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  • #4160

    Travis

    yo i dono how much of this is placebo and shit but its been like 3 weeks since i added tyrosine and iv been euphoric as F*ck lately. Just mad not depressed and happy. I love it its the closest iv felt to the old me in forever.

    just wanted to let you guys know.

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    #4162

    Stefan

    Are you high?

    #4166

    Curtis

    haha na i havnt smoked in months.

    I have no idea but no joke i think adding the tyrosine has really made a dramatic improvment. I mean i honeslty have been a diffrent person the last couple weeks.

    dont get me wrong i still get down sometimes and shit but like i just took the tyrosine dose an hour ago.

    so im assuimin its really kickin in now and like i feel mad happy and full of energy. I keep laughin at stupid shit. I feel motivated to go out again tonight with my freinds and be social as F*ck.

    just kinda euphoric.

    Also like i was around my EX last night. Ill be honest iv made my peace with her i guess but i no ill always hate that dumb bitch ( well until i heal my problems and F*ck the living shit out of her again …..thats a long term goal though getting ahead of myself)

    and the first couple times i saw her since we broke up i was so quiet and angry looking and depressed. People kept being like dude you cant let see that. And i hoenstly tried but i coudnt help it.

    fast forward like 3 to 4 weeks of amino acid dosing with tyrosine included this time. Was around her all of last night. Could have gave a F*ck less . was happy as F*ck, jokin around with all our mutual friends. was very social and just energetic.

    also i no part of this is that like ya im over her but still like i just feel different mentally to.

    also im not healed or anyhting like that.

    i cant wait to get my results. i would totally understand if you guys were this is retarted.

    o wow i almost forgot……iv been fuckin the head honco on a like twice a week basis and no joke my PE is liek 70-80 percent better. Its still not what is used to be but like im sure i could perform pretty well if i had a girl rnight now. Today i honestly had trouble gettin my nut off with the head honcho. Had to really stroke away at that shit.

    #4169

    Ryan
    #4170

    Jerold

    i also occasionaly post on social anxiety forums

    check out this kids thread

    http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f11/l-tyrosine-and-5-htp-55286/index2.html

    #4171

    Josiah

    also sublingual 5 htp works amazing. I feel it in minutes and i hate 5htp. never felt much from it before

    recomend this product

    http://www.lifeproducts.com/5-HTP-75mg-p/2001542.htm

    its what i use very convenient though iv also just taken a capsule and poured it under my tongue

    #4173

    Haywood

    as mentioned yesterday your getting excessive dopamine which is giving you this sensation. One needs to be careful because this can lead into schizophrenic tendency.

    #4175

    Rick

    na im good man i dont think its excesive i just feel better.

    Im gona wait for a retest before I adjust any doses and what not.

    #4177

    Keneth

    http://www.kci.org/meth_info/lori/Dopamine_Methamphetamines_and_You.htm

    Iv been reading about dopamine receptor desensitization. This article explain part of the process if you guys are interested. I think thats the main benefit of abstaining or at least reducing ejaculation signficantly that it helps resenstize your dopamine receptors and makes you more receptive to real vagina.

    #4179

    Norbert
    #4180

    Dave

    http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-492759.html

    this is a forum i check out everyonce in a while. Theres alot of smart people who know there shit about brains chemicals and imbalances. most the people have experimented with all sorts of substances.

    anyway its a thread explainin how tyrsoine will indeed raise the levels of all your dopamine, NE etc but will also desenstize your dopamine receptors to a certain degree.

    it will take a a week or two of discntinuation to bring the receptor sensitivty back aparently.

    #4181

    Gustavo
    #4183

    Gustavo

    theres a kid rocknroll 714 who posts on all the social anxiety forums who really knows his shit. iv learned alot from him.

    hes kinda nuts though dude mixes crazy drugs together and experiments on himself.

    #4184

    Gabriel
    #4185

    Jayson

    wait, but if most drugs that raise dopamine also raise NE, isn’t that counterproductive for lowering Prolactin>?

    #4187

    Irvin

    do you know what happens to those who take tyrosine and have elevated norepinephrine levels?

    I’ll know my aminos in like 2 weeks. I’m pretty sure my norepinephrine is high. Dopamine could either be normal or low. Could be 50/50.

