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  • #15646

    Jerold

    I started HCG mono today at 150 IU ED plus .15 ml of liquidex.

    So that 1050Iu weekly plus 1.05 ml liquidex weekly.

    Will retest in some 3 weeks or so to see what Total T, E2, SHBG are.

    Ill let you guys know how it goes.

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    #15647

    Hugo

    Good Luck

    #15648

    Coleman

    ya man good luck.. this is where it starts getting exciting.. I cant wait to start taking my supps

    #15649

    Johnnie

    thanks to both of you . Same I hope this can get me to 800 plus . Iv read basically every monoterapy thread on the web I could find and it seem like alot of guys get to realy good levels with similar protocols. It seems like for some some HCG mono is better then TRT and some hate it. will see what happens.

    Would be great if I could make it happen would one less things to worry about. Woud just gotta fix thyroid and adrenals.

    #15650

    Aron

    do you think using HCG will fix your testosterone levels permanently or its a temporarily fix

    #15651

    Dannie

    good luck with it man

    before i started testosterone enanthat i did hcg only for a while but unfortunately for me it didn’t deliver results as trt did

    whether or not this is due to too low t levels i don’t know or too high estrogen, i only know i feel way better on a t shot

    i do like it on weekends though hcg to keep nuts firm and healthy

    only drawback of hcg might be that it will lower cortisol a bit but not sure how that works out in your case js

    #15652

    Nicholas

    temporary fix, i.e. you have to take this shit for life

    drawback i read in some users could be that they get adjusted to hcg and it doesn’t deliver same T levels over prolonged periods of time

    hcg is suppressive and is not like clomid, which restarts the htpa

    so if you quit hcg your t levels will become low again and you will most likely need some clomid, nolva or triptorelin to start htpa back up again

    #15653

    Rosendo

    temporary fix, i.e. you have to take this shit for life

    drawback i read in some users could be that they get adjusted to hcg and it doesn’t deliver same T levels over prolonged periods of time

    hcg is suppressive and is not like clomid, which restarts the htpa

    so if you quit hcg your t levels will become low again and you will most likely need some clomid, nolva or triptorelin to start htpa back up again

    Werd. My thinking is this. See where this HCG gets me. Iv seen guys on other forums such as leanguy and the nxtgrt1 get into 800-1100 on doses as low as 100 IU ED or 250 IU EOD.

    We all had similar baseline labs. Mine were even a lil better even. So im praying this gets me where I need to be. I actually had really good wood all night and morning today so maybe a good sign.

    If it only gets me to like 700 or so then I have an apointment with a uro who previously gave me androgel and ill reduce the HCG to like 100 IU ED and add the androgel. God willing I absorb it.

    Afte that Ill work on adrenals and thyroid. Im know im doin it in reverse order but I wanna see if high T keeps my SHBG low when I add T3.

    #15654

    Aldo

    I FUCKING DID IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!

    Testosterone, Serum =1065 range =248-836 !!!!!!!!

    E2 Sensitive = 17 Range= 7.6-42.6

    SHBG= 28.4 Range 14.5-48.4

    Cortisol AM= 26.3 range 6.4-19.4

    Im so fucking pumped motherfuckers. this is better then I thought possible.

    Tommorow im running the following blood work to see how this has affected my thyroid .

    1) Free T3

    2) Free T4

    3) Total T3

    4) Total T4

    5) RT3

    6) AM Cortisol

    7) 4x saliva Cortisol

    DHEA S

    9) Pregnenolone

    10) Insulin serum and Free

    If you guys are wondering what this has done for my symtoms . So far

    1) Rock hard erections thoughout the night and always in the morning

    2) Spontaneus erections few times a day

    3) Very easy to get aroused

    4) No symptoms of low cortisol such as dizziness when standing afternoon naps etc etc.

    I still have low temps upon waking and durin the day. So i have to reasses my thyroid function to see wtf is good now. then on to my next hormonal project. Im so fucking happy you guys dont even understand.

    BTW this is on 250 IU everyday plus .10 liquidex everyday

    #15655

    Enoch

    That’s awesome js wow your t has increased by so much.

    #15656

    Ryan

    congrats JS. happy for you!

    did you take any type of aromotase inhibitor with the HCG? or any other supplements?

    #15657

    Loyd

    yup I use .10 liquidex a day so .7 a week about. Shit is perfect dose. Dont got chase e2 at all.

    You no what the fucking crazy shit is……that T number is before my shot. So after my shot shit must be like 1300 1400….that shit is fucking bananas.

