ZRT testing

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  • #2901

    Lowell

    who here has got a blood test from ZRT?

    i heard salvia can be not accurate.

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    #2903

    Ahmad

    i thought about that, but then i discovered they actually sell these test kits here in NZ. so i’m getting mine from here. saliva is a more sensitive test. and for things like sub-clinical adrenal insufficiency, or adrenal fatigue, and some specific hormones most blood tests don’t give an accurate picture.

    #2905

    Quincy

    Max

    I have used both ZRT blood and saliva tests.

    http://rapidshare.com/files/12477891/ZRT_LAB.PDF.html

    http://rapidshare.com/files/12478081/ZRT_LAB2.PDF.html

    Mine came back just as expected. I have all the symptoms of high cortisol and the test shows my cortisol is high.

    For what I have read, saliva test are more accurate and sensitive. They are measuring what is being released at a tissue level, which is what

    #2907

    Reggie

    There seems to be quite a range depending on labs. ZRT shows my morning cortisol is high every time (6 times). And I have the symptoms to go along with chronically high cortisol….muscle wasting at extremities, anxiety, panic attacks, connective tissue damage.

    But I tried another lab in the US just to compare and I was right in the middle of the normal range.

    #2909

    Bradley

    i should be geting my labs results back anyday now, my cortisol is probably high since i get anxiety, nervous, minor panic attacks.

    #2911

    Jc

    Max

    Great…I was hoping someone else would get tested. did you use ZRT? It would help us understand the problem a little better if a few of us came back with high cortisol.

    My cortisol is high every time. And the last time I got a blood spot test from ZRT and my testosterone was 308 ng/dL [400-1200 is the range].

    I also got LH and FSH done. LH=1.2 [1.0-8.4]. FSH=2.6 [1.0-10.5]

    So my chronically high cortisol seems to be instructing my body to stop producing LH and therefore Testosterone.

    To save money, the next time I get a ZRT test, I’m jsut going to get morning cortisol, LH, FSH and blood spot testosterone.

    #2913

    Toby

    what time of day did you test your Total testosterone? that seems low for the range.

    im getting these from ZRT

    · Estradiol

    · Progesterone

    · Free and Total Testosterone

    · DHEA

    · Cortisol

    · Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH)

    · Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH)

    · Luteinizing Hormone (LH)

    i should have my results tommorow or tuesday, but i wont have my LH,FSH until next week

    #2915

    Darius

    frank you should test your thyroid to make sure thats good and not causing problems for you too

    #2917

    Hugo

    Max

    I did. It was OK.

    #2919

    Mack

    Frank, have you considered some medication to lower your cortisol levels?

    #2921

    Alfonzo

    I am going to try Ashaganda, Rhodiola Rosea and Panex Ginseng first.

    As an absolute last resort I might try a drug. But I would rather try all natural methods first. Drugs usually have more serious side affects than herbs.

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00422201;jsessionid=48C6A63DEB7B62B1ECBEA4ADEEC4D82D?order=2

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    Plus, the high cortisol doesn’t show up on a standard blood test. It only shows up on the saliva test. So as far as my doctor is concerned, my cortisol levels are within the “normal” range and there is nothing wrong with me.

    #2923

    Mel

    i think salvia testing cortisol is more accurate.

    #2925

    Ambrose

    I would also consider Phosphatidylserine (PS) and Bacopa. PS is very effective at lowering cortisol but you would need high dosages- at least that was my experience. I’m going to talk about those two because they almost dropped my cortisol too low and I started having joint pains.

    good stuff to add on training days in addition to the other things I’m taking.

    #2927

    Lupe

    The funny thing is that I always have a high morning cortisol, but I often have a low cortisol in the afternoon & evening. I have joint pain as well.

    PS is very expensive, especially if you want to avoid additives. Which is why I am going to try good high quality adaptogens.

    #2929

    Jae

    The funny thing is that I always have a high morning cortisol, but I often have a low cortisol in the afternoon & evening. I have joint pain as well.

    PS is very expensive, especially if you want to avoid additives. Which is why I am going to try good high quality adaptogens.

    I thought your cortisol should be highest in the morning and lowest in the evening.

    I got my PS from http://www.bulknutrition.com, compared to other bulk agents it is expensive no doubt about it. You can also try starting with Isocort. some members who had adrenal fatigue on another board used Isocort with good results and then switched to Cortef for a period of time.

    #2930

    Rafael

    Yes..it is supposed to drop throughout the day. So the “normal” range drops throughout the day (8:00am, noon, 4:00pm 8:00pm)

    But I’m often above the morning range and below the later ranges. For example, here is a test from last summer

    8:00am = 12.7 [3-8]

    noon = 1.8 [2-4]

    4:00pm = 0.9 [1-2]

    8pm = 0.4 [0.5-1.5]

    Granted, I’m not low by much, but I am low.

    #2931

    Harlan

    Yes..it is supposed to drop throughout the day. So the “normal” range drops throughout the day (8:00am, noon, 4:00pm 8:00pm)

    But I’m often above the morning range and below the later ranges. For example, here is a test from last summer

    8:00am = 12.7 [3-8]

    noon = 1.8 [2-4]

    4:00pm = 0.9 [1-2]

    8pm = 0.4 [0.5-1.5]

    Granted, I’m not low by much, but I am low.

    you don’t seem that far off though. looks like its minor . I understand that if morning cortisol levels are low then it would indicate marginal HPA performance. This is my saliva test from 6 weeks ago:

    8am 9 depressed [13-24]

    12pm 8 normal [5-10]

    5pm 5 normal [3-8]

    8pm 2 normal [1-4]

    I’ve been supplementing with licorcie root right before bedtime so I’m going to get this tested again and hopefully see some improvements.

    #2932

    Valentin

    Interesting. Definately an adrenal component.

    #2933

    Ivan

    let us know the results!

    #2934

    Norman

    , do your ejaculations look normal (pearl white, good volume, etc) ?

    also are you getting any night/morning erections?

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