty acids, vitamins, and greens), exercise as much as possible (preferably every day in a light form, like brisk walking or swimming, any sport is good though), get at least 8 hours of good quality sleep per night, and reduce stress and other negative thoughts as much as possible. stay optimistic. the body is extremely complex, and simply taking 5-htp and gaba is probably not going to solve your problems. doing the things i just mentioned, however, will definitely get you on the best road to recovery, even if you don’t see results right away. remember, before your body gets fully better it has to regress a little while it recuperates. give yourself a month or 2 and i bet your erections will be coming back strong and you’ll be feeling great. best of luck

    #14014

    Tim

    ay i actually think your problem might be with dopamine. im pretty sure weed boosts dopamine and since you feel yourself being able to get hard easier and stuff when your high this might suggest you have a dopamine deficiency. everything starting for you after your 3rd roll which was probably twacky would almost support my theory since meth affects dopamine

    #14015

    Jorge

    Alex, really appreciate you trying to help.

    What’s unusual about the ‘hard flaccid’ is that it goes away and comes back without any particular pattern. Not a single doctor I know has never heard of the ‘hard flaccid’, others on other forums have said that not even 1 urologist has ever heard of the ‘hard flaccid’, so nobody really has answers, which is what throws me off.

    There are different forms of ED, most being due to over masturbation/sex and old age, and the hard flaccid being the most unusual as it seems. The amount of firmness/hardness can fluctuate even on a daily basis, which shows that it involves some hormones that fluctuate rapidly, like cortisol for example. So I knows roughly why the ‘hard flaccid’ is casued, but unfortunately don’t know detail about its roots.

    Perhaps you’re right and the problem does lie in dopamine. What steps would I have to take if hypotheticaly i know that dopamine is the problem?

    I eat very healthy, exercise consistantly, going to fix my sleeping patterns as of this week, and yea definitely gotta stop thinking about this. You’re right stress does F*ck me up, which is probably why things hadn’t improved much in the past 2 weeks. What more could I possibly do to increase dopamine? … I even eat foods with tyrosine like turkey and yogurt in case dopamien is the problem!

    It’s not unlikely that the pills were laced. I should probably take the neurotrasmitters test like you said. I’ll look into where it can be done locally.

    I do plan on taking a hostilic approac for about a month or more to see where it gets me, then decide where to go from there. I’m just really thrown off by the fact that before the ‘hard flaccid’ would go away progresively after not masturbating, and now it just stays longer. It’s probably because i’m stressing about this though. Before i came across these forums I really didn’t think much about this at all.

    Another question: if the problem really lies in something other then serotonin, you think this Dr. richards just claimed that the problem is serotonin imbalance due to mdma, to make me buy the 5-htp and other products? (serious question, could be fully true). He didn’t say the problem is specificaly serotonin, but he says my serotonin is likely low because of the mdma. I can’t fully trust him since he seels products. What do you think?

    How are you doing man? erections back to normal lately?

    #14016

    Russ

    sorry i’ve taken a long time to respond, ive been really busy lately.

    i think dr. richards is good, but i don’t think he understands your situation well enough to give you the diagnosis that your low in serotonin. it makes sense why he’d that your lower in serotonin because of the mdma in the ecstasy, but he’s not aware that your problems sparked up after your third roll, which most likely had meth or some other hard drug in it. i’m sure he’s trying to make you buy his products, but i think he has legitimate reasoning and is not just trying scam you. bottom line, i don’t think you should get the 5-htp because he doesn’t understand your situation fully. you want to make sure you have the right diagnosis before taking stuff like that or you can further create imbalances.

    i know i already said this, but just doing the basics well (eating, sleeping, exercising, having a healthy sex/masturbation frequency) is the safest and most effective way to go. the other thing which i kind of mentioned before, which is extremely vital, is RELAXING. i dont know if you anything about the autotomic nervous system, which is composed of the sympathetic and parasympathetic, but here’s the scoop: the sympathetic is like the accelerator. it fires when you are stressed, when you exercise, or do anything strenuous with your mind and/or body. drugs and sex/masturbation activate it, and much of the sexual exhaustion experienced by me, you, and others is caused by an overactive sympathetic nervous system. on the other hand, the parasympathetic is like the brake, and is responsible for rejuvenating the body and mind. basically, you recover when your in parasympathetic and burn yourself out in sympathetic. parasympathetic fires when you are sleeping or relaxed. deep breathing, yawning, and other stuff also activates it. here’s a great link i just found:

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    i can tell your sympathetic nervous system is overactive because of your high cortisol levels, which is impeding your recovery. utilize the methods mentioned in the article i gave the link to and it will help you out a lot. try to keep yourself as stress-free as possible and avoid negative thoughts. good luck

    i doing fine, i haven’t been having any erection problems lately, but i kind of have premature ejaculation which is very frustrating, except for when i’m drunk. i’d say more but i don’t have time

    keep me posted. i’m always happy to help where i can. i’m actually thinking of going into premed b/c of all this. how old are you by the way?