    I cant wait to start workin out agan. OMG IM GONA FUCKING BEASTTT

    #15658

    Gary

    yup I use .10 liquidex a day so .7 a week about. Shit is perfect dose. Dont got chase e2 at all.

    You no what the fucking crazy shit is……that T number is before my shot. So after my shot shit must be like 1300 1400….that shit is fucking bananas.

    I cant wait to start workin out agan. OMG IM GONA FUCKING BEASTTT

    and your erections have improved right?

    does this imply that SE is majorly tied to Testosterone levels? or is it one of the factors?

    #15659

    Reggie

    yup I use .10 liquidex a day so .7 a week about. Shit is perfect dose. Dont got chase e2 at all.

    You no what the fucking crazy shit is……that T number is before my shot. So after my shot shit must be like 1300 1400….that shit is fucking bananas.

    I cant wait to start workin out agan. OMG IM GONA FUCKING BEASTTT

    and your erections have improved right?

    does this imply that SE is majorly tied to Testosterone levels? or is it one of the factors?

    my erections have never been this strong…..it literally feels like there is a metal rod in my cock.

    there is no such thing as SE. Theres only hormones and neurotransmitters. Its your job to figure out which of your hormones are fucked up and which of your neuros are fucked up. In my patericular case it was mediocore or low nornal T , shaky adrenals and def fucked up thyroid along with neuros at bottom ranges. So far it it seems like Iv killed two birds with one stone ( T and Cortisol ) with the HCG. I still have thyroid and neuros ahead of me. Just by fixing those two things I have massive improvement. I cant even imagine what it will be like having optimal neuros and thyroid. Shit might be to much lol.

    If you have a porn addiction as many of us do/did then just deal with it like a man. Put up blockers , get a life, get a hobby whatever you need to do but stop makin such a big deal out of it like its the be all and the end all. I havnt wathced porn in months once I put up the blockers. I still crave to sometimes Ill be honest but thats cuse Ihavnt fucked in 10 months and its only natural . I still jerk off once or twice a week cuse that shit really dosnt matter that much.

    #15660

    Rory

    congrats J’s consider yourself very lucky your probly one of the very few with SE that is getting full recovery , you should also test for free testosterone and DHT , free T is more important than TT in my book.

    #15661

    Hector

    and also since your testicular function is very powerful now you might be able to take less thyroid meds or maybe none at all , since when your testicles work good it realeases more TSH.

    #15663

    Hiram

    Werd im actually doing brolic blood work tommorow that includes both those.

    My DHT is right there though its a 48 on a scale of 30-85 so on the low side. I mean I dont care cuse it hasnt affected me but thats weird I guess.

    I agree Free T is def more important but with SHBG of 28 and T of 1065 I sould be solid in that department.

    thanks for thumbs up. Im fuckin psyched man. still gotta fix my thyroid and my nuerotransmitters

    #15664

    Jerrold

    I hope J’s improvements is an eye opener for everyone that to heal you need TO GO SEE A DOCTOR , absintence, supplements all BS J’s case just prooves it , herbs, supplements,ect might be of benefit once you get your thyroid,adrenals, and testosterone fixed….

    #15665

    Irvin

    ya werd to that x1000. Except im doing this all on my own. No doctors lol. But the point is you need to fix your hormones. How you do it is up to you. Most likely your gona need a doctor to tune you up.

    #15666

    Kermit

    Werd im actually doing brolic blood work tommorow that includes both those.

    My DHT is right there though its a 48 on a scale of 30-85 so on the low side. I mean I dont care cuse it hasnt affected me but thats weird I guess.

    I agree Free T is def more important but with SHBG of 28 and T of 1065 I sould be solid in that department.

    thanks for thumbs up. Im fuckin psyched man. still gotta fix my thyroid and my nuerotransmitters

    I cant beleive the improvements your seeing using with HCG mono thats insane , usually for SE leydig cells take a huge hit and get fucked up , but your testicles just bounced right back fucking insane man , i could just imagine once you get your thyroid and neuro’s fixed whats going to happen man looks like you will be 100% recovery in no time

    #15668

    Jody

    thats true definetly. I cant believe how good HCG worked. Today has been one of the happiest days in the past year for me. I cant stop being happy lol.

    But im running a shit load of tests tommorow to see how this affects thyroid. I might not have to do a T3 only protocol and may get away with T4/T3 combos which would be nice.

    I cant believe how much my cortisol shot up. Shit is bananas fucking bananas.

