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  • #3843

    Tuan

    I wanted to share with you guys what I am going to do in the next months/s for kickstarting the Plan that I have already set up in my mind for my specific problems.

    -DIFLUCAN for candida. Dosage and time of treatment will be probably monitorized by Dr Mouton. If he refuses to do it, I will do it on my own. Im considering natural remedies too… probably much better.

    -METRODINAZOLE for protozoan parasites, clostridia etc. Same.

    -VSL-3. Incredible strong probiotic available in the pharmacies of my town. 450 billion alive beneficial bacteria. Using it two hours later each dose of metradinazole.

    -ParaGone for bigger parasites.

    -All the time hepatic support with LiverLife.

    -For two months or so probiotic daily support of 20 billion CFUs.

    This is gonna work. Im just waiting two weeks to discuss it with Mouton.

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    #3845

    Daron

    best of luck man looks good

    #3847

    Carmelo

    Difflucan can cause liver issue and when you stop yeast will come back with a vengence. So you are back to ground zero and worse off then before

    probiotic with antibiotic = failure seen it happen they cancel out each other..

    This is why you need to understand interactions and be under a good Dr’s care to avoid set backs. Taking this approach you will be doing Dr moutons approach and wasting your parents hard earned money

    One step forward 3 steps back mentality.

    #3849

    King

    Thats why I am waiting for him. I actually prefer to do this under the supervision of a real doctor. Im not the typical case of leaky gut. Im possibly a similar case to “poliglandular

    I am aware of Diflucan and liver. And also about the risks of antibiotics. I will very probably susbtitute it and metrodinazole by natural options. This is just a general guideline. Im not st00pid, hans.

    The aim of taking 450 billion two hours after the antibiotic is to kill everything at once (bad an good) and then only repoblate with good.

    In any case, certainty I prefer to do this by natural means. There are natural ways to fight bad bacteria in the gut. Which ones comes to your mind right now?

    #3851

    Everett

    Hi ,

    ”The aim of taking 450 billion two hours after the antibiotic is to kill everything at once (bad an good) and then only repoblate with good.”

    Do you have a link for this, as it’s something i’d be interested in adding to my daily arsenal.

    Thanks

    #3853

    Eric

    Sup lee? How are you doing man? Missed you here lol

    The probiotics. You are right! Gut flora is a great tool in recovery. HOWEVER, 450 billion is only for lets say replacement theraphy, a daily probiotic is somewhere between 5 and 30, and a therapeutical daily probiotic is around 60 billion CFUs.

    The VSL-3 its very expensive. Just google it, it costs almost the same in all places, around 80 $ for a month supply. I dont know the side effects of taking such a potent blend of flora daily, hans can help us in this question. I am lucky enough to get those in my city for 25 dollars.

    They carry a less potent probiotic of 110 billion per capsule. Its 52 $ per 2 months supply.

    At iHerb there are tons of good probiotics for daily use. I have an eye on Candida Balance, Culturelle etc…

    #3856

    Deangelo

    ”Sup lee? How are you doing man? Missed you here lol”

    Just living one day at a time right now. Taking my supps going for 1 hour walks in the morning, exercise 3 times per week and sticking to my almost completely paleo diet.

    oh and feeling pissed that it looks like i am going to lose yet another summer to this shit. Can’t believe it’s been a year since i was telling frenchi how pissed off i was about losing last summer.

    I’m better than 1 year ago though without doubt, not feeling confident enough to start dating again yet though. I feel to skinny, but i can’t lift enough to gain muscle because it’s detrimental to my weak adrenals.

    Not to mention i’ve still got the libido of a neutered dog….

    Yeah i do have a 30 billion probiotic (Healthy origins) lying around but never noticed anything from it when i gave it a try, so was thinking about trying something a bit stronger. I was taking it before bedtime too so it can multiply through the night. Maybe i’ll give it another try.

    How long do you take something as strong as VSL#3 for?

    #3857

    Deangelo

    Grapefruit seed Extract that comes to my mind

    but it have similarity to Difflucan, where it increases the liver enzymes in the long run

    http://www.fungusfocus.com/html/grapefruit_seed_extract_info.htm

    #3860

    Efrain

    Grapefruit seed Extract that comes to my mind

    but it have similarity to Difflucan, where it increases the liver enzymes in the long run

    http://www.fungusfocus.com/html/grapefruit_seed_extract_info.htm

    GSE its in the list. Probably for sporadic use in that case.