    #14017

    Ty

    I’m 21. Ya man I’m sure you’d do well in medicine. I’m in kinesiology myself, so I’ve studyied physiology and such, and know about the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems. Great link though, I’ll implement the yoga and breathing day to day.

    On the topic of overactive sympathetic nervous system, I started exercising a lot now that I got time on my hands. I do bodyweight training + some weights + cardio around 5 days a week. You think exercising too much could be counter-intuivite to progress?

    I stopped doing heavy weight training, and focusing more on endurance now, so it’s not that much of a toll on my body, but still would you think 5 days of endurance training a week is alright? (doesn’t seem to hurt progress thus far)

    Here are my news for the past week or so:

    I’ve abstained from masturbatin for 2 weeks today. Hard flaccid is almost entirely GONE. I’ve been eating raw eggs everyday for like the past week. Pretty much on day 8 or 9 of abstaining things returned to almost normal and have stayed that way. My sex drive is back, but still not at 100%, maybe like 75%.

    I’ve been eating healthy, exercising, got exams over with, so stopped stressing, and started going out more.

    I’ve been doing a lot of research on this and really got down to the bottom of things. What I discovered:

    Cortisol probably DOES have a huge impact on the hard-flaccid because as soon as exams were done, and I started thinking about this less -> mood lightened up -> was around the time when things returned to normal. Now that I remember, about two weeks after I had done mdma for the last time, the hard flaccid actually dissapeared for around 2 weeks. So this means my cortisol must have dropped dramatically, and serotonin + dopamine went up, while prolactin went down from abstaining, and adrenals went up. Makes perfect sense.

    I found a study that said that mdma DOES raise prolactin levels during the roll, which is part of the reason many people lose interest in sex while rolling. So in my case -> rolling twice in 1 week + lots of sex = high prolactin + infamatory prostaglandins, which = the hard flaccid the day after. This means I should have abstained for about a month right away, which is something I didn’t do until now, months later.

    I read up about the neurotrasmitters: serotonin, dopamine, GABA, and acetylcoline. I figured I won’t take the neurotrasmitter test for now and just go with the hostilic approach. IN CASE my acetylcoline is low -> that should be fixed with the choline from egg yolks + the healthy lifestyle I’m trying to live. IN CASE GABA is low, which I doubt, that should be taken care of through proper nutrition and normal sleeping patterns. IN CASE serotonin is low, I figured I’d save my money from 5-htp, and instead just everyday start eating turkey, chicken, yogurt, cheese, nuts, which contain L’trytophan. The amount of L’trytophan I’ll get from these foods will be no lower then the amount 5-htp will provide. (I doubt my serotonin is low because i don;t suffer from symptoms of depression or anything). IN CASE dopamine is low -> exercise, sleep, eating bananas, apples, eggs, and other foods that contain the precursor L’tyrosine. SO.. by taking these measures, I should ensure that EVERYTHING will be restored with nough time. Makes perfect sense. I just didn’t really know that the precursor for 5-htp can be found in food.

    On the note of Dr. Richards, yea I agree that he provides the right knowledge, but his products are far from neccesary (I’m talking about the 5-htp, GABA, and A-amino).

    Exercise, diet, rest, and abstinance, like you said, should take care of all things like thyroid, adrenals, testasterone, and everything else as well, IN THE CASE that something is off with them. If I had $500 right now, I’d gladly order the test, but I don’t, so I’m going to go with this approach.

    My sleeping pattern is still messed up (I go to sleep at different times), which is probably affecting serotonin and cortisol -> slowing down progress – > so I gotta fix that.

    Cortisol –> like I said now that my mind is clear, things are looking a lot better. So this is a big one.

    Prolactin –> anyone who suffers from the hard flaccid must have high prolactin. Ways to get rid of it –> abstain from masturbation for as long as needed until things are back to 100%. #2 I read a study that oral vitamin E + vitamin B6 help reduce prolactin dramatically. So I’ll probably get vitamin E. (Already taking a multi-vitamin).