    #15669

    Tim

    you know whats even more bananas lol? I have a varicocele in my nutsack. and theres all this literature everywere sayin they screw up testosterone levels.

    First leanguy on musclechat who has one and now me and we both have super response to HCG.

    I cant believe I was so stressed about it at one point.

    #15670

    Emory

    Wait this is very intresting youve had low cortisol right? and since boosting your testicular function your telling me your cortisol is shooting up? thats fucking crazy

    #15671

    Marlon

    Variocele affects everyone differently for some people it wont hurt there testosterone.

    #15672

    Tracey

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    #15673

    Maximo

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    #15674

    Alton

    awesome stuff man! hopefully things will stick

    crazy that your adrenals are working better

    dht perhaps some t cream on your nuts daily? along with hcg?

    what’s the deal with self treatment and seeing dr m? or are you doing this under his supervision?

    get some more bloodtests indeed, preg and prog.. if hcg is boosting preg and prog then you might not need adrenal support, only thyroid hormone

    perhaps you only need iodine to make thyroid start functioning better get that tested as well

    awesome, a success story soon about you picking up and boning some chicks would be nice

    #15675

    Francis

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    na man. Hell no actually. I dont understand peoples obsessions with restarts , no offense speaking more in general right there then you directly.

    I want my hormonal levels to be as strong as possible. My body has let me down already at the age of fucking 18-20. Even if a restart was succesful chances are the moment there is some stress in my life or something happens my levels crash again. F*ck that man im commited to HRT for life. I think im gona go into a medical profesion as a matter of fact so I can eventually jusst be in control myself.

    I also think the key to healing SE is having all your hormones as stable as possible, give your body a chance to heal the damage and get out of this mess.

    Thanks for the input though

    #15676

    Chet

    thanks dude lol. Im doing this on my own. Ordered all my meds online. F*ck it I know what im after you know I dont need to pay someone 300 dollars to jerk me around . Dr. M is an awesome dude though I just am not a millionare and have no fucking patience.

    Im doing a shitload of tests in like 30 minutes actually. Sould have them in a few weeks. will post ofcourse. My next step is most likely thyroid which has been fucked up in the past. I might not even need pregnenolone anymore which is fuckin crazy. I just bought 15 LIFE FLO pregs!!1 Godamit lol.

    F*ck iodone. F*ck supplements. If I need thyroid hormone then thats what im doing.

    DUde the moment im tuned up for all my hormones and neurotransmitters (might still take a lil bit) Im fucking bitches. Ill prob F*ck some escorts to start and kinda get the rust out but its been my plan all along.

    #15677

    Roger

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    na man. Hell no actually. I dont understand peoples obsessions with restarts , no offense speaking more in general right there then you directly.

    I want my hormonal levels to be as strong as possible. My body has let me down already at the age of fucking 18-20. Even if a restart was succesful chances are the moment there is some stress in my life or something happens my levels crash again. F*ck that man im commited to HRT for life. I think im gona go into a medical profesion as a matter of fact so I can eventually jusst be in control myself.

    I also think the key to healing SE is having all your hormones as stable as possible, give your body a chance to heal the damage and get out of this mess.

    Thanks for the input though

    Actually ya what you said makes alot of sense on a restart the best your going to get is T levels sticking around 600-700 some people would take the 600-700 restart so they wont be on HRT for life but im with you on that i have no problems being on HRT as long as i can get the most hormone output my body could offer.

    #15678

    Jermaine

    thanks dude lol. Im doing this on my own. Ordered all my meds online. F*ck it I know what im after you know I dont need to pay someone 300 dollars to jerk me around . Dr. M is an awesome dude though I just am not a millionare and have no fucking patience.

    Im doing a shitload of tests in like 30 minutes actually. Sould have them in a few weeks. will post ofcourse. My next step is most likely thyroid which has been fucked up in the past. I might not even need pregnenolone anymore which is fuckin crazy. I just bought 15 LIFE FLO pregs!!1 Godamit lol.

    F*ck iodone. F*ck supplements. If I need thyroid hormone then thats what im doing.