    #3863

    Wilmer

    , have you thought about seeing a naturalpathic or Eastern medicine i.e. acupuncture? A lot of times, if you boost your own body’s immune system, the disease will heal itself.

    I am on the same boat with some moderate success, but being addicted to sex is very hard to put out.

    #3865

    Reid

    I think HAN has a good point about them cancelling each other out. I don’t know too much about nutrition but that seems to make sense.

    Sargonnas,

    1. How do you know for a fact you have candida? did the doctor just tell you or you’re 100% sure? is your tongue white-ish? do you feel like shit after eating sweets or processed food?

    2. I remember your tests showed that you’re alergic to a lot of foods. Do you feel any different after eating them? do you crash or feel any different after eating inflammatory foods?

    I’m beginning to question if I have GI issues too. But I donno I don’t feel any different after eating sweets or processed food. I try to avoid processed food but when I’ll have some occational pizza or something I feel normal after, no crash on changes. After sweets I feel normal too. So I’m wondering if you guys actually feel different after eating inflammatory food.. cuz I don’t.. which is why I think I probably don’t have GI issue.

    #3866

    Timmy

    sargonas besides that I can’t comment much on your supplement list.. I dont know much about GI.. your doctor sounds like a good doc though, just follow his protocol see what happens.

    hey Lee,

    I’m also feelin bummed out about this summer . Feels like it really wasn’t long ago that we were talking about last summer..

    It’s ok tho I feel a lot better then last year too.. mentally at least.. I decided that since I can’t get laid this summer I’m just gonna do a lot of drugs hehe.

    seriously tho I’m gonna do a lot of shrooms, smoke a ton of pot, get a hold of some lsd, shisha, a lil booze.. that’ll keep me occupied and help numb the pain. I’ll try to go out fishing and camping and stuff too to have a normal summer without focusing on getting laid.

    hows the paleo diet lee? you feel any changes in energy levels or something? Is it worth sacrificing all those carbs for?

    In the past months I tried to keep my diet strict looking something like paleo but with grains. Now I;m being more careless and started eating a lot more dairy like I used to. I eat cereal in the morning sometimes stuff like that. and I don’t feel any different. Not one bit. Same energy levels, same libido (or lack of), hard flaccid roughly same.. so I donno.. makes me believe I dont have GI issues.. but I could still be wrong.

    #3870

    Danial

    Drugs probably isn’t something you want to do in our condition.

    #3872

    Joel

    Yes I finally saw your point. Glad that I have HANS around here commenting on my crazy ideas lol. No diflucan and even no natural antifungals or antibiotics for me. My plans change from one day to another but the basics stills there. Now I am aware that replacing good flora, normalising the inmune system and boosting my adrenal hormones to a reassonable degree is what I need to do in order to fix some, if not all of my problems. I got some more insights about this matter on curezone.

    Anyway, I dont think Mouton or any competent doctor would let me try that plan I had lol.

    #3873

    Booker

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    Lol, but keep in mind that drugs are bad and play with your neurochemistry a Deathmatch. I wasnt that long ago when you were posting that maybe was drug consumption a part of the things that lead you to this state.

    #3875

    Leigh

    Thanks for you concern, , I already figured out the protocol was an insanity.

    #3877

    Antonia

    stick0

    Acunpture sucks and the only time I tried it fucked up my wrist. F*ck that naturoquackery

    You are right about inmune system though! Very right indeed.

    I am already in the hands of Mouton and another very good “alternative” doctor here in my city.

    Im doing colon hidrotherapy LOL first time yesterday. What a experience

    BTW GUYS TODAY IM GONNA START TAKING THE VSL-3!!!! FUCKING DIE OFF HERE WE GO, IM READY FOR YOU!

    #3878

    Mervin

    1. I have a pretty fucked up “leaky gut” case. Excessive permeability in the intestines is always caused by candida, parasites, dysbiosis or even a combination of all. My tongue is whiteish and has a “leprosity” apperance overall with irregularities and lately yellow spots. Not healthy. Im brushing my teeth every night. I have problems with sugar but that can be easily related to the lack of glucosteroids. I was addicted to cereals, milk and “tasty” food which was most of the time very unhealthy. The most candida related symptom I have is hangovers at morning. I also have a white flour in some parts of the body and eczema or dermatitis in nose and part of the forehead.