    The hard flaccid is also caused by imflamatory prostaglandins, which are affected directly by the sympathetic system, like you said, so stess + imflamatory foods will slow down progress.

    On the topic of alcohol and weed, I asked Richards what he has to say about them, and he basically said AVOID. He said alcohol is imflamatory bla bla, and weed alternates dopamine gene expression and should not be taken by people with neurotrasmitter imbalances.

    Alcohol –> he may be right, but i drink once a week and it doesn;t seem to affect me negatively. I have normal libido while I’m tipsy and after. I’ll keep it to once a week.

    Weed –> I’ve been smoking it regardless. I don’t think Richards has enough knowledge about it and just trying to play it safe. Yea, it alternates dopamine and releases dopamine temporarily, but definitely doesn’t seem to affect me in a negative way. When I’m high, my libido is perfectly normal, actually feels like I get MORE blood flow when I get a boner, and the day after things are the same. Just to play it safe, I’ll limit it to once or twice a week.

    I was planning on doing shrooms in the summer also (never done them before). They play around with serotonin as well, so I don;t know if it;s a good idea, but I’ve never heard of negative effects on libido, so I’ll probably do it.

    That’s about it. CONCLUSION: I BELIEVE i AM FAIRLY HEALTHY AND MY NEUROTRASMITTERS ARE FAIRLY BALANCED. JUST TO ENSURE, i WILL EAT ALL FOODS THAT CONTAIN L’TRYTOPHAN, L’TYROSINE, CHOLINE, AND OTHER GOOD STUFF, INSTEAD OF TAKING SUPPLEMENTS. I TAKE A MULTI-VITAMIN EVERYDAY, AS WELL AS FISH OIL, AND CALCIUM+MAGNESIUM. I WILL EXERCISE CONSISTANTLY. I NEED TO REGULATE MY SLEEPING PATTERN, AS IT’S FUCKED RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO KEEP STRESS AT A LOW, KEEP A CLEAR MIND, SOCIALIZE, AND FOLLOW THE BREATHING + YOGA EXERCISES –> WILL DEFINITELY HELP. KEEP ABSTAINING FROM porn FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME. I THINK I’LL GO FOR A MONTH RIGHT NOW AND AFTER WE’LL SEE. I’LL TAKE A BLOOD TEST ONCE A WEEK TO MONITOR PROLACTIN DROPPING, CORTISOL (WHILE NOT VERY ACCURATE0 DROPPING), AND TESTASTERONE RAMAINING/RAISING. I ALSO NEED TO GET L’ARGININE AND VITAMIN E PERHAPS WHEN I HAVE MONEY.

    For anyone with the hard flaccid that’s what i recommend.

    As for you Alex, good to hear you’re doing good. Dr. Richards has many good articles on premature ejaculation. I basically have it also, unless I’m drunk as well. There’s a way to get past it though. Max posted a thread on it in the general page. Basically partly why PE is caused is becaused we trained our PC muscles to contract and overheat during sex/masturbation over the years. So what you do is the reverse-kegel technique. During sex/masturbating you never tense your pc muscles, constantly breath deeply, and when you feel you wanna bust, relax the pc muscles, like a fart is coming out lol, (Dr. Lin called in Anal Breathing). You relax the anus, breath deep, that way your pc muscles don’t overheat and contract. I’ve tried it IT WORKS. You gotta stay consistant with it and re-condition your body to this after years of doing it wrong. best to get a girlfriend and practice this constistantly until you get it. Without a doubt works though.

    How old are you btw?

    #14018

    Heath

    This is a very good and well put healing plan!

    #14019

    Irving

    Well done man, you’ve really done your research. I’m happy everything’s working out well for you. I agree the holistic approach is the best route, and the drug test definitely isn’t worth money (for you at least). I’m 18, a senior in high school, and just got accepted into University of Michigan, which I’m thrilled about. Where do you go to school?

    Your theories seem to be pretty on point; I’d respond more thoroughly but I don’t have time right now. I’ll finish up later.

    I’m basically on the same page as you with the drugs. I’ve been smoking weed pretty moderately lately, except for on tues. (4/20), and typically drink twice a week pretty heavily. I’m staying the F*ck away from coke, but when I’m drunk it’s kinda hard for me to say no, so it may happen from time to time. I’m not rolling till the summer, which will be with pure mdma. Shrooms are a whole other story; I’ll get into that later.