    DUde the moment im tuned up for all my hormones and neurotransmitters (might still take a lil bit) Im fucking bitches. Ill prob F*ck some escorts to start and kinda get the rust out but its been my plan all along.

    lol that’s the spirit! we should have like a PUA log on here

    send the preg over dude

    valuepharmaceuticals ftw on 500 tabs erfa thyroid, cheap as F*ck

    again what is your protocol on hcg? liquidex daily sounds good to keep everything stable

    how are you gonna take this crap along on a holiday?

    i understand your reasoning.. i am 500 natural T levels and probably can have some good wood on dim/tongkat but test e is way better it’s a whole other world

    i understand your situation about supps, but there are some supps which work pretty good for me (natural sources raw thyroid for example), which doesn’t have the potential for crashing if you run out of thyroid.. that said if one tab of this stuff gives me same results as 2-3 grains thyroid then i would opt for the supp

    in the end all that matters is what works!

    still on the neuro protocol or just hcg/liquidex for the time being?

    still on the preg btw while doing hcg? may that be the reason your am cortisol is so high, or only due to hcg?

    #15679

    Darrell

    Hey does tongkali ali still work while your on Test e? also i was going to ask if you ever tried tribulus or shit like that?

    #15680

    Rickey

    The nice thing is that you managed to have a low SHBG, E2

    have couple of questions:

    1- will you continue your HCG inject 2X, or youll lower the dose, drop it?

    2- have you dropped Mariano protcol, and started the HCG with only thyro meds?

    3- Have you noticed any difference in the testicles movment and shape before the HCG, and after the HCG ( are they contractingmoving alot after the HCG)

    Congrats, glad that you are happy

    #15681

    Steve

    thanks dude lol. Im doing this on my own. Ordered all my meds online. F*ck it I know what im after you know I dont need to pay someone 300 dollars to jerk me around . Dr. M is an awesome dude though I just am not a millionare and have no fucking patience.

    Im doing a shitload of tests in like 30 minutes actually. Sould have them in a few weeks. will post ofcourse. My next step is most likely thyroid which has been fucked up in the past. I might not even need pregnenolone anymore which is fuckin crazy. I just bought 15 LIFE FLO pregs!!1 Godamit lol.

    F*ck iodone. F*ck supplements. If I need thyroid hormone then thats what im doing.

    DUde the moment im tuned up for all my hormones and neurotransmitters (might still take a lil bit) Im fucking bitches. Ill prob F*ck some escorts to start and kinda get the rust out but its been my plan all along.

    lol that’s the spirit! we should have like a PUA log on here

    send the preg over dude

    valuepharmaceuticals ftw on 500 tabs erfa thyroid, cheap as F*ck

    again what is your protocol on hcg? liquidex daily sounds good to keep everything stable

    how are you gonna take this crap along on a holiday?

    i understand your reasoning.. i am 500 natural T levels and probably can have some good wood on dim/tongkat but test e is way better it’s a whole other world

    i understand your situation about supps, but there are some supps which work pretty good for me (natural sources raw thyroid for example), which doesn’t have the potential for crashing if you run out of thyroid.. that said if one tab of this stuff gives me same results as 2-3 grains thyroid then i would opt for the supp

    in the end all that matters is what works!

    still on the neuro protocol or just hcg/liquidex for the time being?

    still on the preg btw while doing hcg? may that be the reason your am cortisol is so high, or only due to hcg?

    haha im down . I really wanna F*ck a fat chick at some point. I have no idea why I just think it would be the funniest experience to just slam a chunky bitch.

    I actually already have a shitload of thyroid meds on hand. mostly cytomel and some left over levothyroxine. Thanks for the hint though based on the labwork I just did I may be able to do efra or armour so may have to reorder.

    My protocol is 250 IU ED and .10 ml of liquidex ED. Shit awesome lol.

    I have no idea about holidays. Shit kinda sucks I guess but its the price we gotta pay. But I have this plan brewing about how if I can optimize all my shit im just gona drive to Shawn and Dr. O and be like yo this is what im doing can you assholes write my prescriptions. Might solve that problem.

    Dude im the same as you. My natural levels were liek 450-550. But so fucking what.Ya sure I could get erections but who cares. Its defiently not the same as having T literally double that. No comparison my dick is a rock every morning. I can make it all the way to the bathroom to piss with an erection. That hasnt happend since hs. But also I agree that you really dont need super high T to get wood. I 100 percent agree, but I want high T for all the other reasons, such as weight lifting and general health. Once I fix my hormones I plan on gettin back in the gym. Its been almost a fucking year man, Iused to be so strong and i miss it so much. But im also not tryin to bust my ass in the gym 5 days a week with testosterone levles of a 60 year old man. Shit is a huge disadvantage.

    I sorta gave the wrong impresion with supps. Im not against them, as a matter of fact to fix my neuros I plan on ussing all supps basically. But when It comes to hormones my personal experience has been you just need to hit it with more powerful stuff. But your right what works is what matters.