    2. Chicken makes my eczema multiply for 2x or so and it itches like HELL. It also makes my stomach hurt in a medium potency. I guess that things like milk or gluten makes me more suicidal or depressed but the effects are normally not in the same day. In my new diet im a different person. I mean you all know the old , I was whining and writing about suicide very often and now im like more focused and calmed. Im still very depressed and anhedonic but at least now anxiety and crazyness seems to be in check. They say that when you have leaky gut most of your allergies will last days to show their effects. That means you eat bread monday and at thursday you feel very down etc.

    I didnt feel that different from most of foods as far as I can remember (my diet is VERY restricted since some time) Normally eating a cheap donut would make me feel a bit bad, thats all. I think this is in part why the shit built up in me over the years, it was kinda a silent killer. I used to only have occasional gas and bloating. But my current symptoms and the tests are clear in the diagnosis. You should check this stuff out, digestive system its crucial, along with inmune, liver etc.

    #3880

    Simon

    Do not try to second guess the help you are paying for. When people come to health professional for help they give them some recommedation . Then they go read on line about this and that add their own twist to it. Come back screaming I feel like shit then they slip up telling you they are going out side ones recommendation. You just want to kick them LOL

    #3882

    Vito

    Haha dont worry im keeping Mouton posted with everything, I dont want to be alone in this. He disagreed in using Diflucan and now has agreed in using VSL-3.

    #3884

    Jamar

    Ask him about biosporin It may be a better approach..

    Very few Dr’s know about it and has clinical studies backing which are published. Like I said I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve.

    I use it a lot in specific cases once Dysbiosis is identified and particular organisms

    #3885

    Bob

    That Biosporin is intrigating. What is cyclosporine and why could it be beneficial in dysbiosis?

    #3887

    Quinn

    One of the best drugs come from europe to close gap junctions for leaky guy surprise he does not know about it. I used it back in the day for bodybuilding to burn fat LOL

    #3889

    Tobias

    I will add it to the page of question I have been confectioning for the day of the appointment. Its interesting because it seems to help in autoinmune states.

    #3891

    Ahmed

    ,

    Thanks for the links. The innate response 50 billion one looks good, i may try it some time just out of interest, to see if it does anything.

    Frenchi,

    ”seriously tho I’m gonna do a lot of shrooms, smoke a ton of pot, get a hold of some lsd, shisha, a lil booze.. that’ll keep me occupied and help numb the pain. I’ll try to go out fishing and camping and stuff too to have a normal summer without focusing on getting laid.”

    Sounds like fun, but i’m not sure if the drugs are going to be to helpful for your recovery lol Go to pubmed and type in cannabis Testosterone or w/e they’ve done a few studies on it. Magic mushrooms and LSD i wouldn’t personally take for fear of sawing my own dick off or something lol. Last time i took LSD i was running around the streets in the middle of the night thinking somebody was chasing me for about 30 mins, before i realised i was running away from my own shadow.lol

    The problem i have with being sociable is that all my friends just talk about nothing but getting smashed and sex, so i just don’t fit in with them anymore. This has changed me to much, TBH i don’t even really like most of them anymore anyway, since iv’e had some distance from them i see them for the arrogant mofo’s they are.

    For me this summer i’ll be just carrying on doing what im doing i suppose. Thank god for Xbox that’s all i can say…

    ”hows the paleo diet lee? you feel any changes in energy levels or something? Is it worth sacrificing all those carbs for?”

    Not really noticed anything from it TBH energy or otherwise. I don’t avoid carbs altogether though as i can’t eat a cooked sunday roast type meal without roast potatoes, that just wouldn’t be right. There’s different types of paleo diet anyway and some say potatoes are ok.

    Did you buy that superfood supp from iherb we were talking about a while back? I’m still using it and think it’s helping. I use it first thing in the morn and mix it with 4g organic Spirulina, 4 g chlorella 3g Maca gold and i also add 1 capsule of Jarrow Rhodiola which i just open up and pour in. I’ve also started using a new multi-vit which i recommend, although your already taking Methylcobalamin at high doses so it’s probably not for you. Your supposed to take 3 tabs per day but when i do i start to feel a bit sick (detox maybe) so i just take 2.