    Thanks for the tips on premature ejaculation. I’ll look into that for sure.

    Sorry for the short response, but I gotta run. I’ll get back to you fully as soon as I can. Congrats on your accomplishments

    #14020

    Orval

    So to finish up,

    I think any type of exercise is good but the lighter ones like walking or swimming are more nourishing. You can typically exercise as much as you want but you don’t want to exhaust yourself and take on more than your body can handle. I’d stop if your feeling really uncomfortable but I don’t think its something you have to worry about.

    Your theories seem to be pretty reasonable, but I don’t know about some of your assumptions. Just because your cortisol was down and you felt better doesn’t necessarily mean your dopamine, serotonin and adrenals all went up and your prolactin went down. I also doubt that your hard flaccid was solely caused by too much prolactin b/c of the mdma. as i already said, mdma probably wasn’t the chief culprit. It’s good that your covering for all your neurotransmitters instead of obsessing over one. It’s much better to give your body everything and let it achieve its equilibrium naturally. Bottom line, you know stress is bad for you so avoid it as much as possible and your body will do all the work as long as you give it all the essentials.

    I also heard that sleeping from 11:00 to 1:00 (or something close to that) is the most regenerative time to sleep, so if you’ve got schoolwork to do or something its better to get to sleep fairly early and set your alarm early.

    Don’t abstain too much either. It’s good to take a break, but you should then moderately masturbate, or better yet have sex. I don’t think abstinence is good long term. Your dick needs exercise also.

    Your on the right track… I’m sure you’ll start noticing huge results if you can keep it up. It may take a while but stick with it.

    The two things that have been bothering me lately are cold hands and minor impotence. My hands are almost always cold, even when its not cold at all. im pretty sure this is due to a combination of ongoing stress and excessive masturbation, which caused my body to be overly sympathetic, making me very prone to the fight or flight response. The fight or flight brings blood to vital muscles/organs liek the chest and thighs and away from hands and feet. Now my body is perpetually like that. I’m working on my parasympathetic but I still trying to find some other way to reverse what I’ve done.

    It’s not like I absolutely can’t get up, but it’s much harder than it used to be and it takes longer to become erect. I used to be instantly erect at the mere thought of something hot, in fact I would get them in inappropiate scenarios all the time. Maybe my body’s just recovering, but this is definitely quite bad for an 18 year old. I wish I knew what caused this precisely and I really hope it’s not permanent.

    oh and by the way, you have no idea what your missing out on with shrooms. they’re fuckin awesome, probably my favorite drug overall. i have noticed absolutely no repercussions, only gained wisdom and insight. i actually feel refreshed after most of the time. i’ve never laughed so hard (which definitely released a lot of stress) and had the craziest thoughts and epiphanies. at one point all this stuff that had been bothering me and seemed to have no solution was crystal clear and i knew exactly how i wanted to lead my life. your depth perception is unbelievable and plants and trees and such all look alive (have faces and other animalistic features). there are a bunch of phases. if you make do them, just make sure you get good ones, take a reasonable dosage (don’t do too much), are in a good environment with people you like, and have a positive attitude. you vibe off everything really hard.

    anyways, keep up the good work and let me know how things are going. good luck

    #14021

    Darron

    Hey man,

    I’m from Toronto. Taking Kine at York university.

    I’m too tired and hungover to go into detail on theories and such. I really really want to get down to the bottom of all this and know the root of the problems, but the best I can do is guess what causes what. And I don’t wanna spend any more mental energy guessing. So yea, I’m just gonna try to live a healthy lifestyle and do the things I said before, and hope for the best.

    Yea I definitely hope this is not permenant. Sure as F*ck not normal at our age. I can’t even believe such problems exist. Must be some cruel god we got..

    Pretty much up until today things were noticiably better. It wasn’t like things got better by the day, but after abstaining for a while, hard flaccid was gone most of the time, and sex drive was back somewhat. I would take that and live with that happily. Then last night I was HAMMERED. I’m talking drinkin bacardi 151 straight before a club. Met some borads, passed out outside. Blurry but good times. Wake up this morning, hard flaccid is pretty much back :S. It went away somewhat by now, so not like before, but still, this is riduculous. I just want my normal life back.

    I’ll get a blood test tomorrow and post up the results when I get em. I want to see how much prolactin dropped from before. Maybe I’ll even get a neurotrasmitter test just to feed my curiosity.

    About your cold hands: I had that before but not so much now. I think it’s just poor circulation. Exercising, living a healthy lifestyle, and diet should take care of that. Eat spices, herbs, black pepper, mustard, horse radish. These things help with circulation.