    Na man i havnt been on the aminos for months. I only did a few week stinT with them back in january. I had to stop for all sorts of reasons that i dont feel like explainin but it was still a great expereince. It showed me that 100 percent part of the answer is amino acid therapy. But I think its much more important to take care of the heavy duty stuff liek test, e2, thyroid, adrenals etc first and then see where shit falls you know. THe amino acids can be looked upon as fine tunin in the end.

    Dude the only thing im on is HCG and liquidex. No preg ,thyroid nothing.

    Though i did do a theraputic trial with preg back in febuary and it increases my cortisol for sure. had insomnia for a few nights.

    O wow actually thats a lie I take vitamin D, C, A, fishoil, Iron and b complex but……cmon that shit is baby stuff.

    O another thing I might add that I truly believe makes a huge difference. I eat a really low carb , low glycemic high fat and protein diet high cholestorol diet. I have a feelin that shit helps a lil.

    #15682

    Orval

    1) Im not sure what you mean? I do 250 IU everyday not twice a week. and I do liquidex .10 ml every day as well . that equals 1750 IU of HCG a week and .70 ml of liquidex a week as well. Hope that aswers your question

    2) My last phone consult with mariano was febuary 17. He made some protocol for me but I thought it was gona be a waste of time and money. So i was like F*ck it . i dont think im gona work with him anymore, its just to expensive. Though he really is a great doctor I just cant afford it really and no offense but hes takin his sweet time. I made my own decision and turned out to be great . Also im not on any thyroid meds andhavnt been for some time. All I take is HCG and liquidex with some basic vitamins for general health.

    3) My testicles were never small or atrophied to begin with. But I defiently noticed that the HCG made my balls really firm and hard. Actually bugged me out the first couple days. Couldnt stop touching them lol. But my loads are ridicolous on HCG if i abstain for a few days.

    #15684

    Randal

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    na man. Hell no actually. I dont understand peoples obsessions with restarts , no offense speaking more in general right there then you directly.

    I want my hormonal levels to be as strong as possible. My body has let me down already at the age of fucking 18-20. Even if a restart was succesful chances are the moment there is some stress in my life or something happens my levels crash again. F*ck that man im commited to HRT for life. I think im gona go into a medical profesion as a matter of fact so I can eventually jusst be in control myself.

    I also think the key to healing SE is having all your hormones as stable as possible, give your body a chance to heal the damage and get out of this mess.

    Thanks for the input though

    Actually ya what you said makes alot of sense on a restart the best your going to get is T levels sticking around 600-700 some people would take the 600-700 restart so they wont be on HRT for life but im with you on that i have no problems being on HRT as long as i can get the most hormone output my body could offer.

    exactly man. F*ck that I deserve the same quality of life as everyone else. I know what its like to function at great hormone levels. In high school and grammer school I was above and beyond every one in my age group in all sorts of shit. never had energy problems sexual problems whatever. I dont look at HRT as a problem at all. Some people iv spoken to have been like your 20 years old and are gona be condemned to hRT for the rest of your life?

    condemned? get the F*ck outa here man I look at it like im getting my life back. Injecting HCG takes literally 5 seconds. I kinda enjoy it actually lol. dont see what the big deal is if I can get my life back.

    If one day HCG stops working then I will have absoltly no problem going on TRT. Not a big deal in my eyes got over that months ago. Some people really are just afraid, and I think there fear is a result of not understanding and lack of knowledge. F*ck it it you wanna live your life like that go ahead but thats not me.

    #15685

    Maynard

    My bad..

    I mean like now you have reached to some point of achievement with the HCG, are you willing to continue with the same dose?

    or youll drop it down for a while

    and see how your body response with out HCG

    #15686

    James

    My bad..

    I mean like now you have reached to some point of achievement with the HCG, are you willing to continue with the same dose?

    or youll drop it down for a while

    and see how your body response with out HCG

    No. Im gona continue everything the same. Theres a chance that when I optimize my remainin hormones I may need less or more will see.

    But why would I go off HCG? using HCG is not like clomid, it shuts down your natural LH production so when you come of my test would be in the 100-200s for a while. no thanks lol.

    #15687

    Jonathan

    yo j’s isnt 250iu ED a little to much though longterm?

    #15688

    Art

    possibly……Iv seen Dr. Chrisler saying as long as its 500 IU and below daily….but I mean iv studied every single monotherapy thread I could find and usually the doses where something along these lines.