    I’ve also been making my own Liposomal Encapsulated vit c. Using Sunflower Lecithin, Sodium Ascorbate and an ultrasonic cleaner. Which is good stuff. Google it and if you want to try it yourself i’ll tell you exactly how to make it just right.

    http://is.gd/ejrhij <Superfood

    http://is.gd/TqL3Sq

    http://is.gd/PObuqe

    http://is.gd/dMioo7

    http://is.gd/1ssf1o

    http://is.gd/AFAEtf < Muti-Vit

    #3893

    Bobby

    I will add it to the page of question I have been confectioning for the day of the appointment. Its interesting because it seems to help in autoinmune states.

    Biosporin has been used in dysbiosis sepsis LOL Stuff people die from and is validated by medical case studies..

    #3894

    Alex

    Quote:

    I feel sooo identified

    #3896

    Dillon

    Took the VSL-3 yesterday. Felt weird the whole evening.

    Side effects I have noticed: slept only 7 hours (which is NOT enough for me and I have awful bags in the eyes now) and lower back pain in the right side (kidney?).

    I love being my own Guinea Pig!!

    #3898

    Taylor

    BTW lee, one of the best probiotics I have seen its PRIMAL DEFENSE, but I ignored it for a while because some bastard used scare tacticts in various forums about it creating some kind of disease, but that its obviously about money and companies…

    Im also very interested in Symbiotics Colostrum. GEEEEEEEEZ if it was for ME I would be eating manuka honey from the most expensive company, all the superfoods and “miracle” supplements that exists, and I would buy a COW to get the fresh colostrum myself in my house lol

    #3900

    Derick

    Hey HANS, I stumbled across today in my bacillus research with some studies on BIOSPORIN. It seems like Bacillus Subtilis and Licheniformis are highly efective against pathogenic bacteria and even candida. There is even some anectdotal feedback about Subtilis being very effective against candida in forums like Curezone. Really a remarkable option. I got confused because here in Spain theres another product called Biosporin but its not the bacilli preparation. So, thanks, I will discuss this with my new doctor. I would take it even if my problem are more candida/parasites than dysbiosis. But I am not sure if we can get it here…

    So maybe PRIMAL DEFENSE can be an alternative, although im not sure if it contains Licheniformis… What do you think?

    I will add Saccharomyces Boulardii, Bacillus Coagulans, Bacillus Laterosporus and Lactobacillus GG probably also when I can, they have promising properties and studies for leaky gut, candida, inmunomodulating and boosting the inmune system etc

    #3902

    Morgan

    http://aem.asm.org/content/55/12/3143.short

    Im gonna go on chelation and detox soon, with this doctor. IV chelation plus my own ideas. Supporting kidneys and liver in all the progress. I need to get a place to do the sauna also. Obviously you cant really aim to cure GI tract etc permanently with the toxic substances that originated the problem in the first place still in your body.Anyway, the plan for healing gut its very solid and clear now. And overall everything its pretty clear for me. Just some tests more and we will put the picture together.

    Abstaining from masturbation and seeing gains in libido already.

    #3904

    Dwain

    If doing IV chelation you better leave your own ideas out of.it because your messing with a whole other monster when it comes to this. Screw up with hormone you will.not die from messing with chelation you could go puff in no.time at all..

    #3906

    Lonny

    That’s how you know it is working.

    Do you find you have more energy?

    Good luck!

    #3908

    Enoch

    thanks for the link lee.

    I almost forgot about the superfood supp

    #3909

    Lynn

    That’s how you know it is working.

    Do you find you have more energy?

    Good luck!

    I dont know exactly about energy but theres a problem with abstaining. Now I have wet dreams, in which sometimes I ejaculate and sometimes I dont, but they mess with abstaining a lot… I dont know how to control my oniric subconscious… which seems to have MUCH more libido than the conscious one lol

    #3912

    Lynn

    Hmm I was referring to hepatic and renal support, maybe methylation as well. And to the fact that since I have Internet I have access to a lot of info in things like AC chelation etc so in the future I can take ALA for the brain metals etc So im pretty informed about the issue and will inform myself further. Chelation its not a game.

    I will not take something that can interfere with the IV chelation, because yes it sounds powerful.

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