    So lets say my dopamine is low and NE is high. If I take tyrosine would I expect things to balance out.. or could NE go even higher?

    And lets say my dopamine is normal and NE is high. If I take tyrosine would NE drop or raise?

    Just hoping you say something like that in the forums or know how it works. I’m really curious.

    From one side I know tyrosine will block prolactin, so should help me out.. from another side I don’t want it to raise NE even more and therefore even more PGE2.

    #4189

    Maxwell

    i didnt no NE raised prolactin. I actually thought that it sometimes worked with dopamine in lowering it. Im not sure though I dont think theres much literature on it.

    #4191

    Brooks

    That’s just something that frenchi has kept saying..

    Frenchi are you positive NE could be causing our high prolactin and stress factors?

    I guess we’ll find out… I think it’s dopamine related, I mean low dopamine = high prolactin. Also that could effect our GAMMA and Serotonin. If we balance dopa it might change the Gamma and serotonin as well.

    #4192

    Joaquin

    I think theres a chance that if your body is wired for a stess response, which basically all of us are alot of the tyrosine may go down the NE pathway unfortuantly.

    I dont think its until you have put in place all the controls over NE ( serotonin, GABA, testosterone, cortisol, thyroid, along with reducing stress and ejacualtion) that your tyrosine will start takin more of the dopamine route. This is just theory oviosly but i guess it makes sense.

    i think right now when i take tyrosine its like 30/70 or so.

    #4193

    Gerry

    also iv been thinkin about this alot lately. I think even when someone is balanced in every hormonal and neurotransmitter aspect there still gona have work to do. i dont think that will automatically reverse our bodies tendency for sympathetic dominance. i definetly think it wil help prob like 85/ 90 percent but to fully restore proper functionin were probably gona have to really watch ejaculation and stress. and with time our bodies sould gradually start adapting to the new imputs and change their tendencies.

    #4195

    Wes

    I got this from Dr. Richards. I know he pulls his theories out of his ass.. but he was right about us having elevated Prostaglandin E2.. and he said that is what causes the hard flaccid. And then once he went into detail and he said that those with hard flaccid are in sympathetic mode (which we know), have elevated norepinephrine, and its the NE that gets converted into prostaglandin E2.

    And thats basically all he said.

    So IF hes right then it could make total sense – our problems started with adrenals. Adrenals pull thyroid function down a bit with them. Adrenals release high NE. NE gets converted into PGE2. and PGE2 is responsible for the high prolactin… which explains your low LH/FSH.

    ORR Richards could be totally wrong… IF we actually don’t have problems with adrenals.. and perhaps don’t have high NE… then perhaps we actually got that prolactinoma… maybe the problem originates by the hypothalamus producing too much prolactin… which then lowers adrenal function and dopamine and perhaps aggrevates prostaglandin E2.

    But I’m leaning more toward Richards theory… because there have been hundreds of cases of prolactinoma and nobody has ever reported hard flaccid… so that shows prolactin alone shouldn’t be responsible for such elevated PGE2 levels.

    By Richards theory NE is converted into it that’s why its so high. I don’t know about the ‘converted’ part.. sounds like he’s making it up… but I’m pretty sure our NE is high.

    F*ck I just realized the amino acid test I ordered won’t show NE. Only tyrosine.. so I guess I’ll have to assume my NE is high.

    And ya I’m only gonna start taking tyrosine when the 5-htp and gaba arrive. I think for the first week I’ll just be taking 5-htp and gaba… and then add in tyrosine like you did Js… just to see if there is actually a noticeable difference.

    What Chris explained to me briefly is that IF my adrenals are not in too bad shape THEN they will be able to handle the tyrosine and I will most likely experience benefit from it.. as it will supress prolactin and raise T giving a libido boost.

    But if adrenals and burnt out and can’t handle the tyrosine then its only gonna make me anxious and jittery and I should cut it out. He said start at 1 gram.. and work your way up to 3 if its a success.

    So hopefully it works out..

    O 1 more thing that doesnt really add up is that my old blood test results actually look a bit worse then Tech’s (TSH mainly), but prolactin was lower. So based on Richards theory the person with higher prolactin should have higher NE and therefore worse adrenal function and so worse thyroid. And that’s not really the case here.