    I gotta reavualate everything once I figure some shit out but for now im gona keep it as is.

    #15690

    Alejandro

    thats true definetly. I cant believe how good HCG worked. Today has been one of the happiest days in the past year for me. I cant stop being happy lol.

    But im running a shit load of tests tommorow to see how this affects thyroid. I might not have to do a T3 only protocol and may get away with T4/T3 combos which would be nice.

    I cant believe how much my cortisol shot up. Shit is bananas fucking bananas.

    #15691

    Otha

    you know whats even more bananas lol? I have a varicocele in my nutsack. and theres all this literature everywere sayin they screw up testosterone levels.

    First leanguy on musclechat who has one and now me and we both have super response to HCG.

    I cant believe I was so stressed about it at one point.

    #15692

    Rudolph

    Wait this is very intresting youve had low cortisol right? and since boosting your testicular function your telling me your cortisol is shooting up? thats fucking crazy

    #15693

    Everette

    Variocele affects everyone differently for some people it wont hurt there testosterone.

    #15694

    Rick

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    #15696

    Lane

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    #15697

    Frederick

    awesome stuff man! hopefully things will stick

    crazy that your adrenals are working better

    dht perhaps some t cream on your nuts daily? along with hcg?

    what’s the deal with self treatment and seeing dr m? or are you doing this under his supervision?

    get some more bloodtests indeed, preg and prog.. if hcg is boosting preg and prog then you might not need adrenal support, only thyroid hormone

    perhaps you only need iodine to make thyroid start functioning better get that tested as well

    awesome, a success story soon about you picking up and boning some chicks would be nice

    #15698

    Dorian

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    na man. Hell no actually. I dont understand peoples obsessions with restarts , no offense speaking more in general right there then you directly.

    I want my hormonal levels to be as strong as possible. My body has let me down already at the age of fucking 18-20. Even if a restart was succesful chances are the moment there is some stress in my life or something happens my levels crash again. F*ck that man im commited to HRT for life. I think im gona go into a medical profesion as a matter of fact so I can eventually jusst be in control myself.

    I also think the key to healing SE is having all your hormones as stable as possible, give your body a chance to heal the damage and get out of this mess.

    Thanks for the input though

    #15699

    Ivan

    thanks dude lol. Im doing this on my own. Ordered all my meds online. F*ck it I know what im after you know I dont need to pay someone 300 dollars to jerk me around . Dr. M is an awesome dude though I just am not a millionare and have no fucking patience.

    Im doing a shitload of tests in like 30 minutes actually. Sould have them in a few weeks. will post ofcourse. My next step is most likely thyroid which has been fucked up in the past. I might not even need pregnenolone anymore which is fuckin crazy. I just bought 15 LIFE FLO pregs!!1 Godamit lol.

    F*ck iodone. F*ck supplements. If I need thyroid hormone then thats what im doing.

    DUde the moment im tuned up for all my hormones and neurotransmitters (might still take a lil bit) Im fucking bitches. Ill prob F*ck some escorts to start and kinda get the rust out but its been my plan all along.

    #15700

    Wilbert

    HAHAHA I Know dude shit is crazy. Everywhere you read about how cortisol and testosterone are antagonistic . even mariano was like testosterone blunts the ACTH signal and lowers adrenal output. But for me complete opposite happend lmao.

    Its possible that the HCG is boostin my pregnenolone alot. i think that makes the most sense out of all this. I also hhave really high cholesterol levels cuse of my fucked up thyroid so I have alot of raw material for the downstream hormones.

    Yes its probly raising pregenenlone that makes the most sense , since now you know your testicles are strong as F*ck and HCG mono is raising testosteorne like crazy, maybe you should try a restart?

    na man. Hell no actually. I dont understand peoples obsessions with restarts , no offense speaking more in general right there then you directly.

    I want my hormonal levels to be as strong as possible. My body has let me down already at the age of fucking 18-20. Even if a restart was succesful chances are the moment there is some stress in my life or something happens my levels crash again. F*ck that man im commited to HRT for life. I think im gona go into a medical profesion as a matter of fact so I can eventually jusst be in control myself.

    I also think the key to healing SE is having all your hormones as stable as possible, give your body a chance to heal the damage and get out of this mess.

    Thanks for the input though

    Actually ya what you said makes alot of sense on a restart the best your going to get is T levels sticking around 600-700 some people would take the 600-700 restart so they wont be on HRT for life but im with you on that i have no problems being on HRT as long as i can get the most hormone output my body could offer.

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