    Wow now you really got me stoked about shrooms. You basically described all the things that appeal to me. Getting depth perception especially. I gotta do them pretty soon, at this cool beach we got nearby. B-)

    Basically I realize that alcohol is not helping recovery, but F*ck.. it feels good to drink. I don’t wanna have to change my whole life around because of this. I’m just not gonna get hammered like that and generally cut down a bit, hope for the best..

    Cheers.

    #14022

    Chance

    whats the update , is your hard flaccid state shrunken too ???

    #14023

    Kent

    Ya man. Not much new to brag about..

    Basically after abstaining a week after ejaculation all my symptoms go away. If I jerk off, I fall right back to square 1.. which is shrunken hard flaccd and low sex drive. That’s my deal..

    Right now I’m taking a multi-vitamin, vit C, sometimes fish oil, and 5-htp everyday. They’re probably helping but not a a significantly. Recently I decided to never ever ejaculate from masturbating for like the rest of my life but already done so twice. Been abstaining for like a week now, and promise on my mothr’s life, that I’ll never bust to porn again. Time to move on with my life and recover.

    I’m ordering all sorts of lab tests of hormones and neurotrasmitters this week and gonna be working with hardasnails. I’ll post up the test numbers when I get em.

    #14024

    Courtney

    when u say back to normal you get your original flaccid state back plus original erection strength. I think the whole two months I had this. that was my problem I would abstain then I see improvements and back to porn and masturbation at a low frequency then back to shrink mode. I swore off porn and dont plan on masturbating to it again just have sex with a woman when possible. also how is your sensitivity when u return to normal flaccid and erection ???

    I just started Dr. Richards protocol minus 5 htp and gaba for the time being

    #14025

    Duane

    It doesn’t always happen after a fixed number of days that everything comes back to normal. Sometimes it takes 4 days of abstaining for things to return to normal. Sometmes it takes up to two weeks. But yea, by normal I mean I get my original flaccd state and erection strength back. Sometimes it’s not 100% of what is used to be, but like 90%, but I’ll stll take it gladly. Other times things return to 100%. Again, how long it takes, varies a lot from time to time, and there are probably numerous factors that influence recovery time such as what I eat, sleeping pattern, alcohol… but I got no way of knowing which factors contribute the most. Sometimes I been drinking 3 times a week and things returned t normal wthin that week. Other times I ben keeping everything healthy and still it took longer fr things to return to normal :S.

    Sensitivity is 100% what it used to be when I return to normal state.

    How did your problem start?? What are your symptoms? Just like mine? Do you return to normal with abstaining?

    #14026

    Filiberto

    I noticed my problem at end of may of this year couldnt get it up with my new g/f. but it did work thru oral and my erection was like you said only 80% soon as the manual stimulation stopped the erection would drop and she went thru like 3 or 4 condoms and had hard time putting it on. so I got it up with the 80% and did a few strokes for about 4 5 mins and it was weird cuz it was like I wasnt really feeling it how I should and soon as I tried to switch positions it went down again. we went to sex shop and got porn and yohimbe pills and I tried them did not work , the porn wasnt working either I was thinking like something was wrong but we just laughed it off and cuddled together. next morning I noticed I didnt have morning erection either and I thought it was odd taht my flaccid state was smaller than before. I was thinking it was damage from condoms or when she gave me oral she teethed me once or twice but it wasnt severe pain

    thinking about the two months I found out bout SE I dont think I fully went more than a few days without porn or masturbation. and the times I did go without masterbation I was looking at porn on ocassion. when I did start noticing improvements I would do the start and stop method/ and sometimes I would finish because it was feeling to good to not stop to porn and was considering it no foul since I didnt ejaculate then back to shrink mode. but the last time I did ejaculate it was thick and white like it should be and the sensation felt good.

    now I have not looked at porn or masturbated in like 6 days and I notice when I look at women at work and focus I get a soft semi erect penis that points to the ground , it seems the shrunken flaccid state always has my penis pointing down. before my original flaccid would be in a 2 or 3 o clock position when I would get erection at work or etc. is your shrunken flaccid state rubbery and weak when it hang a lil lower before it returns.

    also how is your female stimulation reaction havent been feeling or touching on women lately to test this or making out to see if I can get excited.

    #14027

    Josh

    Guys – I’ve got the same issue from having intense dick numbing sex with my girlfriend. How are you guys getting along…any progress?

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