    But w/e I;m getting new results this week. We’ll see.

    #4197

    Bradford

    I got this from Dr. Richards. I know he pulls his theories out of his ass.. but he was right about us having elevated Prostaglandin E2.. and he said that is what causes the hard flaccid. And then once he went into detail and he said that those with hard flaccid are in sympathetic mode (which we know), have elevated norepinephrine, and its the NE that gets converted into prostaglandin E2.

    And thats basically all he said.

    So IF hes right then it could make total sense – our problems started with adrenals. Adrenals pull thyroid function down a bit with them. Adrenals release high NE. NE gets converted into PGE2. and PGE2 is responsible for the high prolactin… which explains your low LH/FSH.

    ORR Richards could be totally wrong… IF we actually don’t have problems with adrenals.. and perhaps don’t have high NE… then perhaps we actually got that prolactinoma… maybe the problem originates by the hypothalamus producing too much prolactin… which then lowers adrenal function and dopamine and perhaps aggrevates prostaglandin E2.

    But I’m leaning more toward Richards theory… because there have been hundreds of cases of prolactinoma and nobody has ever reported hard flaccid… so that shows prolactin alone shouldn’t be responsible for such elevated PGE2 levels.

    By Richards theory NE is converted into it that’s why its so high. I don’t know about the ‘converted’ part.. sounds like he’s making it up… but I’m pretty sure our NE is high.

    F*ck I just realized the amino acid test I ordered won’t show NE. Only tyrosine.. so I guess I’ll have to assume my NE is high.

    And ya I’m only gonna start taking tyrosine when the 5-htp and gaba arrive. I think for the first week I’ll just be taking 5-htp and gaba… and then add in tyrosine like you did Js… just to see if there is actually a noticeable difference.

    What Chris explained to me briefly is that IF my adrenals are not in too bad shape THEN they will be able to handle the tyrosine and I will most likely experience benefit from it.. as it will supress prolactin and raise T giving a libido boost.

    But if adrenals and burnt out and can’t handle the tyrosine then its only gonna make me anxious and jittery and I should cut it out. He said start at 1 gram.. and work your way up to 3 if its a success.

    So hopefully it works out..

    O 1 more thing that doesnt really add up is that my old blood test results actually look a bit worse then Tech’s (TSH mainly), but prolactin was lower. So based on Richards theory the person with higher prolactin should have higher NE and therefore worse adrenal function and so worse thyroid. And that’s not really the case here.

    But w/e I;m getting new results this week. We’ll see.

    werd will have more results and theories to work off soon.

    Chris is right about the tyrosine if you have adrenal fatigue. YUHU told me the same thing. Also from personal experience My adrenals are ok but i feel like if they were 100 percent i would be gettin an even better boost.

    So 1 gram sould be good for you will see.

    #4199

    Hilario

    but if NE is the cause, taking tyrosine will only raise it, no?

    #4201

    Trent

    Ya its tricky if his NE is high then it may be better to just stick with 5htp and gaba derivatives. But at the same time he may want the dopamine boost.

    I think what frenchi said is smartest. Try the 5htp and GABA stuff and see whats up.

    then reavaluate in a week and think about addin the tyrosine. i think theres a good chance he can go without the tyrosine since i think his lack of libido is more due to the fact he has hard flacid and anxiety stemmin from it then an actual dopamine deficiency.

    #4203

    Brice

    Ya its tricky if his NE is high then it may be better to just stick with 5htp and gaba derivatives. But at the same time he may want the dopamine boost.

    I think what frenchi said is smartest. Try the 5htp and GABA stuff and see whats up.

    then reavaluate in a week and think about addin the tyrosine. i think theres a good chance he can go without the tyrosine since i think his lack of libido is more due to the fact he has hard flacid and anxiety stemmin from it then an actual dopamine deficiency.

    Ugh, I really need to get cortisol/E2/NE all tested, it would clear this shit up fast and see if the theory is correct.

    #4205

    Herschel

    It’s tricky the way it works. Some people have low dopamine and high NE, and taking tyrosine helps break this conversion and raises D while lowering NE. Others experience a spike of both.

    I guess we’ll try and find out. If I feel worse I’ll just cut it out and that’s it.

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